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ewenm said:
Run-commute home from Keysham station last night - a nice 7 miles along the River Avon footpath.
Run-commute to the early train this morning - 4 easy miles in 30 mins at 5:30am, surprisingly warm in Bath, disappointingly cold and wet in Filton
Looking forward to a few days of running without a rucksack over the long weekend! Anyone doing any exciting running over Easter?
Bit of parkrun tourism on Saturday to Kinsbury water park, club on Sunday., so business as usual. Have you had thoughts about training for Keswick yet?Run-commute to the early train this morning - 4 easy miles in 30 mins at 5:30am, surprisingly warm in Bath, disappointingly cold and wet in Filton
Looking forward to a few days of running without a rucksack over the long weekend! Anyone doing any exciting running over Easter?
ewenm said:
Run-commute home from Keysham station last night - a nice 7 miles along the River Avon footpath.
Run-commute to the early train this morning - 4 easy miles in 30 mins at 5:30am, surprisingly warm in Bath, disappointingly cold and wet in Filton
Looking forward to a few days of running without a rucksack over the long weekend! Anyone doing any exciting running over Easter?
22 mile run tomorrow, my last long run before the London marathon. Getting the train to brokenhurst new forest early tomorrow then running back into southampton. Looking forward to it....sort of.Run-commute to the early train this morning - 4 easy miles in 30 mins at 5:30am, surprisingly warm in Bath, disappointingly cold and wet in Filton
Looking forward to a few days of running without a rucksack over the long weekend! Anyone doing any exciting running over Easter?
Roger645 said:
Bit of parkrun tourism on Saturday to Kinsbury water park, club on Sunday., so business as usual. Have you had thoughts about training for Keswick yet?
Lots of hill work and a weekly tempo run. Not much else to think about really. Just need to fit it in around work and family...ewenm said:
Run-commute home from Keysham station last night - a nice 7 miles along the River Avon footpath.
Run-commute to the early train this morning - 4 easy miles in 30 mins at 5:30am, surprisingly warm in Bath, disappointingly cold and wet in Filton
Looking forward to a few days of running without a rucksack over the long weekend! Anyone doing any exciting running over Easter?
Did 4km today - not far at all but it is the furthest i have done since tearing my knee ligament skiing.Run-commute to the early train this morning - 4 easy miles in 30 mins at 5:30am, surprisingly warm in Bath, disappointingly cold and wet in Filton
Looking forward to a few days of running without a rucksack over the long weekend! Anyone doing any exciting running over Easter?
Only 6 weeks since i did it and given the initial expectation tbat it woukd be 8-12 weeks until i coud start running I'm really pleased. Patience is going to be the key - comeback race (10km) booked for May. Looking forward to that.
It sure has been many, many months since I last ventured in this thread!
As many of you know I had to undergo somewhat major surgery....I have since been running but have received some distressing news...
I had been struggling quite a lot with my breathing; I simply cannot get air into my lungs quick enough and also quite a lot of noise/wheezing on inspiration. I thought that this was just because of around 4 months of total inactivity following the op. I slowly have increased the distance over the last month or so and the other day managed 5k at 7:40/mile.....which considering I literally couldn't stand up, let alone walk, for a fair while after the surgery is something I should be grateful for. The bad news then?
The reason I'm struggling to breathe is because, following surgery, I got a paralysed vocal cord. This means that when I'm breathing in, it's not moving properly and is restricting air flow. Now, I have another camera down my throat about 2 weeks ago which showed the vocal cord was JUST beginning to move, yet it was still somewhat pathetic. It has been said to me that it may or may not make a full reovery. If it does not fully recover, I shall never be able to run to a half decent level again.
This has really upset me. My double vision is almost better, my speech, whilst not perfect, can at least be understood, the numbness in my legs (right side especially) I can live with, my ability to swallow and cough returned after about 6 weeks, my tongue is moving a little better......a few other symptoms too but all of them I can live with. But this vocal cord thing has really hit me hard. I worked so hard for 12+ years with my running and enjoyed being at a half decent level....and because of a brain tumour, something totally out of my control, this has likely been taken away from me at 26 years old.
People say that I should be grateful I'm alive (indeed, my surgeon said I was bloody lucky, due to complications it was my physical fitness through running that quite literally saved my life....I was told if I was a more average Joe, smoked the odd cigarette etc I wouldn't be here today) and that I'm not worse off than I am....and I am grateful but still, that doesn't make it any easier to deal with.
I shall keep trying to run, it's in my blood, I have such a passion for it, and hope it improves (it is still relatively early days) but it's a real mental struggle for me.
emotional rant over
As many of you know I had to undergo somewhat major surgery....I have since been running but have received some distressing news...
I had been struggling quite a lot with my breathing; I simply cannot get air into my lungs quick enough and also quite a lot of noise/wheezing on inspiration. I thought that this was just because of around 4 months of total inactivity following the op. I slowly have increased the distance over the last month or so and the other day managed 5k at 7:40/mile.....which considering I literally couldn't stand up, let alone walk, for a fair while after the surgery is something I should be grateful for. The bad news then?
The reason I'm struggling to breathe is because, following surgery, I got a paralysed vocal cord. This means that when I'm breathing in, it's not moving properly and is restricting air flow. Now, I have another camera down my throat about 2 weeks ago which showed the vocal cord was JUST beginning to move, yet it was still somewhat pathetic. It has been said to me that it may or may not make a full reovery. If it does not fully recover, I shall never be able to run to a half decent level again.
This has really upset me. My double vision is almost better, my speech, whilst not perfect, can at least be understood, the numbness in my legs (right side especially) I can live with, my ability to swallow and cough returned after about 6 weeks, my tongue is moving a little better......a few other symptoms too but all of them I can live with. But this vocal cord thing has really hit me hard. I worked so hard for 12+ years with my running and enjoyed being at a half decent level....and because of a brain tumour, something totally out of my control, this has likely been taken away from me at 26 years old.
People say that I should be grateful I'm alive (indeed, my surgeon said I was bloody lucky, due to complications it was my physical fitness through running that quite literally saved my life....I was told if I was a more average Joe, smoked the odd cigarette etc I wouldn't be here today) and that I'm not worse off than I am....and I am grateful but still, that doesn't make it any easier to deal with.
I shall keep trying to run, it's in my blood, I have such a passion for it, and hope it improves (it is still relatively early days) but it's a real mental struggle for me.
emotional rant over
Edited by E65Ross on Saturday 4th April 14:01
That sounds awful and I'm sure that most people can sympathise with you. It is very difficult when something seems to have been taken away from you, through no fault of your own.
Sadly, all you can do is try to do your best with what you have. The fastest cyclist in my area is a bloke who was seriously injured and is now a Paralympic competitor.
Sadly, all you can do is try to do your best with what you have. The fastest cyclist in my area is a bloke who was seriously injured and is now a Paralympic competitor.
Jimboka said:
10 mile race, was aiming for sub 65 but just missed out - 65.30. Almost 79% Age Grading so pretty pleased still.
Do others find age grading accurate?65:30 @ age 53 = 78.93% or 56:14 if in my prime!
The best I ever did from memory was 58:10 early 20s
Quite a difference there.
Maybe fewer have the motivation when older, or crocked, so the bar is a bit lower?
The age grade is your time divided by the world record for your age/gender so probably is quite accurate providing there are lots of quick people running at all ages categories, so for 20s and 30s are good because there are a lot of people doing it but for higher ages there are fewer people have done it so the accuracy may be less.
I guess there could be some oddities for example if someone like Steve Ovett decided to have a serious go just for one year at setting some records and then go back into retirement the record for 54 might be better than 53 and 55, but in reality there are probably enough people in each age cat that it would be unlikely for this to happen.
The women's are supposed to be less accurate at higher ages because they weren't allowed to run long distances (over 800m?) until the 1970s? So, the men who are setting M70 records now were racing when they were 20 and have a lifetime of fitness and experience whereas W70 are set by women who didn't start running til they were 30 or 40 so it's taking a while for the stats to catch up.
I used my 5k and grade to estimate my 10k time and it was pretty accurate, to go sub 50 I needed to be around 24 for 5k and I did both.
Whether they are exactly accurate or not, it makes me feel better (at 57) to see my % is better than my 40 something mates who easily beat me on time!
I guess there could be some oddities for example if someone like Steve Ovett decided to have a serious go just for one year at setting some records and then go back into retirement the record for 54 might be better than 53 and 55, but in reality there are probably enough people in each age cat that it would be unlikely for this to happen.
The women's are supposed to be less accurate at higher ages because they weren't allowed to run long distances (over 800m?) until the 1970s? So, the men who are setting M70 records now were racing when they were 20 and have a lifetime of fitness and experience whereas W70 are set by women who didn't start running til they were 30 or 40 so it's taking a while for the stats to catch up.
I used my 5k and grade to estimate my 10k time and it was pretty accurate, to go sub 50 I needed to be around 24 for 5k and I did both.
Whether they are exactly accurate or not, it makes me feel better (at 57) to see my % is better than my 40 something mates who easily beat me on time!
I managed a couple of ~10k off-road runs (and some gruelling cycling climbs) in North Wales. It's a fair while since I ran anywhere so steep and rough and I really enjoyed it.
Living in pancake flat suburbia doesn't really offer that kind of terrain.
I am going to need to travel to my nearest hills for running once a week/fortnight.
Living in pancake flat suburbia doesn't really offer that kind of terrain.
I am going to need to travel to my nearest hills for running once a week/fortnight.
Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 7th April 08:45
SpydieNut said:
Hi all
I need some help with clothing please and thought I'd try here 1st rather than start a thread for it.
I am struggling to keep warm on longer runs (say over an hour or so) when it's raining and windy. I don't mind getting wet, but live in the hills and it can get very blustery and cold. So I need to buy some more gear, as I don't have a decent waterproof / windproof shell. I accept that wearing a waterproof shell will make me sweat more, so something breathable would be better (I know there's only so much 'wicking' away of water vapour etc that it can achieve, especially with high humidity and cold temps) but so long as I can keep warm, I don't mind being wet.
So I'm looking for suggestions please about what to look for, good brands etc - for baselayers, shell jacket, gloves and hat/beanie. Budget wise - not sure. I've read good things about Gore running kit - their shells seem to be £100+. If it works well and enables me to get out in virtually all conditions, then it'll be well worth the money. They should last years, after all
Many thanks for any suggestions
Echo comments regarding merino base layers. I also find patagonia's base layers are worth the money...I need some help with clothing please and thought I'd try here 1st rather than start a thread for it.
I am struggling to keep warm on longer runs (say over an hour or so) when it's raining and windy. I don't mind getting wet, but live in the hills and it can get very blustery and cold. So I need to buy some more gear, as I don't have a decent waterproof / windproof shell. I accept that wearing a waterproof shell will make me sweat more, so something breathable would be better (I know there's only so much 'wicking' away of water vapour etc that it can achieve, especially with high humidity and cold temps) but so long as I can keep warm, I don't mind being wet.
So I'm looking for suggestions please about what to look for, good brands etc - for baselayers, shell jacket, gloves and hat/beanie. Budget wise - not sure. I've read good things about Gore running kit - their shells seem to be £100+. If it works well and enables me to get out in virtually all conditions, then it'll be well worth the money. They should last years, after all
Many thanks for any suggestions
For outer shell would recommend the Berghaus Vapour outer layer. Only gore-text jacket that has been light and breathable enough to run in. I compare this to a Gore-branded shell jacket for cycling (similar weight) and various rapha cycling jackets and a nike hi - vis dri-fit jacket...
MC Bodge said:
I managed a couple of ~10k off-road runs (and some gruelling cycling climbs) in North Wales. It's a fair while since I ran anywhere so steep and rough and I really enjoyed it.
Living in pancake flat suburbia doesn't really offer that kind of terrain.
I am going to need to travel to my nearest hills for running once a week/fortnight.
All of the muscles in my lower legs are feeling a bit stiff this morning, but in a good way. Fingers crossed I have now got over the previous weakness issues and can now concentrate on building mileage and speed.Living in pancake flat suburbia doesn't really offer that kind of terrain.
I am going to need to travel to my nearest hills for running once a week/fortnight.
Hills and decent off-road are definitely things I've been missing, living where I do. As well as travelling to some gradients, I'm going to start doing some hill reps on a local upper floor car park ramp.
Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 7th April 08:46
Finally got out for a post-lurgy run. 11.5km and over-did by maybe 3km. Ended up walking a bit and was very sore afterwards. Seems I've been properly ill. This relegates my upcoming trail half to a training run with other people and no time target, rather a get-round target, but it's part of a bigger picture, so I'll live.
Hope everyone had good Easter running.
Hope everyone had good Easter running.
Just did 3.25 miles.... Longest run since op and managed to do that without stopping. Pace was around 7:45-50/mile. Struggling mentally a little bit (and physically haha). I'm not sure what to do if this vocal cord doesn't improve but I want to keep some form of fitness up. Cycling seems like a slightly better option but running is where my heart lies!
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