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The Running Thread

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944fan

4,962 posts

186 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Blackpuddin said:
D1bram said:
What is putting you off the Garmin?
Quite a lot of neg reviews on Amazon, various faults, early breakdowns etc.
I have heard of a few negative reviews on various forums. But I have had a Forerunner 301 for about 4 years, bought it second hand off ebay and its fine.

Occasionally the watch looses communication with the HR sensor. The GPS works great and I have worn it over a know race distance and it shows to be 100% accurate. The GPS takes about a minute to warm up before it registers a correct reading but that's it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Tim330 said:
Thanks, it has taken a year! The 1st time I ran one last September I ran in 21:15. I wasn't new to running then but have increased the no. of runs over the last year. Target 19 mins for next September although I think this will be much harder.
It can be done, got mine down from 21.05 to 18.50 in the last year & I'm 50.. Running every day since February & losing 25lbs has helped!

E38Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Jimboka said:
Tim330 said:
Thanks, it has taken a year! The 1st time I ran one last September I ran in 21:15. I wasn't new to running then but have increased the no. of runs over the last year. Target 19 mins for next September although I think this will be much harder.
It can be done, got mine down from 21.05 to 18.50 in the last year & I'm 50.. Running every day since February & losing 25lbs has helped!
fair play!!!!

Tim330

1,130 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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E38Ross said:
Jimboka said:
Tim330 said:
Thanks, it has taken a year! The 1st time I ran one last September I ran in 21:15. I wasn't new to running then but have increased the no. of runs over the last year. Target 19 mins for next September although I think this will be much harder.
It can be done, got mine down from 21.05 to 18.50 in the last year & I'm 50.. Running every day since February & losing 25lbs has helped!
fair play!!!!
I'm 31 so no excuses then

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Tim330 said:
I'm 31 so no excuses then
None at all - you should be out running now & not sitting around!

Highway Star

3,576 posts

232 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Jimboka said:
It can be done, got mine down from 21.05 to 18.50 in the last year & I'm 50.. Running every day since February & losing 25lbs has helped!
Great stuff! I'm starting from 20.02 and am 35. If I can get anywhere near 18.50 I'll be well chuffed. Going to do a hill session tomorrow and break out my winter shoes!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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First cross country race of the year, and a DNF. My asthma 'went off' and I couldn't control my vreathing t a reasonable level, so pulledoff about 1/2 way through. I HATE having a DNF but in this case it couldn't really be helped.
At least I found out that the first Gwent League is not next weekend as I thought but is in fact the 21st Oct, so enough time to get some reasonable shape together.

AM04ARO

3,642 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Did a longer run of 15k today. Struggling with a thigh strain since Wednesday and thought I could run though it which I did but hurts now.

Looks like I will be resting for a few days.

InertialTooth45

2,111 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th September 2012
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It's been 2 weeks since I last ran due to lower calf injuries but am feeling good again now so will get out for a few miles either today or tomorrow. Have been out on the bike and in the pool to keep the fitness up though.
Lost 2 kilos, aiming for another 2 before my next half marathon in 2 weeks! Have also just signed up to hellrun!!

Berlin Mike

266 posts

198 months

Sunday 30th September 2012
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I've been away from the site but it's time I posted again. I did the Berlin Marathon today and managed to do a new personal best! 2:54:12!!! Well pleased with the result.

The weather was perfect, sunny but cool and not too windy. My training has gone well, the pre-race preparation was pretty good except for having a nagging needing a pee feeling for the first 25 km or so. Good support from Mrs. BM and quite a lot of Brits were round the course cheering (helps having a Union Jack vest) - I would recommend this for any races abroad.

I have a handy tip for any marathon runners about training/feeding along the way. I have managed a few sub-3-hour marathons but in the last year and a half, I've run out of steam at 30-35 km. I had been training by doing long runs of 35 km and eating power gels at about km 25. This appears to have been a big mistake. It seems to be important NOT to eat on the training runs, so your body gets used to taking its energy out of energy stores, rather than out of the stomach. When you train, you are not running at full power and there is blood enough in the stomach to digest stuff, in my case the power gels. When it's the real competition, there is no blood left after driving the legs, arms and perhaps a bit of brain so these reserves cannot be tapped.
So for my race today, I just drank water in training. Just before the race, I ate a power gel and drank about half a pint of water. In the race I drank a bit of water at each water point and ate another power gel at about km 28. OK, I was getting knackered at about km 35 but kept the pressure on to the finish.

The gel bit may be long-winded but perhaps it'll help someone.

Mike

E38Ross

35,100 posts

213 months

Sunday 30th September 2012
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Easy 12 miles this morning at 7:09/mile. Felt lovely, ran with a mate and felt fresh as a daisy when finishing and took no fluids etc on board. Took around 85mins iirc. Next week Sundays run is 90.

Easy 60mins tomorrow.

Locke

1,279 posts

185 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Berlin Mike said:
I did the Berlin Marathon today and managed to do a new personal best! 2:54:12!!!
Mike
Great time, Well done!

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Impressive finishing time! Glad it went well for you. Gutted BBC didn't show any coverage of it.

944fan

4,962 posts

186 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Does anyone on here run with heavy gear, more specifically weight vests or does anyone know if there are potential benefits to doing so?

When I started running a few months back I was a massive fatty, I've since lost almost 2 stone. I can now run further and faster than I could and no doubt some of that is just due to running but loosing the weight made it easier.

I wondered if artificially adding some of that weight back during training would have any benefit when it came to races, or help me loose the rest of the weight I need to quicker?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Berlin Mike said:
The gel bit may be long-winded but perhaps it'll help someone.

Mike
ran the bristol half yesterday in 1:44.51 so a new pb which i was pleased with. totally get the gel point, i never train with them put do drink a sports drink in the gym or out running. so I had just the one gel (torq - black cherry yoghurt flavour) yesterday at 9 miles was enough for a very helpful dose that saw me through. noticebale how easy it made the next few miles.

also ran with an ipod for the first time, people said "oh you cant hear yourself breathing" and other things but at 8 min/mile pace, for me i dont think they were relevant. made a playlist and got it spot on, at 11 miles when the Rizzle Kicks came on I bounced along for five minutes...

they changed the last two miles of the route from last year but that last bit is still rubbish....

V-spec

759 posts

252 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Berlin Mike: Congrats on the time. I know a few others who were there, my training partner ran a 2.58, his first mara after a meniscus operation last November.

I'm interested in the gel theory. I guess you tested the plan beforehand? I'm a bit wary of not practicing it, then taking something just before a race, in case of unintended consequences. I prefer using a "lighter" gel (Squeezy currently the best for me) and taking them early - before 10km even - and more often.

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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I'd suggest that gel usage isn't necessary for long slow runs, but a key part of marathon training is long marathon race-pace runs. I'd be trying to replicate everything in these, including gels/fuel/water intake so nothing is a surprise on the day. I found that Lucozade Sport really didn't sit well for me so had to work out a different strategy as my target marathon provided Lucozade Sport stations which were useless to me.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Enter the worlds fastest half here.

http://www.bhf.org.uk/get-involved/events/view-eve...

InertialTooth45

2,111 posts

188 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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944fan said:
Does anyone on here run with heavy gear, more specifically weight vests or does anyone know if there are potential benefits to doing so?

When I started running a few months back I was a massive fatty, I've since lost almost 2 stone. I can now run further and faster than I could and no doubt some of that is just due to running but loosing the weight made it easier.

I wondered if artificially adding some of that weight back during training would have any benefit when it came to races, or help me loose the rest of the weight I need to quicker?
I remember asking pretty much the exact same thing a while back. I think the general consensus was that unless you are training to specifically carry something then the extra weight is just adding risk of injuring yourself. I wasn't entirely convinced but can understand the thoughts.
I trained with upto about 4 kilos for the 3 peaks, that pretty much was just water, a bit of food, and a jumper. Any more and it started getting too uncomfortable to do any real speed.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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ewenm said:
I'd suggest that gel usage isn't necessary for long slow runs, but a key part of marathon training is long marathon race-pace runs. I'd be trying to replicate everything in these, including gels/fuel/water intake so nothing is a surprise on the day. I found that Lucozade Sport really didn't sit well for me so had to work out a different strategy as my target marathon provided Lucozade Sport stations which were useless to me.
interestingly, bristol half organisers had high5 gels instead of energy drinks stations but water stations about 500m after the gel stations. lots of people were taking the gels and i did wonder how many were doing so for the first time. high5 is a watery gel unlike zipvit for example but even so, i was glad i wasnt after an energy drink on the day.
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