The Running Thread

[Foliage]

New 5km PB this morning of 28 minutes, not entirely sure how I managed it.

[cerb4.5lee]

Cybertronian said:

E65Ross said:

We're all different, but I think I could have done with 2 gels on my half marathon PB (1hr 18mins); I don't think 2 gels would be over-doing it.....1 gel minimum, it certainly would have helped. If you're running for another 40+ mins I don't think another 1-2 gels on that is too much. In my opinion of course.

Edited by E65Ross on Monday 29th September 20:34

I take 2 to 3 gels during half marathons - find they're a nice comfort blanket when things are starting to feel at their worst, and the caffeine helps to perk me up nicely. I stick with the Isogels which are a lot thinner than traditional gels, so kinda act like an energy drink.

For my half marathon on sunday I just took two gels I took one at 45 mins and one at 1:30 and I finished the race in 2:00 dead, maybe its just psychological but I thought they helped me keep to my pace as in training when I got to 10/11 miles without using them my pace dropped over a minute slower and I was flagging lots trying to reach 13 mile.

[bennyboysvuk]

cerb4.5lee said:

That's a stunning time for the full marathon I did the same race and did the half and it was my first one and finished in 2 hours dead, was happy because in training I ran 13 miles in 2:08 and I had estimated I would do it in 2:05.

Really good event and I enjoyed the atmosphere.

Good work Lee! That's awesome to beat your expected time by so much!

[cerb4.5lee]

bennyboysvuk said:

cerb4.5lee said:

That's a stunning time for the full marathon I did the same race and did the half and it was my first one and finished in 2 hours dead, was happy because in training I ran 13 miles in 2:08 and I had estimated I would do it in 2:05.

Really good event and I enjoyed the atmosphere.

Good work Lee! That's awesome to beat your expected time by so much!

Thanks Ben it was my birthday weekend so I was nursing a massive hangover too and I was fine whilst I was out running but on the way back home in the car I thought I was dying! so I am hoping if I do it next year I can run it with a clear head and I might do even better hopefully.

[briangriffin]

Can anyone explain 'offset' and different heel and foot measurements when looking at running trainers?

I currently have saucony trainers atm which have served me well but have now worn out. It may have been more luck than judgement when first choosing this pair which have been faultless on my feet just wondering if there's anything I need to consider with the above details, particularly when I am flat footed

Thanks

[Rich_W]

My first Half was Silverstone in '11.

I wouldn't repeat. It's pretty dull (even as an F1/MotoGP fan) there's virtually no spectators on a lot of the course and the year I did it the media were following Katie Price around I agree with the earlier comment about distance from car park to start. It's not great.

It is however good value for money IIRC it was £15 or so.

But I would always recommend an event held in civilisation.


Coming back to this weekend. I just did Berlin as my 1st full. Would recommend it as an event. But my disappointment is for my performance. I know why. I've been trying to fit it around my Triathlon training so didn't do very many long slow runs as I wanted to keep some speed for the 10K at the back end of a Tri. Ultimately only 7-8 runs were over 2 hours and of those only 3 long runs were 30K / circa 3 hours

With hindsight this was a mistake, as I'd not tested myself longer and not practiced with trying to take on a last gel after 3h30 of running. So of course when I had the inevitable bad patch (38k) quite frankly I felt like I was going to be sick and the taste of an apple crumble Torq gel was enough to make me chuck it rather than finish it. And resulted in the last 2k becoming walk/run and took 15 mins! Though some of that was my hip flexor deciding enough was enough!

Apparently you double your Half time and add 20mins? So 2(1h50) =3h40 +20 =4hours. So my actual time of 4h20 leaves room for improvement. But on the positives at least I know I CAN cover the distance so if I enter another, with a bit of modifications to the plan I hope I can dip below 4h.

Oh and I can feel a cold coming on. Any more stereotypes I should know about?

EDIT TO ADD

briangriffin said:

Can anyone explain 'offset' and different heel and foot measurements when looking at running trainers?

I currently have saucony trainers atm which have served me well but have now worn out. It may have been more luck than judgement when first choosing this pair which have been faultless on my feet just wondering if there's anything I need to consider with the above details, particularly when I am flat footed

Thanks

Offset is the difference in height between your heel and your toes. Saucony have gone for 8mm heel toe drop of late. I believe they do other drops but not seen them in the fabric so to speak.

If you are flat footed, then get thee to a PROPER running shop. Post your location and someone will be able to advise. You should get "gait analysis" and then buy the shoes the shop recommends. Yes they will be slightly more expensive than online. But it's the service you get that will pay dividends in the future. Both in terms of getting the right product and also in reducing the risk of running injuries.

Edited by Rich_W on Tuesday 30th September 23:17

[briangriffin]

Rich_W said:

Offset is the difference in height between your heel and your toes. Saucony have gone for 8mm heel toe drop of late. I believe they do other drops but not seen them in the fabric so to speak.

If you are flat footed, then get thee to a PROPER running shop. Post your location and someone will be able to advise. You should get "gait analysis" and then buy the shoes the shop recommends. Yes they will be slightly more expensive than online. But it's the service you get that will pay dividends in the future. Both in terms of getting the right product and also in reducing the risk of running injuries.

Edited by Rich_W on Tuesday 30th September 23:17

Thanks I've tracked down my local shop so going to go there tomorrow. I must have got lucky with my sauconys last time. Bought a cheap pair of runners the other day and they absolutely ruined my soles after hill sprints. So defo need to fork out for some decent runners.m

[bennyboysvuk]

It's hill reps for me tonight. I've not concentrated on these much before, but I read that they are a fantastic way of increasing strength in the legs and am eager to add them to my training. Time will tell.

[EdJ]

I've not run for a week now and am SO missing it. I'd been running around 25-30 miles per week until on my last run I was aware of a pain in my left heel. And the following day I could barely walk.

It seems to be a case of plantar fasciitis and the only real option is to rest it. It's definitely better than it was a week ago, but I don't think I should run on it just yet.

After reading up on the condition and talking to my doctor, I'm conscious that I don't do nearly enough stretching after my runs. Lesson well and truly learnt, I'm definitely going to do so in future.

Really gutted that I will miss the parkrun anniversary this weekend as well. I was hoping to get a new PB with the weather likely to be a bit cooler.

[E65Ross]

Easy 4.25 miles this morning before work as part of recovery week for me.

Not been much different to normal so far (Monday would normally be about 7.5-8 miles and did just over 4) but tomorrow is when I'll really start recovering as instead of doing a tough speed session it'll be 4-5 miles steady with 4-6 strides of about 75m each. Then instead of doing 13-14 miles Friday I'll do about 10-11, instead of easy 4 Saturday I'll have another day off and finally, instead of another hard speed session (which usually account for 9+ miles, 5+ of which are hard) then it's another 4-5 miles easy.

Going to feel like a right lazy sod

[markh1973]

EdJ said:

I've not run for a week now and am SO missing it. I'd been running around 25-30 miles per week until on my last run I was aware of a pain in my left heel. And the following day I could barely walk.

It seems to be a case of plantar fasciitis and the only real option is to rest it. It's definitely better than it was a week ago, but I don't think I should run on it just yet.

After reading up on the condition and talking to my doctor, I'm conscious that I don't do nearly enough stretching after my runs. Lesson well and truly learnt, I'm definitely going to do so in future.

Really gutted that I will miss the parkrun anniversary this weekend as well. I was hoping to get a new PB with the weather likely to be a bit cooler.

I'm having to force myself not to run which is proving really tough. Did a 10 mile race 10 days ago and felt great afterwards. Ran on the Tuesday night (in a pair of trainers that I don't often run in) - mostly at an easy pace except for the last two k which were run at 5k pace.

Thursday right shin started hurting - did parkrun with the little boy on the Saturday - didn't particularly hurt but wasn't getting any better. Have decided that I need a few days off and lots of stretching. Would be hard enough not running at any time but I have my first HM on 12 October and am feeling as if I am going to be going into it not feeling fully prepared - I know I can do the distance and did my 10 miles the other week in 75:40 so felt confident that I could achieve my 1:45 goal.

Now feeling as if I am going to have to adjust that goal downwards which is a little depressing.

[a boardman]

I am doing Chester marathon this weekend, this will be my 5th marathon since i started running in jan 2012, and my 3rd this year.

[bennyboysvuk]

thelittleegg said:

bennyboysvuk said:

It's hill reps for me tonight. I've not concentrated on these much before, but I read that they are a fantastic way of increasing strength in the legs and am eager to add them to my training. Time will tell.

Hill reps = pain IMO. Well worth doing, but they're the one thing that make me want to give up the most. I did 6 x ~2:20 reps up Parliament Hill last night and I wanted to throw in the towel on rep 3.

Also, received my London Marathon acceptance form today . Now I just need to make it to the start line, unlike this year .

I only had a vague idea of how the reps would work out with regard to time and distance, but I ended up doing 6 x 1:25 reps up a road near me, which according to MapMyRun means I climbed around 600ft in that time. I didn't feel horrendous at any point, but I felt like I lacked energy and my form started to go on the last rep. It feels today like I've worked my legs hard, but no unbearably so.

Congrats on the London Marathon entry.

[ocrx8]

34:19 in Southend 10k today... perfect running weather. PB by 17 seconds

Sadly, this week I received my London rejection

[Cybertronian]

Well done! Very nice PB on what is already strong running!

After narrowly missing out on a sub-90 finish at last year's Cardiff Half, finally managed to go under for 88:51 this morning! Almost lost it all when I wasn't paying attention going over a speed bump whilst sucking on a gel - managed to regain footing just in a nick of time to carry on and avoid a catastrophe!

[anonymous-user]

10k in 38.59 today, a full 1 second quicker than the same race last year!
But another year older, Age grading bang on 80% which is my 2nd best..

[anonymous-user]

10k in 38.59 today, a full 1 second quicker than the same race last year!
But another year older, Age grading bang on 80% which is my 2nd best..

[EdJ]

Jimboka said:

10k in 38.59 today, a full 1 second quicker than the same race last year!
But another year older, Age grading bang on 80% which is my 2nd best..

Excellent work there. That's damn quick. And consistent. I'm determined to get into the 80s on the age grading...

[anonymous-user]

EdJ said:

Excellent work there. That's damn quick. And consistent. I'm determined to get into the 80s on the age grading...

It seems to get easier as you get older, last man standing!
39.00 @ age 52 (80%) equates to 33.35 at my 'prime' apparently.
My PB was 34.10 I recall, just after the war, but memories fading

[EdJ]

Jimboka said:

It seems to get easier as you get older, last man standing!
39.00 @ age 52 (80%) equates to 33.35 at my 'prime' apparently.
My PB was 34.10 I recall, just after the war, but memories fading

My parkrun PB is just under 75% at age 42 so I'm hoping that as long as I maintain my consistency, then I will get there...