Autumn Internationals Nov 2016 Rugby
Discussion
How about the WRU start to change the tired Wales team and give the youth opportunity.
Gethin is done time to move on.
These are great future options
Ben John, Dafydd Howells, Sam Davies, Keelan Giles, Sam Parry, Steff Evans, James Davies, Rhys Patchell, Jack Condy, Tomos Williams, Lewis Evans
But what about this:-
How about Moriaty at 6 if Flateau is fit and at 8 and Tips at 7? That's a pretty dynamic back row.
How about Sam Davies at 10 and Owen Williams 12 (Leicester).
Then have half penny and North on the wings with Alain full back.
Gethin is done time to move on.
These are great future options
Ben John, Dafydd Howells, Sam Davies, Keelan Giles, Sam Parry, Steff Evans, James Davies, Rhys Patchell, Jack Condy, Tomos Williams, Lewis Evans
But what about this:-
How about Moriaty at 6 if Flateau is fit and at 8 and Tips at 7? That's a pretty dynamic back row.
How about Sam Davies at 10 and Owen Williams 12 (Leicester).
Then have half penny and North on the wings with Alain full back.
XCP said:
I don't know the answer for Wales. But I am fairly sure it isn't Cuthbert.
When he is good he is good - however that is so rare at test level it's not worth while especially given the alternative options. Wales simply need to stop going wide instantly every f
king time they get he ball. Use the forwards go through the phases sap in defenders create the gaps then drift it wide. Have dummy runners.
Don't waste 5-7mins easily on trying to get a try from a simple penalty. Either take it quickly tap and run or kick the 3. Restart and go again. Too many times Wales have been guilty of white line fever and don't think smart points first job done. Instead lose possession end up with zilch and a boosted opponent who kept you out and a demoralised team for letting it go.
Smollet said:
Ian Lancs said:
Smollet said:
I can't help thinking that the Irish are going to get their arses handed to them tonight.
Especially with this TMOI saw nothing wrong with that Cane tackle, the Irish player clearly spins himself straight into a head clash without looking. First there is head-head contact, then there is shoulder-shoulder contact, then after that the Irish player slides under Cane as he goes down. I certainly wouldn't call it a high tackle, the outcome was unfortunate but it wasn't Cane's fault.
Fekitoa got it wrong and deserved his card, no argument there. I don't think there was any malicious intent, looked to me like he was expecting the player to step away from him instead of trying to duck through him and just mistimed it.
I went bush for the weekend so I missed the game and have only seen highlights, but it seems like some of the Irish fans and UK media need to stop whinging and looking for excuses and accept that they got outplayed.
Edited by GravelBen on Monday 21st November 05:40
epom said:
Another issue was the final try, absolutely a forward pass so much so that Best approached the referee about it as the kicker was lining up.
Watch it again in slow motion. Look at where the pass leaves Perenara's hand, and where Fekitoa is standing when he recieves it. Not forward. I thought it was forward too at first glance, but on closer inspection the ref made the right call.epom said:
Lastly the try NZ got when Sexton almost held Barrett up. I think it was down to be fair, but the referee seemed astounded the tmo was about to give it, he even double and treble checked it. Why not make a call. Such a shame after an incredible game we end up talking about a referee lacking balls.
Maybe the ref was astounded that the TMO wasn't binning Sexton for the swinging arm to Barretts head or the arm around his neck? If it wasn't a try it would have been a penalty try and a card IMO.Edited by GravelBen on Monday 21st November 05:41
dci said:
Kermit power said:
Two differences between you and a rugby international...
1. Your boss probably isn't as directly responsible for your performance on the day as a rugby player's is.
2. Your boss won't have seen all of your potential replacements when he has to decide whether or not to sack you.
Was aimed more at the players than the coaches. 1. Your boss probably isn't as directly responsible for your performance on the day as a rugby player's is.
2. Your boss won't have seen all of your potential replacements when he has to decide whether or not to sack you.
If you were to listen to the buildup on radio Wales during the week you'd think we have the best players in the world. They performance on the day is far from. A few players need to be left out of the squad permanently and let other have a chance.
If one or two players fail in the step up from club to international level, then by all means get rid of the players. When it's the whole team failing, look to the bosses.
GravelBen said:
Irish fans should be thanking the TMO for that one, if it wasn't a try it would have been a penalty try and an Irish player in the bin for trying to rip Barrett's head off.
I saw nothing wrong with that Cane tackle, the Irish player clearly spins himself straight into a head clash without looking. First there is head-head contact, then there is shoulder-shoulder contact, then after that the Irish player slides under Cane as he goes down. I certainly wouldn't call it a high tackle, the outcome was unfortunate but it wasn't Cane's fault.
Fekitoa got it wrong and deserved his card, no argument there. I don't think there was any malicious intent, looked to me like he was expecting the player to step away from him instead of trying to duck through him and just mistimed it.
I went bush for the weekend so I missed the game and have only seen highlights, but it seems like some of the Irish fans and UK media need to stop whinging and looking for excuses and accept that they got outplayed.
Both now cited I saw nothing wrong with that Cane tackle, the Irish player clearly spins himself straight into a head clash without looking. First there is head-head contact, then there is shoulder-shoulder contact, then after that the Irish player slides under Cane as he goes down. I certainly wouldn't call it a high tackle, the outcome was unfortunate but it wasn't Cane's fault.
Fekitoa got it wrong and deserved his card, no argument there. I don't think there was any malicious intent, looked to me like he was expecting the player to step away from him instead of trying to duck through him and just mistimed it.
I went bush for the weekend so I missed the game and have only seen highlights, but it seems like some of the Irish fans and UK media need to stop whinging and looking for excuses and accept that they got outplayed.
Edited by GravelBen on Monday 21st November 05:40
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38045809
GravelBen said:
epom said:
Another issue was the final try, absolutely a forward pass so much so that Best approached the referee about it as the kicker was lining up.
Watch it again in slow motion. Look at where the pass leaves Perenara's hand, and where Fekitoa is standing when he recieves it. Not forward. I thought it was forward too at first glance, but on closer inspection the ref made the right call.epom said:
Lastly the try NZ got when Sexton almost held Barrett up. I think it was down to be fair, but the referee seemed astounded the tmo was about to give it, he even double and treble checked it. Why not make a call. Such a shame after an incredible game we end up talking about a referee lacking balls.
Maybe the ref was astounded that the TMO wasn't binning Sexton for the swinging arm to Barretts head or the arm around his neck? If it wasn't a try it would have been a penalty try and a card IMO.Edited by GravelBen on Monday 21st November 05:41
Have to agree on the Sexton issue, the forward pass less so.
The Henderson tackle I have no issue with.
DocJock said:
well it is the express so there is a large element of hope that (as usual) they're full of st!dci said:
Can't imagine it being all that better when Gatland comes back to be honest. We're too slow, too small, too disorganised and make too many mistakes. I don't get how people who get paid to do this can do it so badly? If I was that bad at my job I'd be out on my ear by the end of the week..
Our next match against England is going to be a bloodbath!
I assume that you mean too small in terms of player pool since the team themselves don't exactly look like a bunch of midget lightweights!Our next match against England is going to be a bloodbath!
Edited by dci on Saturday 19th November 17:24
Smollet said:
Both now cited
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38045809
Fekitoa given one week off, Cane cleared. Still don't know why they didn't cite Sexton?http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38045809
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