The Running Thread
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ewenm said:
Is it worth it? There are HMs all over the country most weekends (and it is only a small country really) so it may be wise to wait until you're properly fit rather than risk further aggravation by racing this weekend.
The company I work for are the main sponsor, it's the event I've been building up to all year. It's not ideal but I'm at least going to start and see how I feel, I'll take it easy and if there are any problems I'll pull out.I've never been much of a runner, but have done it before quite regularly. After a fair bit of time without having been for a run, last weekend I got my trainers out and went on a short 4 miler. I found that I was getting some pretty bad lower back pain, along with some shoulder pain. Does anyone else experience these?
Cybertronian said:
Good points.
My training runs are accurate in that I do not stop my watch and purposely avoid busy junctions to slow me down. My runs actually follow the course closely including the downhill start and the hills from mile 10, though cutting out the middleway bits etc. These have all been done purposely slower than race pace too.
I am tempted by your conservative approach, with the aim of a PB still being a PB. 8:20 per mile and anything left in the tank after the hills can be utilised.
Decisions, decisions...
just my tuppence worth but if you think you can speed up throughout the race to the point that you are running 7.30 min/miles after ten miles, starting off slowly sounds like a false economy to me and it also sounds like you should just run around 8 min/miles for the entire duration and it really wont be a struggle. My training runs are accurate in that I do not stop my watch and purposely avoid busy junctions to slow me down. My runs actually follow the course closely including the downhill start and the hills from mile 10, though cutting out the middleway bits etc. These have all been done purposely slower than race pace too.
I am tempted by your conservative approach, with the aim of a PB still being a PB. 8:20 per mile and anything left in the tank after the hills can be utilised.
Decisions, decisions...
that way you can run at a consistent pace and not have to fret about when you accelerate, when you have to hold a pace, what to do if you dont feel well etc etc. just keep yourself on hte 8 min/mile pace knowing that you dont need to speed up is a huge psychological bonus.
i tried running a half at multiple paces once and it was a disaster, i was a releatvely inexperienced runner and all over the place both in terms of time and comfort.
TomJackUK said:
I've never been much of a runner, but have done it before quite regularly. After a fair bit of time without having been for a run, last weekend I got my trainers out and went on a short 4 miler. I found that I was getting some pretty bad lower back pain, along with some shoulder pain. Does anyone else experience these?
I get lower back pain generally anyway but it used to come on after a long run. Make sure you do plenty of stretching after your run, particularly hamstrings, glutes etc. Work on your core a couple to three days a week also as a weak core will hurt your back.The shoulder pain might just be weakness in the arms, do some resistance training as well to strengthen the area
I sometimes get shoulder pain on long runs (during, not after). Someone suggested an exercise to try where you run with your hands palm up in front as if you're a waiter balancing a tray at chest height. I find it improves my form by forcing my back up straighter and has solved the problem. I also get occasional twinges in lower back, hip flexors, ITB, knees etc when I neglect the core work - easily fixed though.
Anyone using Strava to upload their runs? I discovered it a few weeks ago and am very glad I did.
Anyone using Strava to upload their runs? I discovered it a few weeks ago and am very glad I did.
Chaps,
This has just dropped into my inbox via the old boys association of my alma mater. I thought it would be of interest to some of you, hell, some of you may even of known the bloke.
Former Pupils in Epic Charity Challenge – The Ben Trend Ultra 2013
It's challenge time for four former pupils, as some Old Lidunians and Old Arnoldians combine their efforts to raise money for a superb local sporting charity.
Old Lidunians Mark Evans, Matthew Wilkinson and Aodhan Carson, and Old Arnoldian Jeavon Trend, will be taking on the daunting Ben Trend Ultra 2013 next August to raise funds for the wonderful Ben Trend Get Involved Foundation. To the AKS community, Mark Evans is better known as our very own Mr Evans, PE teacher and U15 rugby coach.
The Ben Trend Get Involved Foundation was formed following Ben's death in 2010, the idea being to provide funding each year to support individuals and/or organisations involved in sport in the Blackpool and the Fylde area where Ben grew up, and also in the South West of London, where Ben lived for the last eight years of his life.
Ben was born in Blackpool in March 1980. Following schooling at Arnold Junior and Senior Schools, Ben studied sports science with psychology at the University of Gloucestershire. Having gained his degree, he moved to London to work in the fitness industry, where he met his wife, Verena. He died in a tragic accident whilst on holiday in South Africa with Ve and several friends in April 2010, just after his 30th birthday.
Ben was actively involved in sport all his life; having enjoyed football, rugby, cricket and athletics at school, he continued to play rugby for Blackpool RUFC and Fylde RFC until moving to London in 2002. Unable to play team sports due to his work schedules as a personal trainer, Ben started to compete in endurance events, beginning with the New York marathon in 2003, which he ran with his brother and father. He continued with other marathons: Paris, Rome, Dublin (with his wife, Ve), Auckland (New Zealand), Blackpool, Edinburgh, Khon Kaen (Thailand), Box Hill (allegedly Britain's hardest) and then onto double marathons such as the Thames Meander and 24 hour runs, such as the Thunder Run.
In 2007 Ben completed the Marathon des Sables, 151 miles through the Sahara desert in 6 days. In 2009 Ben completed the Ultra Trail de Mont Blanc, 104 miles through three countries around Mont Blanc in under 46 hours. In 2010, two weeks before his untimely death, he completed the "world's most beautiful marathon", the Two Oceans marathon in Cape Town.
So, in honour of what Ben was all about, our former pupils, who were all rugby team-mates of Ben’s, will be running a non-stop paired relay from two parts of the country which meant so much to Ben. On Friday 2nd August at 1200 they will start at the Fit 8 Sports Centre in Wimbledon Village, London, and they will attempt to run non-stop to Fylde RFC in exactly 48 hours, finishing by 1200 on Sunday 4th August.
One pair will run 10 miles whilst the other pair rests and then the pairs will swop over. This will mean, injuries aside, that each of the team will run a minimum of 130 miles without any sleep in 48 hours. The running distance from London to Fylde will be approximately 260 miles.
So there is little doubt - THIS IS DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE!
A dedicated website will soon be live, allowing people who would like to support the boys to make donations, and details of the route that the team will be running will be released in the near future. People who would like to run sections of the route with the boys are more than welcome and there is little doubt that any support along the way in any form will be completely invaluable.
More information will be released over the course of the next few weeks. We hope people will be able to support both the Foundation and the boys as they attempt to raise money for this fabulous cause.
To read more about the Foundation please visit www.bentrendgetinvolved.com
This has just dropped into my inbox via the old boys association of my alma mater. I thought it would be of interest to some of you, hell, some of you may even of known the bloke.
Former Pupils in Epic Charity Challenge – The Ben Trend Ultra 2013
It's challenge time for four former pupils, as some Old Lidunians and Old Arnoldians combine their efforts to raise money for a superb local sporting charity.
Old Lidunians Mark Evans, Matthew Wilkinson and Aodhan Carson, and Old Arnoldian Jeavon Trend, will be taking on the daunting Ben Trend Ultra 2013 next August to raise funds for the wonderful Ben Trend Get Involved Foundation. To the AKS community, Mark Evans is better known as our very own Mr Evans, PE teacher and U15 rugby coach.
The Ben Trend Get Involved Foundation was formed following Ben's death in 2010, the idea being to provide funding each year to support individuals and/or organisations involved in sport in the Blackpool and the Fylde area where Ben grew up, and also in the South West of London, where Ben lived for the last eight years of his life.
Ben was born in Blackpool in March 1980. Following schooling at Arnold Junior and Senior Schools, Ben studied sports science with psychology at the University of Gloucestershire. Having gained his degree, he moved to London to work in the fitness industry, where he met his wife, Verena. He died in a tragic accident whilst on holiday in South Africa with Ve and several friends in April 2010, just after his 30th birthday.
Ben was actively involved in sport all his life; having enjoyed football, rugby, cricket and athletics at school, he continued to play rugby for Blackpool RUFC and Fylde RFC until moving to London in 2002. Unable to play team sports due to his work schedules as a personal trainer, Ben started to compete in endurance events, beginning with the New York marathon in 2003, which he ran with his brother and father. He continued with other marathons: Paris, Rome, Dublin (with his wife, Ve), Auckland (New Zealand), Blackpool, Edinburgh, Khon Kaen (Thailand), Box Hill (allegedly Britain's hardest) and then onto double marathons such as the Thames Meander and 24 hour runs, such as the Thunder Run.
In 2007 Ben completed the Marathon des Sables, 151 miles through the Sahara desert in 6 days. In 2009 Ben completed the Ultra Trail de Mont Blanc, 104 miles through three countries around Mont Blanc in under 46 hours. In 2010, two weeks before his untimely death, he completed the "world's most beautiful marathon", the Two Oceans marathon in Cape Town.
So, in honour of what Ben was all about, our former pupils, who were all rugby team-mates of Ben’s, will be running a non-stop paired relay from two parts of the country which meant so much to Ben. On Friday 2nd August at 1200 they will start at the Fit 8 Sports Centre in Wimbledon Village, London, and they will attempt to run non-stop to Fylde RFC in exactly 48 hours, finishing by 1200 on Sunday 4th August.
One pair will run 10 miles whilst the other pair rests and then the pairs will swop over. This will mean, injuries aside, that each of the team will run a minimum of 130 miles without any sleep in 48 hours. The running distance from London to Fylde will be approximately 260 miles.
So there is little doubt - THIS IS DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE!
A dedicated website will soon be live, allowing people who would like to support the boys to make donations, and details of the route that the team will be running will be released in the near future. People who would like to run sections of the route with the boys are more than welcome and there is little doubt that any support along the way in any form will be completely invaluable.
More information will be released over the course of the next few weeks. We hope people will be able to support both the Foundation and the boys as they attempt to raise money for this fabulous cause.
To read more about the Foundation please visit www.bentrendgetinvolved.com
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t session for me this arvo.
4.8 miles @ 5:55/mile (was pretty windy, but just felt absolutely st the whole way round when i should be doing that pace for at least twice that distance in a race).
then 4x200m off 30secs rest. not sure on the splits for those but they weren't quick enough. i haven't had a day off running for 8 days now i think so perhaps that's why i just felt like garbage
t session for me this arvo.4.8 miles @ 5:55/mile (was pretty windy, but just felt absolutely s
t the whole way round when i should be doing that pace for at least twice that distance in a race). then 4x200m off 30secs rest. not sure on the splits for those but they weren't quick enough. i haven't had a day off running for 8 days now i think so perhaps that's why i just felt like garbage
Latest MarathonTalk podcast out now too. Excellent free resource!
ewenm said:
Latest MarathonTalk podcast out now too. Excellent free resource!
They have a Facebook page too. Dorking LWDA founders challenge marathon distance on sunday for me.Track session tonight
4x1k off 3 mins, a little fast for this point of the season but an ok sharpener and a good chance to get a run out with the group. Splits were 3:01, 2:59, 2:56 and 3:05, I pushed the 2nd last one but suffered a little on the last one because of it. I reckon I traded 3 secs faster in the penultimate one for 6 secs slower in the final rep.
Heading for 50 miles this week, not bad but 60 should be my regular tally in a couple of weeks.
4x1k off 3 mins, a little fast for this point of the season but an ok sharpener and a good chance to get a run out with the group. Splits were 3:01, 2:59, 2:56 and 3:05, I pushed the 2nd last one but suffered a little on the last one because of it. I reckon I traded 3 secs faster in the penultimate one for 6 secs slower in the final rep.
Heading for 50 miles this week, not bad but 60 should be my regular tally in a couple of weeks.
Easy 5 miles with the club last night after 30 minutes of hill reps on Tuesday and swimming sessions Monday and Wednesday.
Was thinking about the Parkrun tomorrow, but probably will give it a miss, back has been a bit sore this week and not having a chance to stretch before last night's run has left it pretty stiff today and I don't want an early morning run tomorrow to aggravate it.
So, tomorrow will be an hour steady off road over the fields and along the canal in the afternoon, then swim on Monday, pyramid interval session Tuesday and then op on Wednesday which'll mean no running or swimming for 3 weeks
Edit to add: Just seen this http://www.worcester-ac.co.uk/entryforms/2012/Beac...
Think I might give it a go tomorrow afternoon!
Was thinking about the Parkrun tomorrow, but probably will give it a miss, back has been a bit sore this week and not having a chance to stretch before last night's run has left it pretty stiff today and I don't want an early morning run tomorrow to aggravate it.
So, tomorrow will be an hour steady off road over the fields and along the canal in the afternoon, then swim on Monday, pyramid interval session Tuesday and then op on Wednesday which'll mean no running or swimming for 3 weeks
Edit to add: Just seen this http://www.worcester-ac.co.uk/entryforms/2012/Beac...
Think I might give it a go tomorrow afternoon!
Edited by Highway Star on Friday 12th October 12:43
944fan said:
Was away on business in Sheffield yesterday. Went for a 35 min tempo run but wasn't prepared for the amount of hills 
Knackered today after that.
Great isn't it. I was at University in Sheffield and soon discovered there are no flat bits. You are either running up a hill or down a hill. There are some real stonkers if you get out beyond Hunters Bar / Endcliffe Park.Knackered today after that.
I think it's about time I got some new running shoes. I've had the same ones now for nearly a year which I use for everything and they were only cheap ones to begin with (£18 Puma Ikons 2 from Sprots Direct)
I went to my local sports shop the other day (the ones that have recently called the administrators) to get an analysis done as my current trainers have worn quite a bit on the outside edge of both heels.
When I was at the store I didn't have my running trainers with me and actually got mixed up and told the guy doing it that the inside of my heels were worn on my current shoes, he didn't pick up on this at all and actually agreed that I was landing on the inside of my foot by very inaccurately drawing these lines all over on the screen when in fact the soles of my current shoes suggest otherwise, I really didn't have to much confidence in this member of staff as he wasn't doing things very precisely and he just seemed determined to sell me these insoles at £25.
Pic of my shoes
Could anyone recommend me a decent place to go for analysis in West Yorkshire? Or alternatively recommend me some shoes that would help me based on the wear pattern of my current shoes as I'd rather not go back for another analysis at all if possible.
The shoe I want is a decent all rounder that I can use for anything from a Parkrun to 10 mile + training run.
My budget is about £60ish
Thanks in advance for any replies.
I went to my local sports shop the other day (the ones that have recently called the administrators) to get an analysis done as my current trainers have worn quite a bit on the outside edge of both heels.
When I was at the store I didn't have my running trainers with me and actually got mixed up and told the guy doing it that the inside of my heels were worn on my current shoes, he didn't pick up on this at all and actually agreed that I was landing on the inside of my foot by very inaccurately drawing these lines all over on the screen when in fact the soles of my current shoes suggest otherwise, I really didn't have to much confidence in this member of staff as he wasn't doing things very precisely and he just seemed determined to sell me these insoles at £25.
Pic of my shoes
Could anyone recommend me a decent place to go for analysis in West Yorkshire? Or alternatively recommend me some shoes that would help me based on the wear pattern of my current shoes as I'd rather not go back for another analysis at all if possible.
The shoe I want is a decent all rounder that I can use for anything from a Parkrun to 10 mile + training run.
My budget is about £60ish
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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