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Locke said:
I'll try to stay away but I can't promise 
. I really enjoy doing them.
Which is great . I really enjoy doing them.
One thing you could do is have two types of parkrun. One where you've trained hard during the previous couple of weeks, come into the parkrun tired and treat it as a short tempo run. Another where you ease up during the previous week and treat the parkrun as a race.
ewenm said:
Locke said:
I'll try to stay away but I can't promise . I really enjoy doing them.
Which is great . I really enjoy doing them.One thing you could do is have two types of parkrun. One where you've trained hard during the previous couple of weeks, come into the parkrun tired and treat it as a short tempo run. Another where you ease up during the previous week and treat the parkrun as a race.
phoned local (ish) running shop and they don't have any roclite 295's in stock and only have the 315's which are obviously a tad heavier....they also only have size 8.5 or 9.5 in when i want a size 9!
plan is to go to cardiff athletics track, do a session there then go to the shop who are under 1.5 miles from the track, try on the shoes. if the 8.5 is a bit small and the 9.5 a bit big, i can order the 9's online
maybe a bit harsh i know. if the 315's they have in an 8.5 fit (probably a bit tight though) i'll buy them.
plan is to go to cardiff athletics track, do a session there then go to the shop who are under 1.5 miles from the track, try on the shoes. if the 8.5 is a bit small and the 9.5 a bit big, i can order the 9's online
maybe a bit harsh i know. if the 315's they have in an 8.5 fit (probably a bit tight though) i'll buy them.didn't go to the running shop in the end. was going to go after training but there was a change of plan as i got DRENCHED. started out in clear blue skies but it soon hammered it down, including hail stones. 2 other training groups there all ran for cover and i just carried on running
3x1k off 100m VERY slow recovery; 3mins rest then 3x600m off 100m jog recovery; 4mins rest then 3x300m off 100m jog recovery.
pace was poor but it was reasonably windy, i was on my own and i had rather wet and soggy shoes (didn't wear spikes. average for the 1k reps was 3:28 (i know....it's slower than i hoped
) and the 600m reps were 1:58, again, very disappointing, and 300m reps were 51's which wasn't tooooo bad.
not too disappointed taking all things into consideration really but not great. still tempted to double-day and do a steady 30 mins later but we'll see.
3x1k off 100m VERY slow recovery; 3mins rest then 3x600m off 100m jog recovery; 4mins rest then 3x300m off 100m jog recovery.
pace was poor but it was reasonably windy, i was on my own and i had rather wet and soggy shoes (didn't wear spikes. average for the 1k reps was 3:28 (i know....it's slower than i hoped
) and the 600m reps were 1:58, again, very disappointing, and 300m reps were 51's which wasn't tooooo bad.not too disappointed taking all things into consideration really but not great. still tempted to double-day and do a steady 30 mins later but we'll see.
Hello...anyone there 
Session today, bit faster than I wanted. 4 sets of 400m, 300m, 200m with 60 secs recovery and 5 mins between sets. The rest of the group stopped at 3 so the last set was tough in the wind. I was also suckered into racing the rest of the group during the earlier sets, which just made the last set harder.
Still got a lot of speed (did an early 200m in ~28s in trainers) and quite a good kick despite HM training, its come back really quickly. My tolerance to lactic (small anyway) hasn't come back yet though, my legs get one sniff of the stuff and begin to shut down.
First race of the season on the 4th May (probably a 1500m) so looking in ok shape for that.
Session today, bit faster than I wanted. 4 sets of 400m, 300m, 200m with 60 secs recovery and 5 mins between sets. The rest of the group stopped at 3 so the last set was tough in the wind. I was also suckered into racing the rest of the group during the earlier sets, which just made the last set harder.
Still got a lot of speed (did an early 200m in ~28s in trainers) and quite a good kick despite HM training, its come back really quickly. My tolerance to lactic (small anyway) hasn't come back yet though, my legs get one sniff of the stuff and begin to shut down.
First race of the season on the 4th May (probably a 1500m) so looking in ok shape for that.
E38Ross said:
ewenm said:
Locke said:
I'll try to stay away but I can't promise . I really enjoy doing them.
Which is great . I really enjoy doing them.One thing you could do is have two types of parkrun. One where you've trained hard during the previous couple of weeks, come into the parkrun tired and treat it as a short tempo run. Another where you ease up during the previous week and treat the parkrun as a race.
Video I found interesting so I thought i'd share - http://www.ted.com/talks/christopher_mcdougall_are...
Tim330 said:
Anyone tried drinking beetroot juice before running? It was mentioned on "Bang Goes The Theory" yesterday. There seem to be a few references to it on a google search.
It's to do with the nitrates acting as vasodilators if i recall. Not tried it myself. Weighed myself this morning and put on 4lbs so back to eating a little better now!
E38Ross said:
It's to do with the nitrates acting as vasodilators if i recall. Not tried it myself.
Weighed myself this morning and put on 4lbs so back to eating a little better now!
I ordered some from Holland & Barrat. I'll see if it makes a difference next time I do a parkrun. I'll take anything (legal) that might help me get my pb time of 20.25 to below 20, even if it works as a placebo!Weighed myself this morning and put on 4lbs so back to eating a little better now!
Let us know how it goes.
I think tonight will be another session on my own
Only other guy who challenges me on a Tuesday is away, I'm wondering what to do. Going to run there tonight. Might do 1 mile hard-ish, then a few 800m reps, then a couple of 400s and then some 150-200m sprints.
I think tonight will be another session on my own
Only other guy who challenges me on a Tuesday is away, I'm wondering what to do. Going to run there tonight. Might do 1 mile hard-ish, then a few 800m reps, then a couple of 400s and then some 150-200m sprints.
Tim330 said:
I ordered some from Holland & Barrat. I'll see if it makes a difference next time I do a parkrun. I'll take anything (legal) that might help me get my pb time of 20.25 to below 20, even if it works as a placebo!
I tried drinking beetroot juice and couldn't stomach it but best of luck! Make sure you try some before the run.
andycambo said:
I tried drinking beetroot juice and couldn't stomach it but best of luck! Make sure you try some before the run.
Same here. Based on the data that says it increases your performance. I saw it on a science programme ages ago and then read up on it. But as you I couldn't handle more than a tiny glass, even the stuff mixed with apple juice, it was like drinking liquidized dirt.on road, not track: 6x800m (well, 0.5miles) off 2mins rest (averaged 2:38); 4mins rest then 4x400m off 75 secs (averaged 72secs); 5mins rest then 2x0.12 miles off 60 secs, not sure on the time of those but sub 4min/mile pace.
ran to training and back so did 8.5 miles tonight and over 4 of those good quality.
my legs were f
kED at the end
easy 5 miles tomorrow.
ran to training and back so did 8.5 miles tonight and over 4 of those good quality.
my legs were f
kED at the end easy 5 miles tomorrow.
Ran Cursa bombers at the weekend (10k run with 24k people in) As I am coming back from injury, I took it fairly easy, but was shocked when at 3k, I lost a shoe when someone stood on it. Found it again and carried on for a reasonable 39:10 which considering I was not even close to racing was not bad. TJQ also ran and did 47:24 which is her best 10k.
I've managed to run 3 days in a row! 
3 hilly runs of 30-45 mins each, left calf and achilles still tight but doing lots of heel raises on the stairs seems to sort it out. Running home from work today too.
I'd be interested in opinions of PH runners on the Lee Merrien Olympic Marathon selection controversy. Lee was the first Brit home in Sunday's London Marathon in 2:13 but missed out on the UKA A-standard of 2:12. UKA have selected Scott Overall (2:10 in Berlin) and Dave Webb (2:15 but top 20 at last year's World Champs which is deemd an A performance) and left the third place empty. Lee's time was a PB by nearly a minute, the second half run almost entirely alone, and he was 22nd in the World Champs last year. The IAAF A-standard is 2:15.
So UKA have decided not to field a full Marathon team in our home Olympics despite Lee being well inside the IAAF A-standard and with a history of decent performances in Championship races. Wrong decision IMO although it does follow their (tighter than IAAF) selection policy. Interestingly, I read a piece that said the marathon was the only event in which the UKA standard is tougher than the IAAF standard
3 hilly runs of 30-45 mins each, left calf and achilles still tight but doing lots of heel raises on the stairs seems to sort it out. Running home from work today too.
I'd be interested in opinions of PH runners on the Lee Merrien Olympic Marathon selection controversy. Lee was the first Brit home in Sunday's London Marathon in 2:13 but missed out on the UKA A-standard of 2:12. UKA have selected Scott Overall (2:10 in Berlin) and Dave Webb (2:15 but top 20 at last year's World Champs which is deemd an A performance) and left the third place empty. Lee's time was a PB by nearly a minute, the second half run almost entirely alone, and he was 22nd in the World Champs last year. The IAAF A-standard is 2:15.
So UKA have decided not to field a full Marathon team in our home Olympics despite Lee being well inside the IAAF A-standard and with a history of decent performances in Championship races. Wrong decision IMO although it does follow their (tighter than IAAF) selection policy. Interestingly, I read a piece that said the marathon was the only event in which the UKA standard is tougher than the IAAF standard
Edited by ewenm on Wednesday 25th April 09:02
Halb said:
Same here. Based on the data that says it increases your performance. I saw it on a science programme ages ago and then read up on it. But as you I couldn't handle more than a tiny glass, even the stuff mixed with apple juice, it was like drinking liquidized dirt.
Could you just eat some beetroot?Amateurish said:
Halb said:
Same here. Based on the data that says it increases your performance. I saw it on a science programme ages ago and then read up on it. But as you I couldn't handle more than a tiny glass, even the stuff mixed with apple juice, it was like drinking liquidized dirt.
Could you just eat some beetroot?The effects start within a week (you might not notice it needed a vo2max test in the thing I saw), but I suppose prolonged usage can only be a good thing. And beetroot has other benefits, my Gran made her own and was active into her late 90s.
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