help iv ballsed up my 7 series

help iv ballsed up my 7 series

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CSLmarson

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212 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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hello all

for you that dont know me im a complete penis,

i had a slight oil leak on my 2010 730d so took it to my local grease monkey and he said it looked like it was coming from the filter housing that bolted onto the block, a bit of research later and i was ready to do the swap,

long story short after may F*ck filled hours i got it all beck together and topped back up with oil and coolant,

Fired her up and all seemed well for a few seconds gave a few light revs and hay-presto oil pissing out of the bottom !!

Looking at it the gasket has obviously not gone on flat and I have sodded it up.

i cant be bothered to attempt it again as im still sulking from the first go,

My question is how do i get it into neutral without starting the engine ????

its currently stuck in my unit so need to get it out to send of to bmw or the local garage,

2010 730d N57 block

robinessex

11,072 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Start engine. Put into neutral. Turn engine off. Take about 10 seconds I should think. But why? Isn't it an auto ?

Monkeylegend

26,471 posts

232 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Will it not just knock in with the ignition on but the engine not running.

Mine won't let me start the engine unless it is in park or neutral, but I can put it in neutral with the engine off.

jayemm89

4,046 posts

131 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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On my six series I am pretty sure you could change the gear with the engine off. Ignition must be on and foot must be on brake. Easy to forget that one if you're used to manuals

Calza

1,995 posts

116 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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jayemm89 said:
On my six series I am pretty sure you could change the gear with the engine off. Ignition must be on and foot must be on brake. Easy to forget that one if you're used to manuals
Every auto I've experienced has done this too.

I'm sure if you slipped the mechanic a few quid extra he'd refit the filter in situ to save you towing it!

IanCress

4,409 posts

167 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Sounds like an ideal job for a mobile mechanic. You'll end up paying twice the cost just to get it towed.

Matt UK

17,738 posts

201 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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IanCress said:
Sounds like an ideal job for a mobile mechanic. You'll end up paying twice the cost just to get it towed.
Agreed

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Calza said:
jayemm89 said:
On my six series I am pretty sure you could change the gear with the engine off. Ignition must be on and foot must be on brake. Easy to forget that one if you're used to manuals
Every auto I've experienced has done this too.

I'm sure if you slipped the mechanic a few quid extra he'd refit the filter in situ to save you towing it!
Autos stay in Neutral when the engine is off as they need line pressure to hold the clutches closed. If the car is in park you should be able to pull out the park pawl with engine off, no issue...


sun.and.rain

1,649 posts

140 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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I'm confused. Why can't you start the engine, take it out of P and put it into N, then switch off the ignition?

CSLmarson

Original Poster:

212 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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i cant start the engine because theres no oil in it

i did try getting it into nutral using all the above methods but no joy,

iv heard there is a special key to unlock the transmition

RichPu

25 posts

176 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Hi I had this once on my 7
have a look at this youtube link. it explains how you do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hqLxeNEwyU
hope this helps

Regards,
RichPu

jayemm89

4,046 posts

131 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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CSLmarson said:
i cant start the engine because theres no oil in it

i did try getting it into nutral using all the above methods but no joy,

iv heard there is a special key to unlock the transmition
I think what others are implying is if you start the car and turn it off very quickly, then no damage should be done. There will still be "some" oil in there. Running it a couple of seconds won't kill it. Don't take my word as gospel though.

eltax91

9,895 posts

207 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Mobile mechanic. Or call the usual garage if he's friendly and he'll probably do it in situ rather than tow

derin100

5,214 posts

244 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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jayemm89 said:
CSLmarson said:
i cant start the engine because theres no oil in it

i did try getting it into nutral using all the above methods but no joy,

iv heard there is a special key to unlock the transmition
I think what others are implying is if you start the car and turn it off very quickly, then no damage should be done. There will still be "some" oil in there. Running it a couple of seconds won't kill it. Don't take my word as gospel though.
I agree. Coincidently I happened to watch this old 5th Gear video yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE5fcdBf9Q

Admittedly, they drove it to destruction but it did take ages for that to happen. Just switching on very briefly (i.e a couple of seconds) to get it into neutral probably won't harm it as by draining the oil in the sump won't mean all the oil currently still between any moving surfaces has been completely removed.
(not that I'm taking any actual responsibility laugh)

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Don't start it without oil. Even if you did its worth noting that it will almost certainly not give your key back until its put back into park.

As linked above there's pull release to get it out of park. The old methods mentioned above work on older cars but most modern stuff requires some sort of manual release, usually in the most awkward places imaginable, but it doesn't look too bad on the E65.

CSLmarson

Original Poster:

212 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Cheers all

The Vidieo is for an E65 mine is a F01

Would it be the same ??

Also I'm not going to start it without oil or it might lunch the engine !

V8LM

5,174 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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F02 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLXDVPpj8w

Maybe the same with yours. Is there nothing in the manual?

deebow

113 posts

178 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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in the f01 730d to put it in neutral manually you've got to remove the plastic underbody panels that cover the gearbox housing. once removed youll see a scew. simply screw it in and this puts in in neutral. reason I know is had to do it on my 730d and its a bit of a headache for a job that was easily done on the old bmw by having a level underneath the gearstick

400SE Dave

1,296 posts

172 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Fill the oil again and then do the quick switch on and off thing?