The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)

[g4ry13]

Thought Dubois knocked him down

Fury wins this every time. At evens i'll be putting my money where my mouth is.

[fridaypassion]

Fury is certainly training like never before for this fight. He wasn't ready last time obviously hence the "cut". The only problem Fury has is that Usyk lives the life and will be training twice as hard. Fury can't train his footwork back from the dead he's going to get picked off over 10/11 rounds and get knocked out. A night of getting peppered by Usyks trademark
one twos and the end of this ridiculous sham is something I'm very much looking forward to!

[Pugaris]

g4ry13 said:

Thought Dubois knocked him down

Fury wins this every time. At evens i'll be putting my money where my mouth is.

Lump it on Usyk by KO, because that's what's happening

Don't think this is anything like a 50/50, let alone Fury heavy favourite as so many seem to be making it

Reminds me of Bud and Spence. It's a great fight between the best 2 in the division for Undisputed, but one is clearly a lot better than the other and I honestly struggle to understand why people make/made Fury/Spence favourite

[PRO5T]

Tickle said:

type-r said:

Ufff. What a finish.

Brutal

Just caught up with this, not a great fight but a bloody good win.

[Unreal]

Pugaris said:

g4ry13 said:

Thought Dubois knocked him down

Fury wins this every time. At evens i'll be putting my money where my mouth is.

Lump it on Usyk by KO, because that's what's happening

Don't think this is anything like a 50/50, let alone Fury heavy favourite as so many seem to be making it

Reminds me of Bud and Spence. It's a great fight between the best 2 in the division for Undisputed, but one is clearly a lot better than the other and I honestly struggle to understand why people make/made Fury/Spence favourite

I think Fury will be exposed. His record doesn't stand comparison to Usyk. I think he has always been overrated. I expect and hope for a Usyk masterclass and Fury to quit on his stool.

[g4ry13]

Pugaris said:

g4ry13 said:

Thought Dubois knocked him down

Fury wins this every time. At evens i'll be putting my money where my mouth is.

Lump it on Usyk by KO, because that's what's happening

Don't think this is anything like a 50/50, let alone Fury heavy favourite as so many seem to be making it

Reminds me of Bud and Spence. It's a great fight between the best 2 in the division for Undisputed, but one is clearly a lot better than the other and I honestly struggle to understand why people make/made Fury/Spence favourite

Fury to win by liver shot.

[lord trumpton]

Pugaris said:

g4ry13 said:

Thought Dubois knocked him down

Fury wins this every time. At evens i'll be putting my money where my mouth is.

Lump it on Usyk by KO, because that's what's happening

Don't think this is anything like a 50/50, let alone Fury heavy favourite as so many seem to be making it

Reminds me of Bud and Spence. It's a great fight between the best 2 in the division for Undisputed, but one is clearly a lot better than the other and I honestly struggle to understand why people make/made Fury/Spence favourite

I think when you see them in the ring together the height, weight and reach disparity will be obvious

I just can't see Usyk getting close tbh.

Watching the training videos seems Furys plan is based on keeping the distance and counterpunching when Usyk tries to close in

[EddieSteadyGo]

I get Usyk's record is excellent, he hasn't shown the same drop in performance as Fury (who does now seem to be suffering from more miles on the clock with his legs slowing down) and Usyk is clearly the better boxer and athlete. So, logically, everything points to Usyk winning on points.

But I still think Fury is going to win

[Pugaris]

lord trumpton said:

I think when you see them in the ring together the height, weight and reach disparity will be obvious

I just can't see Usyk getting close tbh.

They were obvious against AJ and he thoroughly outclassed him

[EddieSteadyGo]

This is quite nice; Tyson Fury looking back at some old footage when he was 20 years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-jhXLvAGJQ

[trickywoo]

Has anyone other than Holyfield been successful going cruiser to heavy weight?

[biggbn]

trickywoo said:

Has anyone other than Holyfield been successful going cruiser to heavy weight?

Michael Moorer went light heavy to heavy from memory, so did Michael Spinks. Archie Moore fought at heavyweight at the end of his huge career. David Haye was cw champ and heavyweight.

[Bright Halo]

biggbn said:

trickywoo said:

Has anyone other than Holyfield been successful going cruiser to heavy weight?

Michael Moorer went light heavy to heavy from memory, so did Michael Spinks. Archie Moore fought at heavyweight at the end of his huge career. David Haye was cw champ and heavyweight.

Unfortunately for Michael Spinks who was one hell of a fighter he ran into a prime Mike Tyson who ended his career.
You could see the fear in Spinks eyes when he stepped into the ring.
The stand out is Holyfield who was one tough nut and had many great battles. Eventually it took a very classy Lennox Lewis to prevail.
I liked David Haye and always thought he had a punchers chance against any of the bigger heavyweights.

[tuscaneer]

trickywoo said:

Has anyone other than Holyfield been successful going cruiser to heavy weight?

Bob Fitzsimmons went from Middleweight to heavyweight then back down to light heavy!

[272BHP]

tuscaneer said:

Bob Fitzsimmons went from Middleweight to heavyweight then back down to light heavy!

And let's not forget RJJ who went from a light-middleweight at the Olympics to the Heavyweight title without a single loss - I am discounting the Olympic final debacle and the Montell Griffin DQ

What a legacy he would have had if he just called it a day there.

[biggbn]

272BHP said:

tuscaneer said:

Bob Fitzsimmons went from Middleweight to heavyweight then back down to light heavy!

And let's not forget RJJ who went from a light-middleweight at the Olympics to the Heavyweight title without a single loss - I am discounting the Olympic final debacle and the Montell Griffin DQ

What a legacy he would have had if he just called it a day there.

And Toney...

[biggbn]

tuscaneer said:

trickywoo said:

Has anyone other than Holyfield been successful going cruiser to heavy weight?

Bob Fitzsimmons went from Middleweight to heavyweight then back down to light heavy!

Relatively common back then to fight at multiple weights, likely because heavyweights were rarely the giants they now are. Carpentier was a light heavy, so was Billy Conn, Ketchell, a Middleweight, fought, I think, Jack Johnson? Perhaps one of the best light heavies, Bob Foster campaigned at heavy latterly, Gene Tunney was a light heavyweight.

[tuscaneer]

biggbn said:

tuscaneer said:

trickywoo said:

Has anyone other than Holyfield been successful going cruiser to heavy weight?

Bob Fitzsimmons went from Middleweight to heavyweight then back down to light heavy!

Relatively common back then to fight at multiple weights, likely because heavyweights were rarely the giants they now are. Carpentier was a light heavy, so was Billy Conn, Ketchell, a Middleweight, fought, I think, Jack Johnson? Perhaps one of the best light heavies, Bob Foster campaigned at heavy latterly, Gene Tunney was a light heavyweight.

Yeah ketchel fought Jack Johnson .. the story around that fight is nuts .. it wasn't really a fight, more supposed to be an exhibition as Johnson was so much bigger than ketchel.... It was supposed to be fixed with both fighters agreeing beforehand to dance around each other ... But ketchel decided to double cross Johnson and actually put him down with an unexpected heavy shot. Johnson was furious, jumped up and promptly flattened ketchel with such a hard shot that ketchels 2 front teeth ended up embedded in Johnson's glove ..you can see on the film Johnson brushing the teeth out of his glove with the other glove

[tuscaneer]

272BHP said:

And let's not forget RJJ who went from a light-middleweight at the Olympics to the Heavyweight title without a single loss - I am discounting the Olympic final debacle and the Montell Griffin DQ

What a legacy he would have had if he just called it a day there.

That would be some legacy had he stepped out after Ruiz!!!

[andburg]

So this weekend, can anybody see kambosos beating lomachenko?

Seeing weigh in pictures it really surprised me how slight kambosos is in comparison, aside from an inch or so in height loma actually looks the bigger man which is really unusual for him