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E38Ross
10,510 posts
81 months
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f  k sake. my garmin forerunner (the recently refurbished one) has died. took it running in the rain yesterday and last night i turned it on is would just randomly turn itself off. now it won't even turn on. came with 90 day warranty so should be within that. just annoying i have to pay to get it posted and be without it again for a few days, especially as i don't have another watch....timing myself on the track saturday is going to be annoying!!!!!!!!
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bales
1,905 posts
87 months
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Not posted for ages on here, I am in fairly good shape, had the best winter I have ever had in terms of consistency - touch wood - got my first 400m at Trafford open on Tuesday. Not sure what I expect to open up with, last year I opened with 49.5 and am much fitter this year but not done as much speed work yet so anything sub 50 will be fine.
Fairly moderate session on the track last night;
500m,400m,300m,200m with 6/8/6 minutes rest however all reps were either 100 fast 100 cruise or 150 fast 50 cruise to make it tougher than a standard session.
Times were 75,60,44,28 which is about right for this type of session.
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E38Ross
10,510 posts
81 months
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Merrien has been selected
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john2443
1,902 posts
80 months
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E38Ross said: Merrien has been selected It seems sensible to me that if we are allowed 3 runners, we put 3 in. I know it's a bit of a challenge to beat the africans, but it will never be easier to beat them with 2 than it will with 3, so as He met the Olympic quali standard, why not put him in?
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The jiffle king
Original Poster
2,885 posts
127 months
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E38Ross said: Merrien has been selected Just saw this, great news!
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E38Ross
10,510 posts
81 months
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Day off today, legs felt really tired last night just doing a (relatively) easy 6.5 mile fartlek with the group. no idea on pace as i sent the garmin off to be replaced....hope to get it back middle of next week if i'm lucky. someone has leant me a normal digital watch so i can at least time myself tomorrow for the session which is on the track and as follows.... 1 mile fast-ish but not too hard....around 5k pace or a bit slower then 5mins rest 5x400m off 60secs recovery at 1500m pace (been a while since i've done track races so i'm just going for anything under 72/400m) followed by a lovely and luxurious 10-15 minute rest then 5x200m at 800m pace....again, not sure what to pace myself at as it's been ages since i've done this stuff, i'll probably just aim for anything under 31-32s. i'll be on my own which won't make it easy but hopefully it won't piss it down like it did last week. done 3 weeks of 6 sessions per week and feeling a little weary....even walking up a couple of flights of steps had me feeling it a bit  might just do 5 sessions next week and miss out mondays easy circa 4 mile run perhaps, thoughts??
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lost in espace
3,357 posts
76 months
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My first marathon is on Sunday in MK. Conditions might be challenging, thinking of running in my gore-tex jacket! 50mph rain won't sting will it? 
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The jiffle king
Original Poster
2,885 posts
127 months
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lost in espace said: My first marathon is on Sunday in MK. Conditions might be challenging, thinking of running in my gore-tex jacket! 50mph rain won't sting will it? wishing you all the best. I would say enjoy it, but getting in a group and toughing it out might be a good option
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a boardman
1,168 posts
69 months
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Doing the fleetwood 10 mile run on sunday. Not aiming for much if i can get under 1:35 i will be happy.
Did 13.4 mile last sunday and so suffering from black big toe nail.
Just building up miles before i start a marathon programme in june for october marathon.
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m444ttb
1,362 posts
98 months
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I'm running the Highworth 5 mile race near Swindon on Sunday. Aiming for 35 mins, which I did manage on a test run. However heavy rain and 25mph wind may not help! Not sure quite where the wind will become an issue. Hopefully not during the first mile, although it's the most exposed part.
Due to the nature of the course I'm hoping to run splits roughly along these lines:
1. 6,30
2. 6,45
3. 6,45
4. 7,30
5. 7,30
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Mark-C
1,712 posts
74 months
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lost in espace said: My first marathon is on Sunday in MK. Conditions might be challenging, thinking of running in my gore-tex jacket! 50mph rain won't sting will it? I'm also signed up for this but more worried about whether I can run than the weather .... had a trapped nerve this week in my back and left leg seems to have no sense of direction! Did a Half in MK earlier in the year and it was cold, wet and windy then as well. It's a good place to run and I reckon (weather aside) a good place for a first marathon. Good luck 
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E38Ross
10,510 posts
81 months
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i had to do an emergency change of plan this morning as the wind down the back straight was like hitting a brick wall. still di my 1 mile at LT to start with....what felt like 5:30 pace was actually......5:55!!!!! honestly, it was THAT bad.
so instead of doing 5x400m reps at 1500m pace i did 8x300m, starting at the 200m mark, running the bend, home straight, then round the 100m round and then a 100m slow jog/walk recovery. was doing each 300m rep in 53 on the nose, quickest was a 52, slowest a 54. given i'd done VERY little 1500m speed work i felt (relatively) fine after those.
then had a 7-8 min break before doing 6x200m with 100m jog recovery (to miss the wind i started at 200m mark, ran to finish, ran back to 100m start and ran to 100m past the line, jogged back to 200m mark and so on. did each 200m in 31 with the last 2 being a 29.5 and then a 28.
was hard motivating myself, that first mile was demoralising....it was that windy! including a 2 mile warm up and 1 mile warm down i did around 7 miles total including the recoveries.
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Speckle
1,276 posts
85 months
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First run after London this morning. Calves and shins still quite sore so, just a gentle 5 miles in the end. It was nice to be out running again but, I probably need another couple of days rest I think.
Good luck to everyone running MK tomorrow, hope the weather eases a little for you.
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Mark-C
1,712 posts
74 months
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I'm definitely out of MK Marathon tomorrow. A quick trot around the block suggests that the 0.2 mile bit is fine but the other 26 is not a good idea. Osteopath booked for first thing Monday to get back and leg lined up and pointing in the right directions.
Very frustrating - was fairly sure (well as sure as you can be with this distance) that a return to running sub 3h 30m was on the cards.
Good luck to everyone who is doing it.
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lost in espace
3,357 posts
76 months
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Mark-C said: I'm definitely out of MK Marathon tomorrow. A quick trot around the block suggests that the 0.2 mile bit is fine but the other 26 is not a good idea. Osteopath booked for first thing Monday to get back and leg lined up and pointing in the right directions.
Very frustrating - was fairly sure (well as sure as you can be with this distance) that a return to running sub 3h 30m was on the cards.
Good luck to everyone who is doing it. Cheers Mark sorry about your injury but you are doing the right thing. Heavy rain, about 10 degrees and a headwind which swings around at the time when we start running south, so its a headwind all the way. My friend did the VLM in 4 hours after drinking 2 pints and a bottle of wine the night before, he is running tomorrow so I will see if I can beat him.
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iamrcb
523 posts
65 months
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Be warned, I have had a beer or two.........
I took up running a few years ago and do 2 to 3 runs a week (7 to 20k range) and I enjoy it tremendously.
It definitely frees up a bit of room for a good share of beer + chips and makes me appreciate my local area (urban to rural) a lot more. I've done about 20 races (10k to half marathons, trail and road) and have enjoyed them all. Even in my pokey south wales valley village I see a fair amount of runners, early morning and late night. Running must be more popular than ever?
But is it me or do "most" people seem capable of running a 10k, a very large amount of people capable of running a half and a lot of people are good for a marathon. i.e. is it really that special? I know there is a difference in finishing and running a good time but it seems that running is starting to be portrayed as "easy". Its not good enough to have done a marathon, but to have done 50 on the bounce is "really good"
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Is it just that runners notice other runners and their relative performance difference more, like drivers of Volvo 480 Turbo owners probably see more other Volvo 480 Turbo owners than everyone else!
I suppose when a couple of thousand turn up at a race, there are hundreds of thousands that couldn't or wouldn't want to be there, and are at home (usually at home, warm, in bed - lucky sods)
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E38Ross
10,510 posts
81 months
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There is a monumental difference between doing a race, and racing one.
Let people think it's easy. I shut people up by asking them to run as quick as I can. If they don't run VERY regularly, they won't be able to do it unless they are very fit or do lots of hard physical activity, and those are the people who understand.
My mate did a half not long ago and bragged about it. Fact is I would have been over 50 minutes ahead!
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spikeyhead
7,500 posts
66 months
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iamrcb said: Be warned, I have had a beer or two.........
I took up running a few years ago and do 2 to 3 runs a week (7 to 20k range) and I enjoy it tremendously.
It definitely frees up a bit of room for a good share of beer + chips and makes me appreciate my local area (urban to rural) a lot more. I've done about 20 races (10k to half marathons, trail and road) and have enjoyed them all. Even in my pokey south wales valley village I see a fair amount of runners, early morning and late night. Running must be more popular than ever?
But is it me or do "most" people seem capable of running a 10k, a very large amount of people capable of running a half and a lot of people are good for a marathon. i.e. is it really that special? I know there is a difference in finishing and running a good time but it seems that running is starting to be portrayed as "easy". Its not good enough to have done a marathon, but to have done 50 on the bounce is "really good"
or
Is it just that runners notice other runners and their relative performance difference more, like drivers of Volvo 480 Turbo owners probably see more other Volvo 480 Turbo owners than everyone else!
I suppose when a couple of thousand turn up at a race, there are hundreds of thousands that couldn't or wouldn't want to be there, and are at home (usually at home, warm, in bed - lucky sods)
I started running a few weeks ago, having not run in 20 years. I rather suspect that the cast majority know they can't run more than a mile.
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m444ttb
1,362 posts
98 months
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I'd be surprised if the average man can run a mile. Under 10 mins at least! I look around work and so many people clearly do no more exercise than it takes to get a massive coffee (then take the lift back to their floor!).
Anyhow, race day today. Highworth Running Club's annual 5 mile race. Small but popular locally easily filling up its 500 places. I suspect today may well see a good 1/4 missing though. The weather is awful! 2 hours until I hope to be well into the 2nd mile and it's heavy rain and very strong wind. The latter could really help if it's there to push you up the big hill at the end. So I've assumed it will be in my face instead lol
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cookie118
234 posts
23 months
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Ross has hit the nail on the head. There is a big difference between completion and competition. A marathon isn't too hard to complete in the 6-7 hour range (a 6 hour marathon requires an average of 13:44/mile or just beyond a brisk walk) but as soon as you start training for times it becomes a lot harder. Those who run under 4 hours are a whole world away from those who walk/jog in 6 hours, and equally 3 hours is another world away from 4 hours in terms of the training/talent required. In terms of portraying running as 'easy', there's been a lot of discussion on running boards about the shift in how running is portrayed to the general public as a participation event, where completion is the goal as opposed to serious competition. A marathon now seems to appear on people's bucket list as something to complete. That isn't to put down those who do a marathon for charity or to tick it off, but it irks me when someone thinks that completing a marathon is the be all and end all of a runner, which increasingly seems to be becoming the norm. Pearl Izumi actually got in a bit of trouble for this ad campaign, but it's true in places: http://www.wearenotjoggers.com/book.html(P.S: Apologies if I've got up on my high horse, but it irks me when joggers say to me that they're better than me at running because they've done a marathon and I haven't)
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