England Test Cricket Thread - Summer 2016
Discussion
silverthorn2151 said:
Why was one of the umpires this evening holding a transparent model of the starship enterprise?
Most enjoyable game.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3...Most enjoyable game.
Daily Mail in useful story shocker.
A thoroughly enjoyable day yesterday - when they went off i thought that might be it but in the end to see 84 overs was a real pleasant surprise. I couldn't understand why the England total was higher than the Sri Lankan one. Was it effectively an application of the Duckworth Lewis rule "compensating" Sri Lanka for the fact that they started out thinking they had 50 overs but only had 42 (notwithstanding that they knew they had 42 for most of the innings?)?
England were on 305 so effectively tied score, then Butter hit a 4 so 309 to win the match.
I heard some argument criticising D/L that England's target should have been higher with suggestions of 320. But then SL knew for ~60% of their innings that they only had 42 overs, plus they were talking about a reduced overs match before the toss due to forecast.
I heard some argument criticising D/L that England's target should have been higher with suggestions of 320. But then SL knew for ~60% of their innings that they only had 42 overs, plus they were talking about a reduced overs match before the toss due to forecast.
BlackLabel said:
The test series vs Pakistan should be very interesting. As always Pakistan come over with a more than handy bowling attack. Not sure about their batting though as two 40+ year olds are the mainstay of their lineup.
Batting has always been main concern. Looking forward to Yasir Shah bowling.Sump said:
Still amazed at the ridiculousness of Amir coming back to International cricket.
He was 17. Ever worked with someone fresh out of school, you can get them to do anything. The others were adults and deserved life bans, but to ban a child for life after being led by adults is wrong. He's served his time.Sorry to go against the trend here but I think Boycs has this issue in perspective.
Geoffrey Boycott said:
Some may feel that Mohammad Amir should have been banned for life and never allowed to play cricket again. It is an understandable emotional response to the spot-fixing scandal of 2010. What he did was wrong, he cheated and damaged the integrity of cricket.
At the time, many of us felt hurt and betrayed. His crime was dealt with by the International Cricket Council and our justice system.
The ICC suspended him from cricket for five years and one of our own English judges sent him to jail for six months. The judge had to take emotion out of his decision. Amir did not commit murder or manslaughter or grievous bodily harm. He did not physically hurt anyone. He was guilty of corruption in a cricket match. There was consideration of his young age, 18, and the fact that his captain told him to do it.
All of us who have played cricket are taught from an early age to follow the captain’s instructions. It is an unwritten rule that you must obey your captain at all times. The penalty for defiance or refusing an order could be not being selected again or the sack. It would be very difficult for a young Pakistani boy, uneducated, at the start of his international career, to disobey his captain.
Alastair Cook said Amir would get some stick from the England supporters. Why should he? What he did was wrong and he has served a jail sentence. Now move on. If you believe in the rule of law and giving people a second chance then Amir should be allowed to play cricket and lead a normal life.
Cricket supporters should not go on punishing him for ever. Let us not have any ugly comments at Lord’s from England supporters and particularly, if by chance, he bowls a no ball.
Remember, that happens to every bowler and is not always part of spot-fixing. It just happens. We all need to get over it and give Amir a break by treating him decently.
Lord’s was the scene of his offence in 2010. Now it is a chance for his rehabilitation.
Sorry, just seen spikeyhead's comments in similar vein.At the time, many of us felt hurt and betrayed. His crime was dealt with by the International Cricket Council and our justice system.
The ICC suspended him from cricket for five years and one of our own English judges sent him to jail for six months. The judge had to take emotion out of his decision. Amir did not commit murder or manslaughter or grievous bodily harm. He did not physically hurt anyone. He was guilty of corruption in a cricket match. There was consideration of his young age, 18, and the fact that his captain told him to do it.
All of us who have played cricket are taught from an early age to follow the captain’s instructions. It is an unwritten rule that you must obey your captain at all times. The penalty for defiance or refusing an order could be not being selected again or the sack. It would be very difficult for a young Pakistani boy, uneducated, at the start of his international career, to disobey his captain.
Alastair Cook said Amir would get some stick from the England supporters. Why should he? What he did was wrong and he has served a jail sentence. Now move on. If you believe in the rule of law and giving people a second chance then Amir should be allowed to play cricket and lead a normal life.
Cricket supporters should not go on punishing him for ever. Let us not have any ugly comments at Lord’s from England supporters and particularly, if by chance, he bowls a no ball.
Remember, that happens to every bowler and is not always part of spot-fixing. It just happens. We all need to get over it and give Amir a break by treating him decently.
Lord’s was the scene of his offence in 2010. Now it is a chance for his rehabilitation.
I'm okay with Amir returning but Salman Butt should not be anywhere near an international side again. He should have been banned for much longer than he was.
On that note Mazhar Majeed, the agent who was at the centre of the 2010 fixing scandal, was jailed for almost 3 years a few months ago (for tax fraud). How sad, what a shame.
http://m.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/cricket-fixer-maz...
On that note Mazhar Majeed, the agent who was at the centre of the 2010 fixing scandal, was jailed for almost 3 years a few months ago (for tax fraud). How sad, what a shame.
http://m.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/cricket-fixer-maz...
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