The Running Thread
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Cybertronian said:
Thanks all, well done to all the new PBs achieved over the weekend - Team GB eat your heart out!
I'm riding the runners' high out and have decided to enter the Bath Half Marathon for next March. Does anybody have any experience of this race? I've heard it's incredibly popular (London Marathon training) and can be a touch crowded for slower runners. The price, an overnight hotel stay and train tickets are already making me wince!
I traditionally do the Silverstone Half in March but my other half complained that she's getting bored of Silverstone and its limited surroundings.
Bath's my local half (I've finished 9th twice and 13th once). The course is fairly flat, the roads are completely shut for all of it but it is very popular, so can be crowded if you're in the masses. Being a 2 lap course means the crowd support is excellent. The OH can spend some time enjoying Bath too I'm riding the runners' high out and have decided to enter the Bath Half Marathon for next March. Does anybody have any experience of this race? I've heard it's incredibly popular (London Marathon training) and can be a touch crowded for slower runners. The price, an overnight hotel stay and train tickets are already making me wince!
I traditionally do the Silverstone Half in March but my other half complained that she's getting bored of Silverstone and its limited surroundings.
First session of winter schedule for me this morning.... I find it hard doing hard sessions in the morning, I had 2x1.6 miles at LT with 90secs rest between each (average about 5:50/mile then had a few mins off and then 4x200m at 1500m pace off 30secs rest. Felt hard to get motivated but it's the first bit of speed since my 5k over a week ago so will take time. No more speed until Saturday now easy 60mins tomorrow, easy 45min Wednesday morning and 30mins evening, easy 35 mins Thursday, day off Friday before speed Saturday and 70-80mins sunday.
After last weeks antics of too many puddings its trying to get back on the healthy stuff
Today was banana before the session, then a few shredded wheats with some raisins on top, a nectarine. For lunch I've had some aubergine, half an onion, half a red pepper, some mushrooms, garlic, baby corn, cherry tomatoes and some courgette all slow roasted with some boiled new potatoes, some lettuce and a tin of tuna..... Healthy or what eh
Not sure on dinner yet but think it's left over liver casserole with either brown rice or new potatoes.
Today was banana before the session, then a few shredded wheats with some raisins on top, a nectarine. For lunch I've had some aubergine, half an onion, half a red pepper, some mushrooms, garlic, baby corn, cherry tomatoes and some courgette all slow roasted with some boiled new potatoes, some lettuce and a tin of tuna..... Healthy or what eh
Not sure on dinner yet but think it's left over liver casserole with either brown rice or new potatoes.
I have entered the Bath half as well being relatively local to me. It was to be my first race but expect to do a half in December or January as practise.
I have seen various half marathon workshops/training days - has anyone done any as I don't know if they would be a good use of time or a waste of money. I am quite happy with putting in the effort in training so not sure what they add.
I have seen various half marathon workshops/training days - has anyone done any as I don't know if they would be a good use of time or a waste of money. I am quite happy with putting in the effort in training so not sure what they add.
ewenm said:
Bath's my local half (I've finished 9th twice and 13th once). The course is fairly flat, the roads are completely shut for all of it but it is very popular, so can be crowded if you're in the masses. Being a 2 lap course means the crowd support is excellent. The OH can spend some time enjoying Bath too
Wow. Incredible finish positions! I'm at about 1:45 - 1:50 at the moment so I should just be on the cusp of when the crowds start to filter through.Back on the road again.
You lot must be influencing me. Did a *sprint* session tonight...fook me Im dead. Did 2.4km out of 3km running and I was going quite a bit faster than previously...unforced! But God it hurt. Like a complete b
d it hurt. Walked half the next lap, then ran the end and then ran up the big fk off hill through the town walls and gate.
So just over 3klicks tonight to get back into the swing of things.
You lot must be influencing me. Did a *sprint* session tonight...fook me Im dead. Did 2.4km out of 3km running and I was going quite a bit faster than previously...unforced! But God it hurt. Like a complete b
d it hurt. Walked half the next lap, then ran the end and then ran up the big fk off hill through the town walls and gate.So just over 3klicks tonight to get back into the swing of things.
I did post this as a separate topic but think it maybe better answered on this thread....hopefully!
Just a quick question around mileage....albeit a complicated one to explain!
Prior to going on holiday I had been trail riding on my mountain bike (twice a week for around an hour per session) as well as running around 7 miles for 2 sessions (an hour each session)
However, when away on holiday I didn't have my bike, so I changed to running 3-4 sessions per week of 5 miles each. Over the duration of 16 days I ran 8 times, for 38 miles. (19 miles per week average)
Now I'm home, would it be ok to up my 2 sessions to 10 miles each for the running, whilst still doing the 2x1hr session on my MTB.
I know the rule is to increase mileage by 10%, so is this based on weekly mileage or per session? (if it's weekly, than I should be fine)
Cheers
Matt
Just a quick question around mileage....albeit a complicated one to explain!
Prior to going on holiday I had been trail riding on my mountain bike (twice a week for around an hour per session) as well as running around 7 miles for 2 sessions (an hour each session)
However, when away on holiday I didn't have my bike, so I changed to running 3-4 sessions per week of 5 miles each. Over the duration of 16 days I ran 8 times, for 38 miles. (19 miles per week average)
Now I'm home, would it be ok to up my 2 sessions to 10 miles each for the running, whilst still doing the 2x1hr session on my MTB.
I know the rule is to increase mileage by 10%, so is this based on weekly mileage or per session? (if it's weekly, than I should be fine)
Cheers
Matt
Did my 10k as part of a triathlon relay on Sunday. Would have liked a sub 50 but it turned out to be a completely off road trail, pretty hilly and also very hot so I was happy with my 55 min time in the end. New trainers seemed to be fine. Lower legs are a bit sore now but to be expected with a switch to zero drops.
Day off yesterday. After the triathlon bug hit we're now going to attempt a swim -spin - run session tonight to see how we get on.
Popped into my local running shop yesterday as my training partner was looking to replace his 4 years old shoes!! Had a few concerns with the guy though which I'm interested in some opinions on.
1st off when my mate asked if he could just try on a few pairs on the treadmill to get a feel for things the sales assistant was quite reluctant and explained that a gait analysis was £25 (free if a shoe is bought). Now I was shocked by this, effectively £25 to just try on some shoes and work out what you need. I guess it kind of makes sense to stop people getting checked and then buying online but it's something I've never encountered before and I've had gait analysis performed 3 times this year alone and not had to pay or buy shoes. Incidentally the only time I have bought shoes this year I didn't have gait analysis.
Secondly the assistant seemed pretty knowledgeable in terms of pronation and had my mate running in what looked evenly in a pronation shoe. What did concern me was that an no point during the fitting did he mention forefoot or heel striking and all his fitting and pronation advice was based completely on him heel striking. Now I'm very much a forefoot striker and well aware that it's a lengthy transition to make so was happy for my mate to go with a shoe that was recommended. Although I do still think that all the supportive and pronation shoes don't really address any technique issues but just hide them?
After the fitting my mate then asked if he could try some of te barefoot style shoes. Sales assistant then started talking about them and then mentioned that everyone heel strikes. At this point I raised my concern that not everyone heel strikes to which he replied well no not everyone but the majority do. He then explained how I'd you look at top runners they land on the forefoot then drop onto the heel which to him seems a lot less logical than landing direction the heel and pushing off te forefoot.
Couple this with my last visit to the Nike store where the fitter commented on my running with, "oh.. You land on your toes, that's weird, I've not seen that before"!
This has left me pretty concerned about he knowledge of these so called experts who recommend all these differed types of shoes. Do they really know what they are selling and why?
Apologies for the long post but I'd be interested in your opinions on it.
Thanks
Day off yesterday. After the triathlon bug hit we're now going to attempt a swim -spin - run session tonight to see how we get on.
Popped into my local running shop yesterday as my training partner was looking to replace his 4 years old shoes!! Had a few concerns with the guy though which I'm interested in some opinions on.
1st off when my mate asked if he could just try on a few pairs on the treadmill to get a feel for things the sales assistant was quite reluctant and explained that a gait analysis was £25 (free if a shoe is bought). Now I was shocked by this, effectively £25 to just try on some shoes and work out what you need. I guess it kind of makes sense to stop people getting checked and then buying online but it's something I've never encountered before and I've had gait analysis performed 3 times this year alone and not had to pay or buy shoes. Incidentally the only time I have bought shoes this year I didn't have gait analysis.
Secondly the assistant seemed pretty knowledgeable in terms of pronation and had my mate running in what looked evenly in a pronation shoe. What did concern me was that an no point during the fitting did he mention forefoot or heel striking and all his fitting and pronation advice was based completely on him heel striking. Now I'm very much a forefoot striker and well aware that it's a lengthy transition to make so was happy for my mate to go with a shoe that was recommended. Although I do still think that all the supportive and pronation shoes don't really address any technique issues but just hide them?
After the fitting my mate then asked if he could try some of te barefoot style shoes. Sales assistant then started talking about them and then mentioned that everyone heel strikes. At this point I raised my concern that not everyone heel strikes to which he replied well no not everyone but the majority do. He then explained how I'd you look at top runners they land on the forefoot then drop onto the heel which to him seems a lot less logical than landing direction the heel and pushing off te forefoot.
Couple this with my last visit to the Nike store where the fitter commented on my running with, "oh.. You land on your toes, that's weird, I've not seen that before"!
This has left me pretty concerned about he knowledge of these so called experts who recommend all these differed types of shoes. Do they really know what they are selling and why?
Apologies for the long post but I'd be interested in your opinions on it.
Thanks
InertialTooth45 said:
This has left me pretty concerned about he knowledge of these so called experts who recommend all these differed types of shoes. Do they really know what they are selling and why?
Some do, some don't. There are very few people who see retail as a career rather than a job, so for many it's just selling the product rather than really working out what the customer needs.Edit: I was chatting to my local running shop today and they are selling lots of "barefoot"/"foot glove" shoes to a wide variety of runners, experienced and new-comers.
Edited by ewenm on Tuesday 11th September 15:39
Just finished a great training session for the evening. Started off with an 800m swim. Followed by a spin class. Then out onto the running track for some efforts. Went with 5 x 1km. Rests inbetween were probably a little too long but that's something to work on.
My last competitive 5k time was 24:30 so I was pretty happy wih the pace and consistency of my efforts.
04:30
04:30
04:29
04:27
04:26
Third session in the new shoes. Feels like they were rubbing on the outside a bit by the end so I think just a few more shrter sessions to build up into them but other than that pretty happy.
My last competitive 5k time was 24:30 so I was pretty happy wih the pace and consistency of my efforts.
04:30
04:30
04:29
04:27
04:26
Third session in the new shoes. Feels like they were rubbing on the outside a bit by the end so I think just a few more shrter sessions to build up into them but other than that pretty happy.
Once I have got my mileage up I will need to start interval training, just need to get my distance up to a respectable level first.
On a plus point I shaved 3 minutes of my 8.5 k route this morning - load being the same.
The times/distance/ improvements are all quite addictive to keep on wanting to improve them.
On a plus point I shaved 3 minutes of my 8.5 k route this morning - load being the same.
The times/distance/ improvements are all quite addictive to keep on wanting to improve them.
ewenm said:
Some do, some don't. There are very few people who see retail as a career rather than a job, so for many it's just selling the product rather than really working out what the customer needs.
Edit: I was chatting to my local running shop today and they are selling lots of "barefoot"/"foot glove" shoes to a wide variety of runners, experienced and new-comers.
Well the sales assistant happened to be at the running track last night. He was lapping us pretty easily so I was reassured that he must have a good idea about things afterall. Well... That's what I thought until he came past me whilst toe striking!! Edit: I was chatting to my local running shop today and they are selling lots of "barefoot"/"foot glove" shoes to a wide variety of runners, experienced and new-comers.
Edited by ewenm on Tuesday 11th September 15:39
It's very hard to find the right shoes , a bit of trial and error involved along the way. I've always got along with Saucony trainers & currently using some which only cost £35 ish from Internet shop. I like them so much I have 2 new pairs in boxes in the wardrobe!. I was spending twice that for shoes in the early 1980s..
I did a hot and hilly 10k last Sunday in 40.15, was 1st over 50, first prize I won since school highjump in 1971!. Looking forward to flat Maidenhead half on Sunday, aiming for 1.27.30,
I did a hot and hilly 10k last Sunday in 40.15, was 1st over 50, first prize I won since school highjump in 1971!. Looking forward to flat Maidenhead half on Sunday, aiming for 1.27.30,
Not running the Great North but will be watching it on TV, cheering everybody on. Isn't Mo Farah meant to be facing off against Haile Gebrselassie in the race? If I were a gambling man, my money would go on Haile since he has the experience of distance but then Mo is younger and has untapped potential for speed.
Cybertronian said:
Not running the Great North but will be watching it on TV, cheering everybody on. Isn't Mo Farah meant to be facing off against Haile Gebrselassie in the race? If I were a gambling man, my money would go on Haile since he has the experience of distance but then Mo is younger and has untapped potential for speed.
Geb has pulled out injured and Farah has changed to the two-mile race on the Saturday.But London 2012 10,000m winner Tirunesh Dibaba is back in after initially withdrawing.
Edited by uk66fastback on Thursday 13th September 11:27
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