English cricket - winter 2016/2017.

English cricket - winter 2016/2017.

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Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Been listening on TMS since start of series

Hameed has got 2 fifties, once when injured, got run out, got out to a ball the pitch did him without him playing a bad shot. Really good introduction to test mast cricket. In a place not ideal for big runs.

The unfortunate things that have happened might be good in the long run to stop him getting too far too soon mentally.

As for the other guys, some good play at time but we lose it. The skill is there but not the overall mental game plan.


Smollet

10,534 posts

190 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Challo said:
Gargamel said:
Yes lurching from bad to worse.

I think a number of people predicted a series loss - would be crazy to think differently - India are ranked number one, and at home with limited experience of the subcontinent in the England side, this was always going to be tough.

But we should be winning sessions and even days. At the moment we are making simple errors, Cook dropping sitters at slip, Moeen batting without a brain, Stokes can't seem to deliver when we really need it, and too few reliable players.

At the moment only Root and YJB seem to have a batting plan, and Cook despite his ugly 130 looks frankly a little lost, both in the captain role and certainly as a man to wear down the bowling.

Spinners are trying hard, but just can't frighten the India players, too little guile and too many "loose" balls - pitching short is about the worst crime for a spinner, and its clearly frightening for our close fielders.

Just doesn't seem to be any resilience about the team, and for that you have to look at Cook.
Looking like a bit of a shambles to be honest. The squad looks odd with Batty playing instead of Ansari and offered little. Ballance is the dedicated batsman as cover, but we play butler instead?

Cook potentially should be looked to be replaced a skipper. I still think he can offer with the bat, but limited idea's in the field and we really should start blooding Root as Skipper.

The schedule is a joke to try and cram all these tests into a short space of time.
I thought Ansari was crocked but turned up in the nets every day

dav123a

1,220 posts

159 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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2 replacements called up Dawson , not much of a wicket taker but equally the selectors don't have much choice. Jennings who scored a lot of runs is a saffa so will see how he gets on hopefully him and Hammed can fit in the team.

Cheib

23,215 posts

175 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Not batted well as a team consistently for quite some time...i.e. for more than an innings or two at a time.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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So this Jennings fellow. Like the cut of his jib, always a talent to get dropped early on. Dashed if I can place his accent though.... Surrey or Middlesex? scratchchin

Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Durham Lad isn't he ? Mother from Sunderland etc

smile

Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Century on Debut too. Good Stuff. I await comparisons to Boycott, Hutton and Botham from the the press.


ralphrj

3,523 posts

191 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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hornetrider said:
So this Jennings fellow. Like the cut of his jib, always a talent to get dropped early on. Dashed if I can place his accent though.... Surrey or Middlesex? scratchchin
East London, I think. wink

Smollet

10,534 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Classic case of one gets you two. Ashwin is unplayable. If we can get to 350 and our spinners do a good job I think we can win this.

Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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The collapse is on..


hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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Smollet said:
If we can get to 350 and our spinners do a good job I think we can win this.
Have you seen the previous three tests?!

Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Well better news to wake up to. Ball and Buttler keeping on. 400 beckons.

spikeyhead

17,299 posts

197 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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It's hard work keeping up any semblance of enthusiasm for this series.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Despite following yesterday, totally forgot it was on today.

Heading towards another crushing innings defeat I see.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Cook off the field. Stand in skip Root immediately brings himself on... takes two quick wickets.

spikeyhead

17,299 posts

197 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Rooooooooooooooooooooooot


Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Boycs may have a point when he said that Cook and Bayliss need their heads examined picking four seamers for this test.

India do bat beautifully Kohli must be one of the classiest bats to ever wield the willow wand.

However England effective lost this test with the the selection.


hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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hornetrider said:
Heading towards another crushing innings defeat I see.
coffee

Baron Greenback

6,974 posts

150 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Oh dear not a good start either!

Edited by Baron Greenback on Sunday 11th December 08:01

spikeyhead

17,299 posts

197 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Quit them negative waves Moriarty

Nothing can go wrong from here