The Golf Thread - 2017!
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It is 99% in your heads lads. Putters all do as good a job as you ask them.
If a new putter gives you a bit of positivity, and that translates into a few more putts sunk, then that is great.
But recognise that it was the new positivity that did it, not the new putter. So work on other ways to boost your positivity.
If you think you might need a new putter, then you need definitely need to do something to change your mindset, whether it is buy a new putter or do something else, because you are standing over every putt in a state of negativity.
Constantly changing putters is passing the buck. As usual in golf, the problem lies between your ears, as does the solution.
If a new putter gives you a bit of positivity, and that translates into a few more putts sunk, then that is great.
But recognise that it was the new positivity that did it, not the new putter. So work on other ways to boost your positivity.
If you think you might need a new putter, then you need definitely need to do something to change your mindset, whether it is buy a new putter or do something else, because you are standing over every putt in a state of negativity.
Constantly changing putters is passing the buck. As usual in golf, the problem lies between your ears, as does the solution.
Oh it's not a performance issue I'm having with the old putter, more of a practical issue - my current putter has a polished chrome head which the sun reflects off, and if it's in the wrong position it goes straight into my eyes meaning I can't see 
I had another go with the Versa and am suitably impressed - knocked in 3 10 footers in a row on their (admittedly plastic) putting green, so have taken the plunge. With the discount and some vouchers I had its only costing £70 so can't go too far wrong, if it doesn't suit me I can get that back on eBay or Golfbidder, go back to the Yonex and invest in a welders helmet
I had another go with the Versa and am suitably impressed - knocked in 3 10 footers in a row on their (admittedly plastic) putting green, so have taken the plunge. With the discount and some vouchers I had its only costing £70 so can't go too far wrong, if it doesn't suit me I can get that back on eBay or Golfbidder, go back to the Yonex and invest in a welders helmet
SpeckledJim said:
It is 99% in your heads lads. Putters all do as good a job as you ask them.
If a new putter gives you a bit of positivity, and that translates into a few more putts sunk, then that is great.
But recognise that it was the new positivity that did it, not the new putter. So work on other ways to boost your positivity.
If you think you might need a new putter, then you need definitely need to do something to change your mindset, whether it is buy a new putter or do something else, because you are standing over every putt in a state of negativity.
Constantly changing putters is passing the buck. As usual in golf, the problem lies between your ears, as does the solution.
I'm not sure who you're addressing here Jim, we've both had our putters for ~20 years!If a new putter gives you a bit of positivity, and that translates into a few more putts sunk, then that is great.
But recognise that it was the new positivity that did it, not the new putter. So work on other ways to boost your positivity.
If you think you might need a new putter, then you need definitely need to do something to change your mindset, whether it is buy a new putter or do something else, because you are standing over every putt in a state of negativity.
Constantly changing putters is passing the buck. As usual in golf, the problem lies between your ears, as does the solution.
I love mine, and have no trouble with it at all (considered a good putter). I just understand the desire to buy new shiny things, because everyone gets that from time to time don't they?
Edited to add:
There is no denying some of the benefits of new putter tech. My putter is as masochistic as it gets! I know for sure that a newer putter would be easier to use in some ways, but can't love them. My friend has an Odyssey Fang something or other (looks like a piece of motorway?) and it is face balanced, and super stable. I don't like the feedback/lack off, compared to my putter, but you surely can't deny that the putters offered nowadays, have moved the game on?
Edited by DuncanM on Saturday 21st January 14:53
DuncanM said:
SpeckledJim said:
It is 99% in your heads lads. Putters all do as good a job as you ask them.
If a new putter gives you a bit of positivity, and that translates into a few more putts sunk, then that is great.
But recognise that it was the new positivity that did it, not the new putter. So work on other ways to boost your positivity.
If you think you might need a new putter, then you need definitely need to do something to change your mindset, whether it is buy a new putter or do something else, because you are standing over every putt in a state of negativity.
Constantly changing putters is passing the buck. As usual in golf, the problem lies between your ears, as does the solution.
I'm not sure who you're addressing here Jim, we've both had our putters for ~20 years!If a new putter gives you a bit of positivity, and that translates into a few more putts sunk, then that is great.
But recognise that it was the new positivity that did it, not the new putter. So work on other ways to boost your positivity.
If you think you might need a new putter, then you need definitely need to do something to change your mindset, whether it is buy a new putter or do something else, because you are standing over every putt in a state of negativity.
Constantly changing putters is passing the buck. As usual in golf, the problem lies between your ears, as does the solution.
I love mine, and have no trouble with it at all (considered a good putter). I just understand the desire to buy new shiny things, because everyone gets that from time to time don't they?
Edited to add:
There is no denying some of the benefits of new putter tech. My putter is as masochistic as it gets! I know for sure that a newer putter would be easier to use in some ways, but can't love them. My friend has an Odyssey Fang something or other (looks like a piece of motorway?) and it is face balanced, and super stable. I don't like the feedback/lack off, compared to my putter, but you surely can't deny that the putters offered nowadays, have moved the game on?
Edited by DuncanM on Saturday 21st January 14:53
Im not sure I am persuaded that putter technology has really advanced past, say, Odyssey #7, or anything else a similar shape.
Open to being persuaded though.
SpeckledJim said:
It wasnt directed at anyone in particular. Like you say, once you have found a putter (any putter) you are happy with, your search is over for decades.
Im not sure I am persuaded that putter technology has really advanced past, say, Odyssey #7, or anything else a similar shape.
Open to being persuaded though.
Some of the new high MOI stuff looks interesting, I think the underlying thing is that good putters will putt well with most things, tech can help alot though, and even the pro's tinker with putting more than anything else Im not sure I am persuaded that putter technology has really advanced past, say, Odyssey #7, or anything else a similar shape.
Open to being persuaded though.
http://cureputters.com these look interesting, review by Crossfield is worth checking out
Edited by DuncanM on Saturday 21st January 19:36
DuncanM said:
SpeckledJim said:
It wasnt directed at anyone in particular. Like you say, once you have found a putter (any putter) you are happy with, your search is over for decades.
Im not sure I am persuaded that putter technology has really advanced past, say, Odyssey #7, or anything else a similar shape.
Open to being persuaded though.
Some of the new high MOI stuff looks interesting, I think the underlying thing is that good putters will putt well with most things, tech can help alot though, and even the pro's tinker with putting more than anything else Im not sure I am persuaded that putter technology has really advanced past, say, Odyssey #7, or anything else a similar shape.
Open to being persuaded though.
http://cureputters.com these look interesting, review by Crossfield is worth checking out
Edited by DuncanM on Saturday 21st January 19:36
High MOI is an extremely simple idea, and I could design something easy to manufacture with higher MOI than 95% of the putters on the market in an hour. But it might not look flash.
All the weird shapes and intricate castings and milling and strange complicated-looking pointy bits are basically bulls
t. They are there to promote a belief that we are carrying a high-tech precision instrument, and are thus well-equipped to be great putters.But if we remove that wilful self-delusion, it is all rubbish.
A Ping Anser, or Zebra mallet, or Odyssey #7 will do any of us fine. The rest is in our heads.
SpeckledJim said:
I cannot help thinking that these manufacturers are all selling what we all already know and calling it new.
High MOI is an extremely simple idea, and I could design something easy to manufacture with higher MOI than 95% of the putters on the market in an hour. But it might not look flash.
All the weird shapes and intricate castings and milling and strange complicated-looking pointy bits are basically bullst. They are there to promote a belief that we are carrying a high-tech precision instrument, and are thus well-equipped to be great putters.
But if we remove that wilful self-delusion, it is all rubbish.
A Ping Anser, or Zebra mallet, or Odyssey #7 will do any of us fine. The rest is in our heads.
Absolutely, add bullseye and 8802 blade to that list High MOI is an extremely simple idea, and I could design something easy to manufacture with higher MOI than 95% of the putters on the market in an hour. But it might not look flash.
All the weird shapes and intricate castings and milling and strange complicated-looking pointy bits are basically bulls
t. They are there to promote a belief that we are carrying a high-tech precision instrument, and are thus well-equipped to be great putters.But if we remove that wilful self-delusion, it is all rubbish.
A Ping Anser, or Zebra mallet, or Odyssey #7 will do any of us fine. The rest is in our heads.
DuncanM said:
SpeckledJim said:
I cannot help thinking that these manufacturers are all selling what we all already know and calling it new.
High MOI is an extremely simple idea, and I could design something easy to manufacture with higher MOI than 95% of the putters on the market in an hour. But it might not look flash.
All the weird shapes and intricate castings and milling and strange complicated-looking pointy bits are basically bullst. They are there to promote a belief that we are carrying a high-tech precision instrument, and are thus well-equipped to be great putters.
But if we remove that wilful self-delusion, it is all rubbish.
A Ping Anser, or Zebra mallet, or Odyssey #7 will do any of us fine. The rest is in our heads.
Absolutely, add bullseye and 8802 blade to that list High MOI is an extremely simple idea, and I could design something easy to manufacture with higher MOI than 95% of the putters on the market in an hour. But it might not look flash.
All the weird shapes and intricate castings and milling and strange complicated-looking pointy bits are basically bulls
t. They are there to promote a belief that we are carrying a high-tech precision instrument, and are thus well-equipped to be great putters.But if we remove that wilful self-delusion, it is all rubbish.
A Ping Anser, or Zebra mallet, or Odyssey #7 will do any of us fine. The rest is in our heads.
On the subject of putting innovations, what does everyone think of this side saddle stroke DeChambeau has been trying? Claims it's more natural, but from what I've seen, it appears to take half an hour to line up, and every putt I saw him take he missed. Does anyone think there's anything in it?
All you poor fellows fighting with frozen golf courses! Though I hate most of the life in Miami, the reasonably priced access to lots of golf courses goes some way to make up for it! Did my usual Saturday morning 9 holes with friends and at this time of the year the temperature is rather pleasant.
Today I had my new weapon - am a relative beginner (played for 2 years but no lessons) and have been fighting a slice on my drive. You know the kind of backspinny banana shot that loses you loads of distance and teaches you to play out of the rough! Annoyed me so much that I sold my Ping I25 driver and for a while I've just been using a three wood off the tee instead as it gives me much the same distance and I find more fairways. Well after reading up on the web I built myself a custom driver with ebay components - an old Ping K15 10.5* head with a prolaunch red shaft cut down to 44.5". Today I was driving straight and further than ever before - very satisfying!
Am hyped up for another 9 holes tomorrow evening followed by a couple of IPAs in the 19th hole. It is such a frustrating sport, but ultimately is much cheaper than therapy!
Today I had my new weapon - am a relative beginner (played for 2 years but no lessons) and have been fighting a slice on my drive. You know the kind of backspinny banana shot that loses you loads of distance and teaches you to play out of the rough! Annoyed me so much that I sold my Ping I25 driver and for a while I've just been using a three wood off the tee instead as it gives me much the same distance and I find more fairways. Well after reading up on the web I built myself a custom driver with ebay components - an old Ping K15 10.5* head with a prolaunch red shaft cut down to 44.5". Today I was driving straight and further than ever before - very satisfying!
Am hyped up for another 9 holes tomorrow evening followed by a couple of IPAs in the 19th hole. It is such a frustrating sport, but ultimately is much cheaper than therapy!
Hi All,
I've recently started playing again after having lessons as a kid but never really getting in to it. I used to struggle as I played a good level of cricket and I just couldn't dedicate the time to it. I'm 29 now and having some more lessons. I'm now absolutely hooked!
I did the normal thing and went and bought a package set of Wilsons, 2 weeks later I've bought a set of Nike CCI irons, and SQ driver and a new Nike bag.
I'm sure the Wilsons would have been fine for me but after having a play with some Nike's and some Callaway's I realised I preferred the feel, weight and flight of the Nike's.
I need to get a new putter so I can move the Wilsons on as a full package. Any recommendations for a new player iare welcomed!
I really need to get out and play a course as I've only been to the range so far, I've spent a fortune on clothes, shoes, etc etc so I'm very much all the gear and no idea at the moment.
I seem to be picking it up well though, this was my latest practice session before I purchased my Nike irons...
https://youtu.be/kBI-CQk9skM
Reading through this thread most of you sound like professionals so I hope a +28 handicapper is welcome!
I've recently started playing again after having lessons as a kid but never really getting in to it. I used to struggle as I played a good level of cricket and I just couldn't dedicate the time to it. I'm 29 now and having some more lessons. I'm now absolutely hooked!
I did the normal thing and went and bought a package set of Wilsons, 2 weeks later I've bought a set of Nike CCI irons, and SQ driver and a new Nike bag.
I'm sure the Wilsons would have been fine for me but after having a play with some Nike's and some Callaway's I realised I preferred the feel, weight and flight of the Nike's.
I need to get a new putter so I can move the Wilsons on as a full package. Any recommendations for a new player iare welcomed!
I really need to get out and play a course as I've only been to the range so far, I've spent a fortune on clothes, shoes, etc etc so I'm very much all the gear and no idea at the moment.
I seem to be picking it up well though, this was my latest practice session before I purchased my Nike irons...
https://youtu.be/kBI-CQk9skM
Reading through this thread most of you sound like professionals so I hope a +28 handicapper is welcome!
Swing looks pretty good to me as a fellow high handicapper, I can see plenty to improve on but I'm in no place to start giving tips 
Lessons for me were the best money I've ever spent, a few well targeted changes (mainly grip position and grip pressure) straightened out my shots and gave me much more distance. If I hadn't had the lessons I don't think I'd ever have figured it out for myself.
How do you get on with the longer clubs? I'm still at the stage where 6 iron is about as long as it gets before the shots become inconsistent and start having unwanted shape or direction more often.
My 9/8/7 irons I'm finding easy to fire straight more often than not which in turn makes them enjoyable to practice with but not great for training myself to improve. I tend to practice now with 5 iron and above to try and learn what works and what doesn't. Driver is just fun and frustration rolled into one...
Lessons for me were the best money I've ever spent, a few well targeted changes (mainly grip position and grip pressure) straightened out my shots and gave me much more distance. If I hadn't had the lessons I don't think I'd ever have figured it out for myself.
How do you get on with the longer clubs? I'm still at the stage where 6 iron is about as long as it gets before the shots become inconsistent and start having unwanted shape or direction more often.
My 9/8/7 irons I'm finding easy to fire straight more often than not which in turn makes them enjoyable to practice with but not great for training myself to improve. I tend to practice now with 5 iron and above to try and learn what works and what doesn't. Driver is just fun and frustration rolled into one...
SteveS Cup said:
Hi All,
I've recently started playing again after having lessons as a kid but never really getting in to it. I used to struggle as I played a good level of cricket and I just couldn't dedicate the time to it. I'm 29 now and having some more lessons. I'm now absolutely hooked!
I did the normal thing and went and bought a package set of Wilsons, 2 weeks later I've bought a set of Nike CCI irons, and SQ driver and a new Nike bag.
I'm sure the Wilsons would have been fine for me but after having a play with some Nike's and some Callaway's I realised I preferred the feel, weight and flight of the Nike's.
I need to get a new putter so I can move the Wilsons on as a full package. Any recommendations for a new player iare welcomed!
I really need to get out and play a course as I've only been to the range so far, I've spent a fortune on clothes, shoes, etc etc so I'm very much all the gear and no idea at the moment.
I seem to be picking it up well though, this was my latest practice session before I purchased my Nike irons...
https://youtu.be/kBI-CQk9skM
Reading through this thread most of you sound like professionals so I hope a +28 handicapper is welcome!
Welcome! I've recently started playing again after having lessons as a kid but never really getting in to it. I used to struggle as I played a good level of cricket and I just couldn't dedicate the time to it. I'm 29 now and having some more lessons. I'm now absolutely hooked!
I did the normal thing and went and bought a package set of Wilsons, 2 weeks later I've bought a set of Nike CCI irons, and SQ driver and a new Nike bag.
I'm sure the Wilsons would have been fine for me but after having a play with some Nike's and some Callaway's I realised I preferred the feel, weight and flight of the Nike's.
I need to get a new putter so I can move the Wilsons on as a full package. Any recommendations for a new player iare welcomed!
I really need to get out and play a course as I've only been to the range so far, I've spent a fortune on clothes, shoes, etc etc so I'm very much all the gear and no idea at the moment.
I seem to be picking it up well though, this was my latest practice session before I purchased my Nike irons...
https://youtu.be/kBI-CQk9skM
Reading through this thread most of you sound like professionals so I hope a +28 handicapper is welcome!
That's a bloody tidy swing you have for a beginner
Get yourself breaking 100, then think about lessons would be my advice
Nice to know not everyone in this thread are playing off scratch!
Thanks! My swing improved massively in the space of 2 lessons, from being all over the place I can now hit an iron straight most of the time!
I'm a big guy so producing power isn't an issue, it's just timing and swinging correctly and I should be good!
I find the longer irons harder but I'm getting used to them! The new Nike irons have a 4 as well which I was hitting well today but the sun was blinding everyone at the range so really struggled to see where it was going, but all of the Nike irons felt amazing!
I've not received my new Nike driver yet but I'm hoping it will suit me well as it's meant to be very forgiving. I'm hitting my Wilson Driver 250 yards but I've not had a lesson with that yet!
https://youtu.be/4NC2v9tW3JE
Thanks! My swing improved massively in the space of 2 lessons, from being all over the place I can now hit an iron straight most of the time!
I'm a big guy so producing power isn't an issue, it's just timing and swinging correctly and I should be good!
I find the longer irons harder but I'm getting used to them! The new Nike irons have a 4 as well which I was hitting well today but the sun was blinding everyone at the range so really struggled to see where it was going, but all of the Nike irons felt amazing!
I've not received my new Nike driver yet but I'm hoping it will suit me well as it's meant to be very forgiving. I'm hitting my Wilson Driver 250 yards but I've not had a lesson with that yet!
https://youtu.be/4NC2v9tW3JE
DuncanM said:
Welcome!
That's a bloody tidy swing you have for a beginner
Get yourself breaking 100, then think about lessons would be my advice
Thank you! That's a bloody tidy swing you have for a beginner
Get yourself breaking 100, then think about lessons would be my advice
My local course were doing a deal on 4 x 1hr lessons which I couldn't refuse so jumped on it. I have a lesson tomorrow on chipping then one more on putting. I'll then go out with a few friends who play to a good standard and go from there!
SteveS Cup said:
Thank you!
My local course were doing a deal on 4 x 1hr lessons which I couldn't refuse so jumped on it. I have a lesson tomorrow on chipping then one more on putting. I'll then go out with a few friends who play to a good standard and go from there!
Wow, you really are doing all the right things!My local course were doing a deal on 4 x 1hr lessons which I couldn't refuse so jumped on it. I have a lesson tomorrow on chipping then one more on putting. I'll then go out with a few friends who play to a good standard and go from there!
With that swing, I predict that you'll be close to breaking 90 by end of year
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