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Tirus

1,541 posts

120 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Wife is going to run in the 5K Race for Life in aid of Cancer this weekend. She has never ran before & she has been training/learning over the past 2/3 months & she's managed 6k in 25minutes ,though the time is unimportant as you can walk the distance if you choose.She has been running with the "Sole Sister's" once a week & every other day with friends, as it is just a few days away should she now run every night up to the race or carry on the same ?? Thanks.

RizzoTheRat

25,165 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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Tirus said:
Wife is going to run in the 5K Race for Life in aid of Cancer this weekend. She has never ran before & she has been training/learning over the past 2/3 months & she's managed 6k in 25minutes ,though the time is unimportant as you can walk the distance if you choose.She has been running with the "Sole Sister's" once a week & every other day with friends, as it is just a few days away should she now run every night up to the race or carry on the same ?? Thanks.
Bloody hell, I started running a year ago and can't do 5k in that time! If she has a routine she's used and works for her stick with it, don't change to an untried routine just before a race.

lost in espace

6,161 posts

207 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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My running club, Garden City Runners, won the mixed class at the Endure 24. Looked like hell, but they all said they loved it. Apart from the tired drive home.

I ran the inaugural Welwyn 10k on Saturday in 46.10, a bit hilly. In the afternoon I ran the final leg 4.5 mile leg of the Greensands Ridge Relay. On Sunday I completed the Herts Stroller trail marathon courtesy of the LDWA, in 4.25. And on Tuesday night I ran the final point scoring leg of the mid week league at St Albans but missed my PB by 12 seconds, 10k in 44.12.

About a couple of weeks ago someone mentioned that the London marathon good for age limits were reduced, and I mistakenly thought I could enter, but I had got a little confused between the ladies and gents times. Anyway I sent off my entry, and realised afterwards I was not entitled to a place. I am not sure if they had spare places, but I was accepted today. I went last year to watch and said I wouldn't do it as it was so busy, but I suppose it is one that every marathon runner has to do.

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Thursday 3rd July 2014
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knight said:
Reading all your posts just goes to show how much of a long way I have to go! My last run was 5.3 miles in 50 mins. But in my defence I only started going to the gym in jan this year and running since about April, before that I was doing no exercise, and starting at 42 was a bit of a shock to the system!!
Sorry for a long-winded post here.....

As above, it's all relative.

In the group I was training with, out of around 17-18 runners I was quicker than......2, even when I was running those times. The lead runner was around 30:00 for a 10k; yet I could have gone to another group and been the fastest.

That 30min 10k runner could go up against Kenenisa Bekele in his prime and he'd look like a laughing stock. There are some very good runners in my group and From the end of 2012 until around Dec 2013 I didn't train at all with them, as injury, then sickness and being way too slow meant it just wasn't a viable option.

I'm hoping to up my base miles over the coming months and just hoping my stomach issue sorts itself out (I wasn't sick today, my first day of not being sick for around 3 weeks). Basically , it gives me some hope like that and then it'll start all over again....been like it since mid April now and I reckon overall I've had around 10 days in that period where I haven't been sick (at the most).

I know, however, from Sept/October-Feb just gone that it shouldn't take me toooooo long to get back to reasonable shape. I started eating unhealthily when this problem came back as I couldn't be arsed to spend ages cooking decent food, I felt rubbish in myself so ate lots of chocolate etc etc but the past 2 weeks I've been very, very good and I'm already feeling better in myself (but the stomach isn't in general).

I'll admit I'm a little depressed about it but I'm trying my utmost to ensure it doesn't stop me running altogether. I don't run for fitness or health especially (though it's a large part of it) but I run simply for the love of running. When training at my peak I didn't always enjoy those hard speed/speed endurance sessions, those early morning runs in the freezing cold and pissing rain before 6am, the running before and after work (12 hour days, especially), those runs where you just KNOW immediately you're going to be slow and feel awful, the long, lonely runs in the bleak mid-winter....But I kept pushing through those times for a few small reasons.....Turning up to races and running decent times/PBs etc knowing that you've EARNED that time and once you've done it....no single person can take that achievement away and, more importantly those runs where the weather is perfect, the sun is shining, you're in a place with lovely scenery, you're either with a few good mates or on your own away from any troubles, just you and your mind, you get into a groove and just run, and run, and run and just feel fantastic. It is those times I cherish so much, and currently sorely miss. That desire has never once wilted in my past 11-12 years of running (by far the longest time I've stuck with a sport).

I vow that I will try my best to get back to my former ability and hopefully beyond it. I'm only 25 so before my peak so I do have time, but I need this sickness to disappear first.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that no matter what your pace, ability, goal, schedule etc in running if you enjoy it, then who gives a flying fk how quick you are.

Sorry for the long post!!

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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E65Ross said:
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I suppose what I'm trying to say is that no matter what your pace, ability, goal, schedule etc in running if you enjoy it, then who gives a flying fk how quick you are.

Sorry for the long post!!
Too right! The first priority is enjoyment, then goals.

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

163 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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lost in espace said:
About a couple of weeks ago someone mentioned that the London marathon good for age limits were reduced, and I mistakenly thought I could enter, but I had got a little confused between the ladies and gents times. Anyway I sent off my entry, and realised afterwards I was not entitled to a place. I am not sure if they had spare places, but I was accepted today. I went last year to watch and said I wouldn't do it as it was so busy, but I suppose it is one that every marathon runner has to do.
Well done! Don't ask, don't get after all. If you get a good for age place, you get a slightly different start area to the masses, so you can get a good stab at it rather than getting caught up behind people that have over-egged their time.

UpTheIron

3,996 posts

268 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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lost in espace said:
About a couple of weeks ago someone mentioned that the London marathon good for age limits were reduced, and I mistakenly thought I could enter, but I had got a little confused between the ladies and gents times. Anyway I sent off my entry, and realised afterwards I was not entitled to a place. I am not sure if they had spare places, but I was accepted today. I went last year to watch and said I wouldn't do it as it was so busy, but I suppose it is one that every marathon runner has to do.
A timely reminder - entry in just in time, although I have a feeling I'll be doing it as a recovery run as considering doing Manchester the week before!

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Managed to sneak out for a cheeky 4.5 miles this morning. I didn't realise we didn't have a receptionist until 9:30 so I got here ready to start at 8:30 meant I had a spare hour. So did a run, got showered etc all in time to start a sunny day. 7:16/mile and didn't feel too bad, relatively steady but glad I wore a vest not a tshirt.

RizzoTheRat

25,165 posts

192 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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ewenm said:
E65Ross said:
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I suppose what I'm trying to say is that no matter what your pace, ability, goal, schedule etc in running if you enjoy it, then who gives a flying fk how quick you are.

Sorry for the long post!!
Too right! The first priority is enjoyment, then goals.
Spot on, one of the things I love about running is the lack of one-upmanship. I did 1:05:19 on a 10k the other day, a personal best that I was pretty happy with (I was aiming for <1:05 so pretty happy rather than ecstatic) and only the third time I've run that distance. Plenty of our club who'd finished 15-20 minutes ahead of me were there to cheer me in to the finish. Even the guy who comes last* is ahead of the people who don't run.


* it's often the same chap in our local races, he's an 80 year old ex para, not particularly quick any more but he's like the terminator and just does not stop. His pace at the London marathon this year was pretty close to his parkrun pace. If I'm half as fit as he is when I reach that age I'll be impressed. biggrin

cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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ewenm said:
E65Ross said:
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I suppose what I'm trying to say is that no matter what your pace, ability, goal, schedule etc in running if you enjoy it, then who gives a flying fk how quick you are.

Sorry for the long post!!
Too right! The first priority is enjoyment, then goals.
Spot on! I just really enjoy being out running on my own in the fresh air, I ran 10k this morning in 54 mins which was 2 mins quicker than I ran it on Wednesday although I did run 8 miles Wednesday so I felt I could push just a little harder today and I only ran a 9 min/mile pace but it still felt good.

I love reading about the experienced and very talented runners on here and now I am 40 my best days are probably behind me now! but I just enjoy being out there running so to me it doesn't matter how quick or slow you are just enjoy it.


cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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lost in espace said:
About a couple of weeks ago someone mentioned that the London marathon good for age limits were reduced, and I mistakenly thought I could enter, but I had got a little confused between the ladies and gents times. Anyway I sent off my entry, and realised afterwards I was not entitled to a place. I am not sure if they had spare places, but I was accepted today. I went last year to watch and said I wouldn't do it as it was so busy, but I suppose it is one that every marathon runner has to do.
Hats off to you and I admire anyone willing to tackle the London marathon I just don't know how people manage to run that far I could never imagine me running that distance but I bet its a fantastic buzz to be involved in something like that.

The jiffle king

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6,914 posts

258 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
Spot on, one of the things I love about running is the lack of one-upmanship. I did 1:05:19 on a 10k the other day, a personal best that I was pretty happy with (I was aiming for <1:05 so pretty happy rather than ecstatic) and only the third time I've run that distance. Plenty of our club who'd finished 15-20 minutes ahead of me were there to cheer me in to the finish. Even the guy who comes last* is ahead of the people who don't run.


* it's often the same chap in our local races, he's an 80 year old ex para, not particularly quick any more but he's like the terminator and just does not stop. His pace at the London marathon this year was pretty close to his parkrun pace. If I'm half as fit as he is when I reach that age I'll be impressed. biggrin
Totally agree with this. I'm fortunate to have been in the faster groups in races, but it was always a key things for all of the "quickies" to walk 50-200m back down the course and cheer the others in using their names as it usually made them put a little extra in. At a Reading Cross country event a few years ago, my club had 20 people from the finish to 300m out and many of our team overtook people and finished with a flourish. Rachpal an 82 year old gent is a legend at my club and whilst he might finish near the back of the field, its not the time he takes, but the camaraderie which is important.


Update on my slow progress, ran 37 mins yesterday and going out tonight for 30 minutes. Aim is to keep building very slowly. Was dreaming of running another marathon on yesterdays run, so fingers crossed

markh1973

1,806 posts

168 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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cerb4.5lee said:
ewenm said:
E65Ross said:
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I suppose what I'm trying to say is that no matter what your pace, ability, goal, schedule etc in running if you enjoy it, then who gives a flying fk how quick you are.

Sorry for the long post!!
Too right! The first priority is enjoyment, then goals.
Spot on! I just really enjoy being out running on my own in the fresh air, I ran 10k this morning in 54 mins which was 2 mins quicker than I ran it on Wednesday although I did run 8 miles Wednesday so I felt I could push just a little harder today and I only ran a 9 min/mile pace but it still felt good.

I love reading about the experienced and very talented runners on here and now I am 40 my best days are probably behind me now! but I just enjoy being out there running so to me it doesn't matter how quick or slow you are just enjoy it.
I'm 40 too and the fact that I couldn't netally deal with that fact last year was what made me go out and run. My view is that given thet I didn't start til I was 40 means my best days are still ahead of me.

I go out and run and it just empties my mind which tends to kick the depression into touch for a bit. I wasn't coping yesterday morning so took myself for a half hour run - just 4 miles as I was meant to be working but it worked and I came back in a much better mood.

I improved my parkrun time again last weekend - so far every time I have run it on my own (i.e. not with one of the kids) I have improved my PB. Only run one 10k but that was in 43:58 - I know I'm going to struggle to beat that as it was on a flat course in Weymouth and the running at home (Orpington) is not flat but is is beautiful.

Joined a club to help get my distances up - easier for me to slow down when I'm with others instead of burning myself out and having to stop. Last week I ran 19.5k - there were a couple of regroups but I still ran for that distance.

cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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markh1973 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
ewenm said:
E65Ross said:
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I suppose what I'm trying to say is that no matter what your pace, ability, goal, schedule etc in running if you enjoy it, then who gives a flying fk how quick you are.

Sorry for the long post!!
Too right! The first priority is enjoyment, then goals.
Spot on! I just really enjoy being out running on my own in the fresh air, I ran 10k this morning in 54 mins which was 2 mins quicker than I ran it on Wednesday although I did run 8 miles Wednesday so I felt I could push just a little harder today and I only ran a 9 min/mile pace but it still felt good.

I love reading about the experienced and very talented runners on here and now I am 40 my best days are probably behind me now! but I just enjoy being out there running so to me it doesn't matter how quick or slow you are just enjoy it.
I'm 40 too and the fact that I couldn't netally deal with that fact last year was what made me go out and run. My view is that given thet I didn't start til I was 40 means my best days are still ahead of me.

I go out and run and it just empties my mind which tends to kick the depression into touch for a bit. I wasn't coping yesterday morning so took myself for a half hour run - just 4 miles as I was meant to be working but it worked and I came back in a much better mood.

I improved my parkrun time again last weekend - so far every time I have run it on my own (i.e. not with one of the kids) I have improved my PB. Only run one 10k but that was in 43:58 - I know I'm going to struggle to beat that as it was on a flat course in Weymouth and the running at home (Orpington) is not flat but is is beautiful.

Joined a club to help get my distances up - easier for me to slow down when I'm with others instead of burning myself out and having to stop. Last week I ran 19.5k - there were a couple of regroups but I still ran for that distance.
Good stuff thumbup your 10k time is awesome I think and I am not sure I could ever get that low now and I agree running is great for clearing the mind and you tend to feel really good after, I really enjoyed running as a teenager and ran for the county at cross country and 1500m a few times but I never joined a running club and looking back now I wished I had as they make such a difference to your development.

I have only been running for fun really since November 2012 but I am prone to injuries on my foot and ankle and I applied for the Lincoln 10k this year and was training well for it then I sprained my toe which put me out of it and the previous year I injured my ankle and I was upset as I wanted to enter something rather than me just going out running on my own.

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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cerb4.5lee said:
Good stuff thumbup your 10k time is awesome I think and I am not sure I could ever get that low now and I agree running is great for clearing the mind and you tend to feel really good after, I really enjoyed running as a teenager and ran for the county at cross country and 1500m a few times but I never joined a running club and looking back now I wished I had as they make such a difference to your development.

I have only been running for fun really since November 2012 but I am prone to injuries on my foot and ankle and I applied for the Lincoln 10k this year and was training well for it then I sprained my toe which put me out of it and the previous year I injured my ankle and I was upset as I wanted to enter something rather than me just going out running on my own.
Join a club, get correct footwear (including orthotics if needed), keep on top of stretching etc and slowly increase mileage and you shouldn't have too many issues.

Being polite.... Are you a, erm, big chap? That can put a LOT of extra stress on muscles, joints etc and losing some weight really increases your pace a lot.

There is no reason why you can't run around a sub 45 min 10k but it'd take a lot of effort but never say never.

For what it's worth, my 1st ever 10k was a shade under 44mins. I pretty much knock that time out when out on my steady runs now. You'll be surprised how much you can improve with a few changes and some commitment.

But as above, the key thing is to enjoy it. If you aren't willing to (if necessary) change diet and lifestyle habits, run more and harder etc then do not do it because it'll take the enjoyment out of it.

boyse7en

6,727 posts

165 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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cerb4.5lee said:
Good stuff thumbup your 10k time is awesome I think and I am not sure I could ever get that low now.
Keep trying, you'll be amazed at how much more you can do. 1st 10k i did was a stonking 58:35, and I was so knackered at the end I thought I would never beat it.

I set myself the challenge at 39 of breaking the 50 min barrier before I was 40, then I would call it a day on trying to speed up.
Managed that, and then whittled it down over the next few years to a sub-45. I'm happy with that... until I get the urge to get a PB again! smile

cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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E65Ross said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Good stuff thumbup your 10k time is awesome I think and I am not sure I could ever get that low now and I agree running is great for clearing the mind and you tend to feel really good after, I really enjoyed running as a teenager and ran for the county at cross country and 1500m a few times but I never joined a running club and looking back now I wished I had as they make such a difference to your development.

I have only been running for fun really since November 2012 but I am prone to injuries on my foot and ankle and I applied for the Lincoln 10k this year and was training well for it then I sprained my toe which put me out of it and the previous year I injured my ankle and I was upset as I wanted to enter something rather than me just going out running on my own.
Join a club, get correct footwear (including orthotics if needed), keep on top of stretching etc and slowly increase mileage and you shouldn't have too many issues.

Being polite.... Are you a, erm, big chap? That can put a LOT of extra stress on muscles, joints etc and losing some weight really increases your pace a lot.

There is no reason why you can't run around a sub 45 min 10k but it'd take a lot of effort but never say never.

For what it's worth, my 1st ever 10k was a shade under 44mins. I pretty much knock that time out when out on my steady runs now. You'll be surprised how much you can improve with a few changes and some commitment.

But as above, the key thing is to enjoy it. If you aren't willing to (if necessary) change diet and lifestyle habits, run more and harder etc then do not do it because it'll take the enjoyment out of it.
Thanks for the positive words Ross, I am not a big chap sadly I have always secretly wanted to be well built but I don't think that's ever going to happen! I used to be 10 stone dead for years but as I have got older I put weight on and at my heaviest I was 12 stone 8ib and that was what encouraged me to start running but I am currently 11 stone 7ib so happy enough with that but the more I run I have a feeling that will come down a little.

I will aim to slowly chip away at my 10k time and see what happens, I am planning on doing a half marathon in September as I have never done one before so I just hope I can stay injury free and I will look forward to doing that.

cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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boyse7en said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Good stuff thumbup your 10k time is awesome I think and I am not sure I could ever get that low now.
Keep trying, you'll be amazed at how much more you can do. 1st 10k i did was a stonking 58:35, and I was so knackered at the end I thought I would never beat it.

I set myself the challenge at 39 of breaking the 50 min barrier before I was 40, then I would call it a day on trying to speed up.
Managed that, and then whittled it down over the next few years to a sub-45. I'm happy with that... until I get the urge to get a PB again! smile
Thanks and it seems with commitment and determination its surprising what you can achieve and you must be well chuffed with your achievements and how far you have improved. smile

markh1973

1,806 posts

168 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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cerb4.5lee said:
boyse7en said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Good stuff thumbup your 10k time is awesome I think and I am not sure I could ever get that low now.
Keep trying, you'll be amazed at how much more you can do. 1st 10k i did was a stonking 58:35, and I was so knackered at the end I thought I would never beat it.

I set myself the challenge at 39 of breaking the 50 min barrier before I was 40, then I would call it a day on trying to speed up.
Managed that, and then whittled it down over the next few years to a sub-45. I'm happy with that... until I get the urge to get a PB again! smile
Thanks and it seems with commitment and determination its surprising what you can achieve and you must be well chuffed with your achievements and how far you have improved. smile
I have reduced my 5k time simply by running more miles. No speed work - lots of hills as I can't avoid them. Just running further has increased my endurance such that last Saturday I went out and was saying to my wife that I was no where near PB condition. Then the further I got into it I realised I was on course and fighting the urge to walk just pushed on until the finish.

So do some miles, building it up slowly in comfortable shoes and times are likely to reduce.

My next target is 10 mile cross country at the beginning of September which will be the furthest I have raced and then the Great eastern half in October. I want to do 1h45m for that but will have to see what the next 3 months bring.

cerb4.5lee

30,614 posts

180 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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markh1973 said:
I have reduced my 5k time simply by running more miles. No speed work - lots of hills as I can't avoid them. Just running further has increased my endurance such that last Saturday I went out and was saying to my wife that I was no where near PB condition. Then the further I got into it I realised I was on course and fighting the urge to walk just pushed on until the finish.

So do some miles, building it up slowly in comfortable shoes and times are likely to reduce.

My next target is 10 mile cross country at the beginning of September which will be the furthest I have raced and then the Great eastern half in October. I want to do 1h45m for that but will have to see what the next 3 months bring.
Cheers, that 10 mile cross country sounds like a great event and cross country was my favourite when I was younger, currently the furthest I have run is 8 miles but I am hoping to improve on that in the upcoming weeks hopefully, I bet doing 10 miles off road seriously takes it out of you and I wish you all the best with it.

I bet you are looking forward to the Great eastern half as well and good luck with your goals. smile
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