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The Running Thread

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Use Psychology

11,327 posts

191 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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is there some kind of biomechanical difference between jogging and running? there is between running and walking, which is how we can distinguish them so easily. the fact we can't do this so easily for jogging/running suggest to me that any differences are limited.

m444ttb

3,160 posts

228 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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I always thought it was 'officially' a 10min/mile threshold between jogging and walking. Frankly I don't care though. If you aren't walking you're putting in more effort than most of the country!

E38Ross

34,946 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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m444ttb said:
I always thought it was 'officially' a 10min/mile threshold between jogging and walking. Frankly I don't care though. If you aren't walking you're putting in more effort than most of the country!
which would be the 6mph stated by the other chap.

agree on the 2nd comment

E38Ross

34,946 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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another trail shoe to throw into the mix

http://www.inov-8.com/New/Global/Product-View-XTal...

a much lighter one with just as good (if not better) off road grip but not as good on harder surfaces as the roclite's.....DECISIONS!

where is ewenm when you need him hehe

whilst searching for these i'm watching chelsea thrash QPR hehe

m444ttb

3,160 posts

228 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Missed the 6mph post. It's all just a bit of silly marketing fluff isn't it. It wants us to think 'I'm not a jogger! I'll prove it by buying those shoes'. The fact we're discussing it is probably playing the exact game they intended!

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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E38Ross said:
cookie118 said:
but it irks me when joggers say to me that they're better than me at running because they've done a marathon and I haven't)
rofl

i know what you mean. i tell them i train for 5k/10k and they ask "why don't you run a marathon, anyone can do 5 or 10k" to which i say "i know, but not many can do it as quick as i can" i'd be tempted to say "maybe you should tell kenenisa bekele that"
There's still something a bit epic about running a marathon. I mean, in a good time, not walking dressed as a cow. (although that's epic really)

I run and do triathlons but to me the long runs are a bit awesome. I dug deep doing a race today in the rain and wind and got a PB but it was only for 30 odd minutes. The thought of hurting like that for 26 miles fills me with fear. I'll definitely do a marathon soon but it's a big challenge.

"We are different, in essence, from other men. If you want to win something, run 100 meters. If you want to experience something, run a marathon."
Emil Zatopek

one more.

"It's at the borders of pain and suffering that the men are separated from the boys."
Emil Zatopek

I love these inspirational runners quotes. I get them emailed daily from runners world and try to remember them when i'm suffering. hehe


Edited by el stovey on Sunday 29th April 15:54

E38Ross

34,946 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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el stovey said:
I love these inspirational runners quotes. I get them emailed daily from runners world and try to remember them when i'm suffering. hehe


Edited by el stovey on Sunday 29th April 15:54
how do you sign up for those? biggrin

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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E38Ross said:
el stovey said:
I love these inspirational runners quotes. I get them emailed daily from runners world and try to remember them when i'm suffering. hehe
how do you sign up for those? biggrin
http://www.runnersworld.com/newsletter/0,7127,,00.html

Just click the Quote of the day option.

Here's one recently from the 'great runner' Bear Grylls. hehe

"There's no magic to running far or climbing Everest. Endurance is mental strength. It's all about heart. "

Bear Grylls, Adventurer and host of Man vs. Wild



anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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A couple more before you get your running shoes on. hehe

"A perfect run has nothing to do with distance. It's when your stride feels comfortable. You're on your toes trying to push it. Suddenly you realize you can open it up a bit more. You know you're at one with yourself and the environment. You're a little more alive than before you started. "

Sean Astin, actor

Sean Astin?

Anyway, I agree with him.

and

"Winning is not about headlines and hardware [medals]. It's only about attitude. A winner is a person who goes out today and every day and attempts to be the best runner and best person he can be. Winning is about struggle and effort and optimism, and never, ever, ever giving up."

Amby Burfoot, Editor-at-Large, Runner's World

m444ttb

3,160 posts

228 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Christ, if that popped into my head earlier when I was suffering I'd be thinking 'fk you Bear Grylls'. For some reason I don't like people shouting encouraging words at me! Running clearly turns me into a monster biggrin Soon as I finished I went to cheers on and encourage others lol

m444ttb

3,160 posts

228 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Christ, if that popped into my head earlier when I was suffering I'd be thinking 'fk you Bear Grylls'. For some reason I don't like people shouting encouraging words at me! Running clearly turns me into a monster biggrin Soon as I finished I went to cheers on and encourage others lol

E38Ross

34,946 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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hehe

this is an image i've had for a while, and IMO, it's oh-so-true



no more running for me today....i did over 10miles this morning in comical wind and rain. i LOVED it biggrin

took the weekly total to >40, 3 of those sessions good quality too, 2 short and steady and 1 long and steady

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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m444ttb said:
Christ, if that popped into my head earlier when I was suffering I'd be thinking 'fk you Bear Grylls'. For some reason I don't like people shouting encouraging words at me! Running clearly turns me into a monster biggrin Soon as I finished I went to cheers on and encourage others lol
When I was running today I heard some marshals shouting my name. I thought "how the fk do they know who I am"? then I realised it was on my race number. hehe I quite like it really.


OldJohnnyYen

1,455 posts

148 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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The weather today was the worst i've run, still managed the Manchester Marathon in my fastest time of 3:46, was hoping to get under 3:45 but I think the wind added a few minutes.

A guy skipped it quicker than me though frown

Highway Star

3,573 posts

230 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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E38Ross said:
another trail shoe to throw into the mix

http://www.inov-8.com/New/Global/Product-View-XTal...
They look very similar to my Mudclaws.

The shoes which have just had a rather eventful 9 mile run. Inspired by the 'MTFU' advice on here, I finished watching the cycling, got off my behind and went for a run. I figured that seeing as most of the fields were flooded, that the towpath by the canal would be the highest place to run. Which was right, except I had to cross the flooded fields to get there. Water at one point up to mid-thigh (would have been around Ross' neck wink ) and then had to jump back in to avoid some stampeding cattle, then at another point took evasive action through a bramble hedge to avoid a rather angry looking dog. Finally got home a little over an hour later totally soaked, covered in mud and with blood all down my legs - loved it!

The Inov-8s were brilliant, not a single problem, even better than proper XC spikes.

E38Ross

34,946 posts

211 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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rofl you cheeky bugger

just ordered a set of x-talon 212's biggrin guess i'll be hitting the trails next weekend!

Mark-C

5,010 posts

204 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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OldJohnnyYen said:
The weather today was the worst i've run, still managed the Manchester Marathon in my fastest time of 3:46, was hoping to get under 3:45 but I think the wind added a few minutes.

A guy skipped it quicker than me though frown
Good work - spoke to a friend earlier who got round in 4:12 and he said it was bloody horrible out there.

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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cookie118 said:
Pearl Izumi actually got in a bit of trouble for this ad campaign, but it's true in places: http://www.wearenotjoggers.com/book.html
Great advert. I'm super slow by most standards but I work hard. I usually look like I'm going to die when I finish. I do listen to music though, it helps me. I sometimes switch it off because when I'm on the quiet bits of my runs my breathing takes up the world. I do have a sprint out track for when I am running against a friend or in a race.biggrin

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Had a very good run today, 12 miles over some pretty rough trails with a group of 3 others. I felt really good over some of the wetter trails and was able to put distance into the other guys fairly easily. I generally find there is more grip/harder ground under the puddles, so I act like a 5 year old and splash through them hehe

Zatopek is a proper legend, the only person who has won the 5k, 10k and marathon in one Olympics and the father of modern interval training.

lost in espace

6,136 posts

206 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Back from the MK Marathon. Considering the weather I think I turned in a half decent time for me of 4hr 13mins. The marathon organisation was really stretched by the weather. Supporters were out in surprising numbers, but generally sheltering in underpasses which were flooded. The redways were also flooded, and it was akin to an assault course in parts where you had to dodge the huge deep puddles. Slippy underfoot in places, I think proceeding with it may have been a bit foolish on the organisers behalf but it was a proper challenge. No St Johns that I could see anywhere, and in places spectators were doing marshalls jobs. Massive loo queues in the stadium before hand, bag storage was a joke and at the end no silver blankets. I saw some girls looking poorly at the end.

Managed to avoid the wall by taking plenty of gels. The marshalls were bloody fantastic, crap goody bag. The worst bit was arriving in the Don's stadium and not being able to see any specific end to the marathon. You just crossed a chip detection strip and that was it.

The hills were all at 20 miles onward which was tough. I will probably do it again having said this as its fairly local.
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