Wiggins - could this be a Similar issue as Lance A ?

[okgo]

lol, God no. Utter garbage.

[anonymous-user]

Granfondo said:

Do we believe Brailsford's statement that the package was a decongestant that is readily available in France but was flown from the UK via Geneva to help Brad with his snotters?

Yes, that's it all done and dusted. Time to move on.

Sir Brads still a legend. Funding and Brailsford's Marginal gains is what's beating the cheating cycling foreigners.

Don't expect great track performances until the 2020 Olympics. Froome to win the 2017 tour but not BBC sports personality of the year.

[johnxjsc1985]

Granfondo said:

Do we believe Brailsford's statement that the package was a decongestant that is readily available in France but was flown from the UK via Geneva to help Brad with his snotters?

did you watch the section with him answering questions

[mcelliott]

More crap from Brailsford, nothing unusual there, lie after lie - a lot more to come out of this I expect. Shipping a legal performance enhancer half way across France when it can be bought 10km away - yeah right. Anyway, interesting interview with one of Sky's fully paid up fan boys - even he can see the writing on the wall - it's like the dying days of US Postal/Radio Shack.

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/High...

[johnxjsc1985]

so the only actual facts are no rules have been broken and a package containing a decongestant was carried by someone who was already going to help with moving the team to the next race.
The UCI and WADA have not placed any sanctions on SKY or Wiggins so what next.

[johnxjsc1985]

johnxjsc1985 said:

so the only actual facts are no rules have been broken and a package containing a decongestant was carried by someone who was already going to help with moving the team to the next race.
The UCI and WADA have not placed any sanctions on SKY or Wiggins so what next.

UKAD still haven't completed their investigations. ALso Walsh has been very critical of Brailsford in this and suggests the best way forward is for him to go. However going would be an admission of some wrongdoing.
I would put my hard earned 50p on SKY and Brailsford being there at the TDF

[Granfondo]

johnxjsc1985 said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

so the only actual facts are no rules have been broken and a package containing a decongestant was carried by someone who was already going to help with moving the team to the next race.
The UCI and WADA have not placed any sanctions on SKY or Wiggins so what next.

UKAD still haven't completed their investigations. ALso Walsh has been very critical of Brailsford in this and suggests the best way forward is for him to go. However going would be an admission of some wrongdoing.
I would put my hard earned 50p on SKY and Brailsford being there at the TDF

Do you still wear your yellow wristband or is it sky blue now?

[WestyCarl]

johnxjsc1985 said:

I would put my hard earned 50p on SKY and Brailsford being there at the TDF

As they've done nothing illegal that's a reasonably safe bet. (unless the -ve publicity gets to much for SKY)

[johnxjsc1985]

Granfondo said:

Do you still wear your yellow wristband or is it sky blue now?

pratt of a post.I have never owned a wristband but you clearly did. Nobody has proved anything yet other than some people really don't like Wiggins,Sky and Brailsford and their judgement is clearly clouded. If UKAD come out and say SKY are the most clean team they have ever seen in SPort it will still not be enough for some people.
I will wait for the evidence before hanging anyone out to dry.

[Granfondo]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Granfondo said:

Do you still wear your yellow wristband or is it sky blue now?

pratt of a post.I have never owned a wristband but you clearly did. Nobody has proved anything yet other than some people really don't like Wiggins,Sky and Brailsford and their judgement is clearly clouded. If UKAD come out and say SKY are the most clean team they have ever seen in SPort it will still not be enough for some people.
I will wait for the evidence before hanging anyone out to dry.

[Talksteer]

Granfondo said:

Do we believe Brailsford's statement that the package was a decongestant that is readily available in France but was flown from the UK via Geneva to help Brad with his snotters?

Yeah because given all the drugs testing and potential for contamination or taking the wrong stuff teams just purchase all their pharmaceuticals from the local French pharmacy.

Least risky solution....

[Granfondo]

Talksteer said:

Granfondo said:

Do we believe Brailsford's statement that the package was a decongestant that is readily available in France but was flown from the UK via Geneva to help Brad with his snotters?

Yeah because given all the drugs testing and potential for contamination or taking the wrong stuff teams just purchase all their pharmaceuticals from the local French pharmacy.

Least risky solution....

Do the French teams get theirs sent over from England just in case?

[mcelliott]

Lets not forget that through all this sky gave a perfectly healthy Wiggins a PED to win the tour.

[epom]

Nothing to see here. Or should I say, those who want to see nothing won't see anything.

[Talksteer]

Granfondo said:

Talksteer said:

Granfondo said:

Do we believe Brailsford's statement that the package was a decongestant that is readily available in France but was flown from the UK via Geneva to help Brad with his snotters?

Yeah because given all the drugs testing and potential for contamination or taking the wrong stuff teams just purchase all their pharmaceuticals from the local French pharmacy.

Least risky solution....

Do the French teams get theirs sent over from England just in case?

I assume that the French teams get medical packages from their approved supply chain in France sent over to the UK when they cycle the Tour of Britain.

They won't just pop into Boots.

For that matter virtually every large organisation has an approved supply chain for any business critical item or service they don't just let staff buy thinhs from local shops.

[Talksteer]

epom said:

Nothing to see here. Or should I say, those who want to see nothing won't see anything.

Mr Pot meet Mr Kettle

[Talksteer]

mcelliott said:

Lets not forget that through all this sky gave a perfectly healthy Wiggins a PED to win the tour.

Look up prophylactic, Wiggins is never going to have to return the yellow jersey.

[epom]

Talksteer said:

epom said:

Nothing to see here. Or should I say, those who want to see nothing won't see anything.

Mr Pot meet Mr Kettle

He was on pot as well ?

[WestyCarl]

So a team who pride themselves in marginal gains and efficiency take 3 months to investigate and then admit it's just decongestant. That's forgetting all the wrong stories along the way.

Oh, and this week the Chair of the British Cycling Ethics committee (and Board Member) stated he still had no idea what was in the package and had not discussed it.

As much as I like British Cycling some of this stuff just isn't believable.

[johnxjsc1985]

WestyCarl said:

So a team who pride themselves in marginal gains and efficiency take 3 months to investigate and then admit it's just decongestant. That's forgetting all the wrong stories along the way.

Oh, and this week the Chair of the British Cycling Ethics committee (and Board Member) stated he still had no idea what was in the package and had not discussed it.

As much as I like British Cycling some of this stuff just isn't believable.

its not SKY doing the investigation its UKAD and they need more time apparently. They gave Brailsford permission to discuss the contents of the package as previously they were not allowed to discuss anything whilst the investigation was ongoing. Some have already made their minds up regardless of the findings UKAD will publish. I'll wait until the evidence is out before I stick the boot in.