Autumn Internationals Nov 2016 Rugby

[spikeyhead]

Phud said:

If England don't want Roko, can Wales have him so we don't ever need to select Cuthbert again please.

Surely there's several hundred thousand of your own who'd be better than Cuthbert

[Welshbeef]

spikeyhead said:

Phud said:

If England don't want Roko, can Wales have him so we don't ever need to select Cuthbert again please.

Surely there's several hundred thousand of your own who'd be better than Cuthbert

The thing is he is strong at club level - what happens to his ability when he moves to Test level?

[spikeyhead]

Welshbeef said:

spikeyhead said:

Phud said:

If England don't want Roko, can Wales have him so we don't ever need to select Cuthbert again please.

Surely there's several hundred thousand of your own who'd be better than Cuthbert

The thing is he is strong at club level - what happens to his ability when he moves to Test level?

I suspect it's a bit of panic, coupled with flat track bully syndrome. It's the silly drops that get me, time and time again. Has he been coached by Stuart Lancaster?

[Phud]

Welshbeef said:

The thing is he is strong at club level - what happens to his ability when he moves to Test level?

Then leave him there because in my eyes he has not made the leap to be selected.

[Welshbeef]

Wales performance this series

V Oz ---- shocking.
V Pumas - the opponents were off their game and yet we kept allowing them back in. Poor. (Though held onto a win)
V Japan -- poor especially against much weaker opponents. That said somehow managed to get a win
V SA ....

[Phud]

The boks game needs to be a good display, we have seen what others have done, if we lose, I think we are heading for the wooden spoon.

The fact I am down the pub with friends means a loss will be expensive.

[Welshbeef]

Phud said:

The boks game needs to be a good display, we have seen what others have done, if we lose, I think we are heading for the wooden spoon.

The fact I am down the pub with friends means a loss will be expensive.

To say we have to beat SA is a big call. Regardless of recent form - to beat them is a huge scalp and needs to be considered so

[Welshbeef]

When we're the All Blacks just an average of ok side?

Have they always been at the sharp end of the game from day 1? Why are they so special?

[GravelBen]

epom said:

Valid points, but you are watching without blinkers and thats just not fair.
Have to agree on the Sexton issue, the forward pass less so.
The Henderson tackle I have no issue with.

Just to keep stirring the pot of the NZ/Irish game... I see ref boss Alain Rolland has now said that Aaron Smith should never have been yellow carded and that it shouldn't have even been a penalty.

[Cheib]

Welshbeef said:

When we're the All Blacks just an average of ok side?

Have they always been at the sharp end of the game from day 1? Why are they so special?

I think because the whole system is geared towards the national team and because nobody whoever they are believe's they're bigger than the shirt. They're like it with the coaches too...generally the All Blacks manager learns his trade domestically then gets sent overseas for a few years to learn about the opposition from the inside and then goes back for the top job. Their weakness used to be the scrum but they fixed that by sending the coaches over here to learn how Northern Hemisphere teams coached it.

Oh and they play the game in a cleverer way than anyone else. I was listening to a podcast the other day talking about the Ireland vs All Blacks game and how they played on the edge etc. Apparently OZ and SA both average one yellow card per roughly every 15 penalties. NZ average one yellow card per 40 penalties....

[DannyScene]

Haven't had time to read the rest of the thread but why the hell are everyone elses games on TV in England but the England games we only get highlights?

[irocfan]

poss red (if ref is feeling harsh)?


bugger

red, ref feeling a little harsh...


real game on now

[basherX]

fking Daly needs shooting for that. jesus

[sidicks]

irocfan said:

poss red (if ref is feeling harsh)?


bugger

red, ref feeling a little harsh...


real game on now

Player safety is vitally important, but to my mind intent does need to be taken into account - that incident was in no way deliberate, just careless, so a yellow would be more than sufficient in my view.

Although I'm an avid watcher of the game, I've never played it beyond school level, so would be interested to hear what the experts think.

[Smollet]

It wasn't malicious by Daly just stupid and the law was applied correctly. Definitely game on now.

[basherX]

It was reckless and he exacerbated the offence by wrapping his arms around the 8's legs whilst he was in the air. In the current climate they all know, or should know, what that means. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

[ninja-lewis]

DannyScene said:

Haven't had time to read the rest of the thread but why the hell are everyone elses games on TV in England but the England games we only get highlights?

Money. RFU sold TV rights to internationals (other than 6 Nations and WC) to Sky. SRU and WRU sold their rights to BBC.

[sidicks]

basherX said:

It was reckless and he exacerbated the offence by wrapping his arms around the 8's legs whilst he was in the air. In the current climate they all know, or should know, what that means. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

And yet a 'similar' offence by the Argentinian doesn't even get a yellow card. Crazy.

The intent was the same in both cases.

[basherX]

sidicks said:

And yet a 'similar' offence by the Argentinian doesn't even get a yellow card. Crazy.

The intent was the same in both cases.

Agreed.

[DocJock]

Agreed. Red for Daly and yellow for the Argie would have been my call too.

Daly was stupid but a rush of blood to the head I think.