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RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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KTF said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Best way to get in seems to be to volunteer and enter the volunteers ballot for the following year, my Mrs has got in both times she's tried on that.
Do you have any details on this as I didnt know it existed.
The mrs gets on it as a member of the Southern Navigators orienteering club, who supply a fair few volunteers for the finish line (handing out medals, keeping people moving in the finish area, etc), they then go to a few other local running clubs for extra manpower. Apparently it's somewhat oversubscribed usually though.

Can't find much on google about it, but it looks like some parkruns are on a similar scheme http://www.parkrun.org.uk/bexley/news/2014/12/09/2... so I assume a lot of volunteers are recruited through similar systems.

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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RizzoTheRat said:
The mrs gets on it as a member of the Southern Navigators orienteering club, who supply a fair few volunteers for the finish line (handing out medals, keeping people moving in the finish area, etc), they then go to a few other local running clubs for extra manpower. Apparently it's somewhat oversubscribed usually though.

Can't find much on google about it, but it looks like some parkruns are on a similar scheme http://www.parkrun.org.uk/bexley/news/2014/12/09/2... so I assume a lot of volunteers are recruited through similar systems.
Thats interesting, thanks. I will contact my local parkrun about it to see if they know any more.

MC Bodge

21,629 posts

175 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Smitters said:
Managed a half myself this weekend, rather by accident. Took a new path in the local park and added a bit of distance to my planned 17km LSD, so ran up and down the road a bit to make it up to 21.1km! An easy 2.06 with 375m of climbing and mainly on trails, all done by 8am on Saturday morning. Smuggy smug smug.
Well done. I like the feeling of getting out early and back for breakfast.

Ps.


That's a big park.

lost in espace

6,164 posts

207 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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a boardman said:
we had a women finish in top 10 in age range 65-69

and a bloke dressed as a big Mr cheese string.
We have a lady in our club who is 80 next week, she ran London in 5.15. Mind you she has run 200. My friend mentioned finishing before Mr Cheese String but I think it was a close thing.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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How's the recovery going marathoners?

I'm off to do some offroad lunchtime hill reps today. Next race on 17th May and could do with some more fitness!

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Have you lot looked at the stats you can get off the website yet? Some quite interesting stuff there. My Mrs was particularly impressed to find she'd managed to overtake more than 1000 people on the last 7km, it's all about keeping a consistent pace.

Smitters

4,003 posts

157 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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MC Bodge said:
Ps.


That's a big park.
Park is perhaps misleading as it's not a climbing frame and footie pitch affair, though it is accurate - it's Woodchester Park ( http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/woodchester-park/ ). Definitely worth a run around if anyone's in the area - loads of nice trails, hills, flat-ish bits.

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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ewenm said:
How's the recovery going marathoners?

I'm off to do some offroad lunchtime hill reps today. Next race on 17th May and could do with some more fitness!
My legs are a lot less sore than they were yesterday and my hamstrings no longer scream when I bend down so getting there.

I normally last 2 days before I crack and go out for an easy run again so tomorrow is the day as I am getting twitchy already.

Looking at some of the pictures, it seems some people have totally destroyed their feet from London. Not sure how they manage that unless they have ill fitting shoes or something?

lost in espace

6,164 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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RizzoTheRat said:
Have you lot looked at the stats you can get off the website yet? Some quite interesting stuff there. My Mrs was particularly impressed to find she'd managed to overtake more than 1000 people on the last 7km, it's all about keeping a consistent pace.
The opposite for me!

Over final 7.2k You passed 84 runners
And 1558 passed you

Legs very sore been having random cramps especially when I try to kick my arse. I will try not to.


VladD

7,858 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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lost in espace said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Have you lot looked at the stats you can get off the website yet? Some quite interesting stuff there. My Mrs was particularly impressed to find she'd managed to overtake more than 1000 people on the last 7km, it's all about keeping a consistent pace.
The opposite for me!

Over final 7.2k You passed 84 runners
And 1558 passed you

Legs very sore been having random cramps especially when I try to kick my arse. I will try not to.
I passed 815 and got passed by 165, so a net gain of 650. I finished in 4:42:36, which I was quite please with for my first marathon. The dream was 4 hours, but my training didn't go as well as hoped due to a couple of bouts of sickness this year, so I'd revised that down to 5 hours.

I have a question for all you regular runners out there. I plan to run another marathon at some point and would like to go under 4:00 hours. How fast should I able able to run a 10k and half marathon in order for this to be a realistic target? I know we're all different, I'm just after a ball park figure. My plan at the moment is to try and get my 10k time down to 45 minutes, then my half time down to 1:45 and then train for the marathon again. Is that sensible?

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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VladD said:
I passed 815 and got passed by 165, so a net gain of 650. I finished in 4:42:36, which I was quite please with for my first marathon. The dream was 4 hours, but my training didn't go as well as hoped due to a couple of bouts of sickness this year, so I'd revised that down to 5 hours.

I have a question for all you regular runners out there. I plan to run another marathon at some point and would like to go under 4:00 hours. How fast should I able able to run a 10k and half marathon in order for this to be a realistic target? I know we're all different, I'm just after a ball park figure. My plan at the moment is to try and get my 10k time down to 45 minutes, then my half time down to 1:45 and then train for the marathon again. Is that sensible?
Well done! Sounds about right for target shorter race distances.

VladD

7,858 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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a boardman said:
and a bloke dressed as a big Mr cheese string.
He was a couple of hundred yards up the road from me for most of the race. Brave man.

The jiffle king

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6,915 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Went to a new running club in the US last night. What a great experience!
I walked in and there were 3 people who greeted me and made me (and my wife) feel welcome. We then had the briefing, I was given a small piece of paper with the route in case I got lost for any reason and then it was checked about the pace I wanted to run at. We set off and did the 6 mile (there were 4 miles and 2.5 mile options)

The pace was slower than I am used to, in fact the fastest person there had just set a Personal Record (not PB) or 1:42:xx for a half marathon, although he could run 1:30 if he got his pacing right.

It was a slow run relatively by past club standards but we were invited to dinner that evening as the club goes every week for food after the run and next week is a party paid for by a supplier to the shop where the club is based.

It was all a bit too easy from the running side for me, but my wife loved it as she was in the first couple of groups and it was very sociable. We'll go back to be sociable but I'll need to do a little more on my own to get fit again.

People also took the time to listen to our names, and used them at the end. There was no pressure to return, but a very welcoming atmosphere. One thing I found was that everyone had the gear..... they talked about the differences in kit and clearly spent some cash on their hobby.

Very different from the UK, but a great experience


ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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The jiffle king said:
Went to a new running club in the US last night. What a great experience!
I walked in and there were 3 people who greeted me and made me (and my wife) feel welcome. We then had the briefing, I was given a small piece of paper with the route in case I got lost for any reason and then it was checked about the pace I wanted to run at. We set off and did the 6 mile (there were 4 miles and 2.5 mile options)

The pace was slower than I am used to, in fact the fastest person there had just set a Personal Record (not PB) or 1:42:xx for a half marathon, although he could run 1:30 if he got his pacing right.

It was a slow run relatively by past club standards but we were invited to dinner that evening as the club goes every week for food after the run and next week is a party paid for by a supplier to the shop where the club is based.

It was all a bit too easy from the running side for me, but my wife loved it as she was in the first couple of groups and it was very sociable. We'll go back to be sociable but I'll need to do a little more on my own to get fit again.

People also took the time to listen to our names, and used them at the end. There was no pressure to return, but a very welcoming atmosphere. One thing I found was that everyone had the gear..... they talked about the differences in kit and clearly spent some cash on their hobby.

Very different from the UK, but a great experience

Sounds fantastic (apart from the pace). I'm often moaned about the unwelcoming feel of many UK running clubs. My experience of Americans in general is that they are good at using your name to get it in their memory and usually welcoming.

Perhaps after a few "sociable" visits to get known, you can suggest a faster group for those looking to improve more. Local hills?

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Well I cracked after 2 days and did 6 miles. Ended up with a 7:20avg which I will almost certainly regret doing tomorrow...

Tycho

11,610 posts

273 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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VladD said:
I passed 815 and got passed by 165, so a net gain of 650. I finished in 4:42:36, which I was quite please with for my first marathon. The dream was 4 hours, but my training didn't go as well as hoped due to a couple of bouts of sickness this year, so I'd revised that down to 5 hours.

I have a question for all you regular runners out there. I plan to run another marathon at some point and would like to go under 4:00 hours. How fast should I able able to run a 10k and half marathon in order for this to be a realistic target? I know we're all different, I'm just after a ball park figure. My plan at the moment is to try and get my 10k time down to 45 minutes, then my half time down to 1:45 and then train for the marathon again. Is that sensible?
Well done! I am in the same boat as you as I want to go sub 4:00. My current 1/2 is 1:46 so sub 4 should be doable.

At the moment I am trying to get my 5k down to 20ish as I am doing as Sept marathon and figure that if I concentrate on getting my comfortable pace up then the marathon plan I have should work on the distance. I'd say that if you can get your 10k down to 45 mins then that should give you enough to meet your 1/2 target as well.

The McMillan calculator seems to be well regarded:
https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/

Based on my 1/2 time then I should be able to get the marathon time down to 3:45 if I can just get my knees to hold out.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Tycho said:
VladD said:
I passed 815 and got passed by 165, so a net gain of 650. I finished in 4:42:36, which I was quite please with for my first marathon. The dream was 4 hours, but my training didn't go as well as hoped due to a couple of bouts of sickness this year, so I'd revised that down to 5 hours.

I have a question for all you regular runners out there. I plan to run another marathon at some point and would like to go under 4:00 hours. How fast should I able able to run a 10k and half marathon in order for this to be a realistic target? I know we're all different, I'm just after a ball park figure. My plan at the moment is to try and get my 10k time down to 45 minutes, then my half time down to 1:45 and then train for the marathon again. Is that sensible?
Well done! I am in the same boat as you as I want to go sub 4:00. My current 1/2 is 1:46 so sub 4 should be doable.

At the moment I am trying to get my 5k down to 20ish as I am doing as Sept marathon and figure that if I concentrate on getting my comfortable pace up then the marathon plan I have should work on the distance. I'd say that if you can get your 10k down to 45 mins then that should give you enough to meet your 1/2 target as well.

The McMillan calculator seems to be well regarded:
https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/

Based on my 1/2 time then I should be able to get the marathon time down to 3:45 if I can just get my knees to hold out.
Hmmm... you can already run for 1h45m at an average pace a fair bit faster than your target marathon pace - how much more "comfortable" do you need to be? I think you'd be better advised working on long threshold/tempo runs at or just faster than marathon pace to get used to sustained work for 2+hours at your target pace.

Unfortunately I know from experience that it's a lot easier to improve your 5k time than it is to do the long threshold/tempo runs!

Tycho

11,610 posts

273 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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ewenm said:
Hmmm... you can already run for 1h45m at an average pace a fair bit faster than your target marathon pace - how much more "comfortable" do you need to be? I think you'd be better advised working on long threshold/tempo runs at or just faster than marathon pace to get used to sustained work for 2+hours at your target pace.

Unfortunately I know from experience that it's a lot easier to improve your 5k time than it is to do the long threshold/tempo runs!
The way I see it at the moment is that the marathon training plan will get the long distances in so the more running and weight loss I can do before hand then the better on my knees for the longer runs. I've already lost 6lb in the last couple of months so I hope I can get rid of a bit more. I think that I'll be able to get decent weekend long runs in soon and the better the shape I am in when I start the training plan, the better the results.

If that makes sense. The biggest problem I have is that my knees last about 15 miles and then my pace drops right off.

VladD

7,858 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Tycho said:
VladD said:
I passed 815 and got passed by 165, so a net gain of 650. I finished in 4:42:36, which I was quite please with for my first marathon. The dream was 4 hours, but my training didn't go as well as hoped due to a couple of bouts of sickness this year, so I'd revised that down to 5 hours.

I have a question for all you regular runners out there. I plan to run another marathon at some point and would like to go under 4:00 hours. How fast should I able able to run a 10k and half marathon in order for this to be a realistic target? I know we're all different, I'm just after a ball park figure. My plan at the moment is to try and get my 10k time down to 45 minutes, then my half time down to 1:45 and then train for the marathon again. Is that sensible?
Well done! I am in the same boat as you as I want to go sub 4:00. My current 1/2 is 1:46 so sub 4 should be doable.

At the moment I am trying to get my 5k down to 20ish as I am doing as Sept marathon and figure that if I concentrate on getting my comfortable pace up then the marathon plan I have should work on the distance. I'd say that if you can get your 10k down to 45 mins then that should give you enough to meet your 1/2 target as well.

The McMillan calculator seems to be well regarded:
https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/

Based on my 1/2 time then I should be able to get the marathon time down to 3:45 if I can just get my knees to hold out.
Thanks Rob, that McMillan calculator is very good. My best half is just under 1:50, but that was 12 years ago. I think with a bit of dedication a 1:45 is possible, though it might take a while to get down to that time.

Yesterday I downloaded the Asics app to my Android phone. They also have an iPhone version and a web-site that do the same thing to build a tailored workout scheduled. I'd be interested to hear you opinion of that if you fancy having a look.

Tycho

11,610 posts

273 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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I'm no where near an expert, just an enthusiastic (most of the time) runner who is a bit overweight and has dodgy knees so take anything I say with a pinch of salt hehe

I looked a the app and it seems to take a lot of ideas from different places but I really like the way it will adjust if you have a day off. Personally I use Strava as it works on my watch and plan using Google Calendar but would like to be able to import plans into Strava.
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