718 Engine Poll

[Mario149]

To see who likes the idea (or not) of the new Turbo Flat 4 in the 718. Thought it'd be interesting to split it by previous owners and people who've never had one to see if there's any difference.

[Trev450]

Four cylinder turbo engines have their place, just not in prestige sports cars. Multi cylindered, N/A for me every time.

[Broda]

I was buying a 2015 v8 mustang over a 991 C2, now it looks like I'm going to buy the 718 Coupe S

[LeighB]

The flat 6 sound is the essence of Porsche cars for me. And for that reason, I'm oooot.

[jayxx83]

I'll reserve judgement until I drive one.

Defo a nice daily proposition imo. I personally wouldn't buy one as I prefer sports cars for weekends. At least with a daily you can dump it any where. Sports cars should look pristine and be driven hard imo

[Jonny08]

jayxx83 said:

I'll reserve judgement until I drive one.

+1

Shame, it's not an option on the poll

[Hard-Drive]

Jonny08 said:

jayxx83 said:

I'll reserve judgement until I drive one.

+1

Shame, it's not an option on the poll

y

+2, what a totally meaningless poll!

[Mario149]

Hard-Drive said:

+2, what a totally meaningless poll!

Stop being pedantic! If someone asked you which you would prefer, a 918 or a LaFerrari you'd have an answer despite the rather slim chance you'd get to drive either yourself to make a "real" decision.

[bcr5784]

Hard-Drive said:

+2, what a totally meaningless poll!

+3 - it tells you how many have preconceived views, so not totally meaningless. That said I very much doubt that PH posters are typical of Porsche buyers. And it does suggest that the yes/wait and see posters are rather less vocal than the nay sayers.

[DS240]

Mario149 said:

Hard-Drive said:

+2, what a totally meaningless poll!

Stop being pedantic! If someone asked you which you would prefer, a 918 or a LaFerrari you'd have an answer despite the rather slim chance you'd get to drive either yourself to make a "real" decision.

Agree. It's not a life and decision you're being asked to make. It's just gathering an early opinion about the new direction of the 718. I can tell you now, I have absolutely no interest in swapping my 987 Spyder for a 718. The 718 is just not what I want from a prestige sports car purchase.

[coccodrillo]

Porsche's latest generation of sports cars just not doing it for me I'm sorry to say. Four cylinders, nothing without a turbo and styling that seems to get more and more "fussy".

My next car will still be a Porsche but I won't be troubling the order books of my local OPC for the foreseeable future.

[johnnyhar]

I'm sure they will get glowing reviews but I'm not interested in swapping my 987 Spyder at all. Each new generation of Porsche cars seem to have more capability but less soul...shame.

[Hard-Drive]

DS240 said:

Mario149 said:

Hard-Drive said:

+2, what a totally meaningless poll!

Stop being pedantic! If someone asked you which you would prefer, a 918 or a LaFerrari you'd have an answer despite the rather slim chance you'd get to drive either yourself to make a "real" decision.

Agree. It's not a life and decision you're being asked to make. It's just gathering an early opinion about the new direction of the 718. I can tell you now, I have absolutely no interest in swapping my 987 Spyder for a 718. The 718 is just not what I want from a prestige sports car purchase.

I'm not being pedantic. I already said on the other thread, I drive an old 986 and I don't have 50 large to go and drop on a new 2 seat roadster. However if I did, and the 718 drove and performed as well as the figures suggest, I'd probably buy one, as at the end of the day I'm a Porsche fan.

Yes I'd lament the loss of that growl to howl every time I really buried the throttle, and no doubt that lovely induction roar from a de-snorked car too. But I'm very unlikely to get the hump so much with Porsche that I go and buy a BMW instead.

[Jonny08]

DS240 said:

Agree. It's not a life and decision you're being asked to make. It's just gathering an early opinion about the new direction of the 718. I can tell you now, I have absolutely no interest in swapping my 987 Spyder for a 718. The 718 is just not what I want from a prestige sports car purchase.

I currently own a 981 Cayman S and it is my first Porsche - if I were to answer the poll right now it would be "I've had a Cayster: Would not buy a 718 T F4" but based on what? It would be all of the feedback I've read on here and other forums, from the more experienced Porsche owners, which I respect and do agree with.

I do like the look of the new Boxster, and suspect the Cayman will look much the same. Would I let the fact that it no longer has a naturally aspirated engine stop me from buying? who knows, I will reserve judgement on that. It's all about the whole package for me - styling, handling, sound etc. I'm not going to be so naive and say "nope, from what I've read it's na or nothing, not even going to consider it".

And personally, I do not think it's a meaningless poll, just didn't have to 'cop-out' option for me

Edited by Jonny08 on Sunday 31st January 13:04

[Fezzaman]

Hard-Drive said:

Yes I'd lament the loss of that growl to howl every time I really buried the throttle, and no doubt that lovely induction roar from a de-snorked car too. But I'm very unlikely to get the hump so much with Porsche that I go and buy a BMW instead.

I think this is a very very good point. For those looking to replace their 98x Caysters, if the 718 powertrain is a deal breaker, what are your other choices? Are you going to get a TT? Z4? SLK? Even Merc have dropped the n/a V8 from the SLK55 for a turbo V6 in the facelift SLC43 I think. At least Merc were practically apologetic for that and dropped the price of the AMG to reflect the downsizing. Jag F-Type is the only one I can think of. As someone who's not owned a Cayster I'd rather buy/own the old 6 pot than the 4 pot, but much as people lamented the move from air to water cooled it's not like you've got a choice of the 'old' tech if you want a new car do you?

[Twinfan]

Fezzaman said:

For those looking to replace their 98x Caysters, if the 718 powertrain is a deal breaker, what are your other choices?

New? I'd have to try and find the cash for a 911, at least it's a 6-pot. Or I'd look at a Used Approved 911 with an NA engine.

[bcr5784]

Trouble with any public survey is that the exact wording is important - and easy to get wrong (or give an unclear/misleading answer). If the question had been would you "consider" buying a 718 then the answers would have been different.

Edited by bcr5784 on Sunday 31st January 15:35

[Mario149]

bcr5784 said:

Trouble with any public survey is that the exact wording is important - and easy to get wrong (or give an unclear/misleading answer). If the question had been would you "consider" buying a 718 then the answers would have been different.

Edited by bcr5784 on Sunday 31st January 15:35

How dare you! All PH polls are scrupulously accurate and clearly reflect perfectly on the topic being discussed Especially when I do them !

[J-P]

Fezzaman said:

Hard-Drive said:

Yes I'd lament the loss of that growl to howl every time I really buried the throttle, and no doubt that lovely induction roar from a de-snorked car too. But I'm very unlikely to get the hump so much with Porsche that I go and buy a BMW instead.

I think this is a very very good point. For those looking to replace their 98x Caysters, if the 718 powertrain is a deal breaker, what are your other choices? Are you going to get a TT? Z4? SLK? Even Merc have dropped the n/a V8 from the SLK55 for a turbo V6 in the facelift SLC43 I think. At least Merc were practically apologetic for that and dropped the price of the AMG to reflect the downsizing. Jag F-Type is the only one I can think of. As someone who's not owned a Cayster I'd rather buy/own the old 6 pot than the 4 pot, but much as people lamented the move from air to water cooled it's not like you've got a choice of the 'old' tech if you want a new car do you?

I think you'd just keep your current car. If you had to have a new toy and wanted something track friendly, then you could do worse than the new Lotus Exige Sport 350?

[bcr5784]

Mario149 said:

How dare you! All PH polls are scrupulously accurate and clearly reflect perfectly on the topic being discussed Especially when I do them !

Nonsense! - when the possible answers prevent me swaying the outcome!

Seriously though, I suspect there is a significant difference of opinion between those who are Porsche afficionados - and are probably more attached to the NA 6 and capricious tarts (like me) who have no particular affection for Porsches (nor emotional attachment to the NA 6) - but have just chosen one because it happened (imo) to be the best car of its type at the time I was buying.

(If I'm being a bit more analytical it's probably unfair to refer to myself as a capricious tart - it's more that I have been jilted by Lotus and am on the rebound)