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The Running Thread

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MC Bodge

21,652 posts

176 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Smitters said:
Got caught out in sleet today in shorts and a tee shirt.
Who'd have thought it?!?

Longs and 2 baselayers (or 1 + windproof) for me in cool weather these days. My knees thank me.

john2443

6,341 posts

212 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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evo4a said:
half marathon today, just a training one, 1:52:27. very happy with that, 56 days till the race now starting to think 1:50 is very much a possibility.
Surely you'll do better than 1:50 if you're already at 1:52?

evo4a

737 posts

182 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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john2443 said:
Surely you'll do better than 1:50 if you're already at 1:52?
Hopefully, 1:50 was my target when I entered, this will be my first half so under 1:50 will be great anything else is a bonus.

TeaNoSugar

1,242 posts

166 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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evo4a said:
john2443 said:
Surely you'll do better than 1:50 if you're already at 1:52?
Hopefully, 1:50 was my target when I entered, this will be my first half so under 1:50 will be great anything else is a bonus.
I logged in to find out some other information here, but just saw your post and thought I'd offer an opinion as a distinctly average runner who's done at least a dozen half marathons and been through the same sort of pace bracket you're running at now. 56 days out from a 1/2 and you're running 1:52 in training? Assuming you keep training and stay injury free, you'll be way past the 1:50 point before you even line up at the start of the race. The adrenalin of a race day is always worth a few more seconds/mile pace as well. Might be worth indulging in a bit of "mission-creep" and settting yourself a new target. I'd be worried more about over-training, or losing motivation if you've set too easy a target. Maybe worth seeing whats needed to work towards 1:44, which is 8.00/mile pace. You've got 8 more weeks to work on it, thats more than enough for a 1/2, especially as you're already running an easy 1:52. Good luck.

evo4a

737 posts

182 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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TeaNoSugar said:
I logged in to find out some other information here, but just saw your post and thought I'd offer an opinion as a distinctly average runner who's done at least a dozen half marathons and been through the same sort of pace bracket you're running at now. 56 days out from a 1/2 and you're running 1:52 in training? Assuming you keep training and stay injury free, you'll be way past the 1:50 point before you even line up at the start of the race. The adrenalin of a race day is always worth a few more seconds/mile pace as well. Might be worth indulging in a bit of "mission-creep" and settting yourself a new target. I'd be worried more about over-training, or losing motivation if you've set too easy a target. Maybe worth seeing whats needed to work towards 1:44, which is 8.00/mile pace. You've got 8 more weeks to work on it, thats more than enough for a 1/2, especially as you're already running an easy 1:52. Good luck.
Thanks for that, very encouraging. 1:45 would be nice. I think I'll enter another one for the early summer to keep the training going. I just feel at the moment as though I have a lot more in me, like a 1:40 eventually.

TeaNoSugar

1,242 posts

166 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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evo4a said:
Thanks for that, very encouraging. 1:45 would be nice. I think I'll enter another one for the early summer to keep the training going. I just feel at the moment as though I have a lot more in me, like a 1:40 eventually.
I'm sure you do have more in you. I ran 3 halfs from 2010 to 2013 in times ranging from 2:09 - 1:56 before I joined a running club. Over the next 18 months I trained regularly, entered another 8 or 9 HMs and got my time down to 1:36. I'm not a naturally good runner either; although I'm tall, I've been carrying too much weight and my form is not the most efficient, a bit "clunky" and heavy footed, and I don't do anywhere near enough core strength work, so the point is, if I can do 1:36, anyone with a decent level of fitness and a fairly normal running style should definitely have a 1:35 in them.

Good luck anyway, and definitely enter more races - unless you're really self-motivated, it's easy to let things slide after you've "proved yourself" at a race, and it helps to have another target to work towards. I know because I've done it myself - just let it all dwindle away for no reason other than laziness and lack of interest, and then found myself 4 or 5 months down the line, a stone heavier, out of practice and unable to manage more than a slow 5k!

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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MC Bodge said:
Who'd have thought it?!?

Longs and 2 baselayers (or 1 + windproof) for me in cool weather these days. My knees thank me.
Your concern and sympathy was mirrored by my colleagues.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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I bought some Skins™ thermal compression, XL. Too tight. XXL might suit me.

krallicious

4,312 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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I have my old running buddy (GF's family dog) visiting for a week. He not as fast as he was (neither am I) but we did a steady 10.5k this afternoon in 65 minutes. Half marathon is 5 weeks away and will be annoyed if I am over 1.55. I'm looking to do an 18k in the next couple of weeks and will then start doing some speed work too.

evo4a

737 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Just a quick question about speed work.
I can run a half marathon at 7mph pace,want to up my pace so, tonight I did 1 mile at 8mph, walk for 2mins, 1 mile at 7.8, walk for 2mins, then ran 4 miles at 7.6

Is this a good routine, open to suggestions.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Wokingham Half next Sunday, followed by an impulsive entry to the Bramley 20 the week after...
Aiming for 1:26 & 2:20. I'll report back afterwards!

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Jimboka said:
Wokingham Half next Sunday, followed by an impulsive entry to the Bramley 20 the week after...
Aiming for 1:26 & 2:20. I'll report back afterwards!
I did the Bramley 20 last year; really enjoyable race. Make sure you get there and parked up with plenty of time. Traffic in and out of the town was pretty bad due to the railway crossing.

MC Bodge

21,652 posts

176 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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evo4a said:
Just a quick question about speed work.
I can run a half marathon at 7mph pace,want to up my pace so, tonight I did 1 mile at 8mph, walk for 2mins, 1 mile at 7.8, walk for 2mins, then ran 4 miles at 7.6

Is this a good routine, open to suggestions.
It sounds like te right sort of thing to me. Maintaining a quicker pace over shorter-than-race distance intervals
-but I'm no expert.

Ps.People normally think in minutes/mile or /km.

MC Bodge

21,652 posts

176 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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On the road back from many calf injuries, I've been told to stick to about 5K for now.

as I was feeling impatient, I decided to make the latest session a Fartlek over the 5K. Mixed pace after a 1k warm up, with 1 fairly hard effort over 800m, followed by a slower pace.

Towards the end of the run The left soleus was cramping a little and is displaying a little tightness today -although not as bad as it could have been.

I over-did it, obviously... Hopefully it will recover quickly.

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Good to see the thread still running wink

grumbledoak

31,545 posts

234 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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MC Bodge said:
as I was feeling impatient, I decided to make the latest session a Fartlek over the 5K. Mixed pace after a 1k warm up, with 1 fairly hard effort over 800m, followed by a slower pace.

Towards the end of the run The left soleus was cramping a little and is displaying a little tightness today -although not as bad as it could have been.
You may have found your issue! I really did stick to 1km every three days for six weeks before pushing on.

It's very rare that I get cramp. When I do, it's always salt. I keep some decent sea salt in the kitchen for the few recipes that really need it, for cramps I just grind some into my palm and lick it.



MC Bodge

21,652 posts

176 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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grumbledoak said:
You may have found your issue! I really did stick to 1km every three days for six weeks before pushing on.

It's very rare that I get cramp. When I do, it's always salt. I keep some decent sea salt in the kitchen for the few recipes that really need it, for cramps I just grind some into my palm and lick it.
I will be taking it easy when I get back to it. It has been niggling more as the day has gone on, although rolling it appeared to release it quite a bit.

Cycling with it thankfully doesn't appear to causing a problem.

I possibly was a little dehydrated yesterday, but I'm not sure that lack of salt was a problem.

It does still seem to be a weakness in the soleus, despite a few weeks of strengthening exercises. I'll take a(nother) week off running.

MC Bodge

21,652 posts

176 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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grumbledoak said:
You may have found your issue! I really did stick to 1km every three days for six weeks before pushing on.

It's very rare that I get cramp. When I do, it's always salt.
Encouragingly, the calf has eased a lot this morning, after a hilly bike ride and some muscle rollering last night.

800m of quick-ish (not sprinting!) running in the middle of 5K surely shouldn't be causing muscle problems in an active bloke in his late 30s though.

Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 6th February 07:43

ExV8

3,642 posts

216 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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My new regime seems to be working - faster 7k tempo runs pushing me quicker.

Instead of slogging 10-12k runs these feel much more fun.

Tycho

11,633 posts

274 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Ben Jk said:
This might be of some interest. Friend of a friend.

http://www.400400challenge.co.uk
That is some challenge!
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