The Running Thread

The Running Thread

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Dr Murdoch

3,427 posts

134 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Lotus Notes said:
Short run today at 10k pace, rest Friday and a gentle jog on Saturday..
Forgot to ask, gentle jog? How far and i'm assuming 10min miles?

Lotus Notes

1,197 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Dr Murdoch said:
Forgot to ask, gentle jog? How far and i'm assuming 10min miles?
I'd actually run a bit slower than that, a couple of miles just to get the nervous energy from your legs. Whilst tapering for a race, the object is to build-up glycogen levels in your liver and muscles. Your body will also be repairing muscle cell damage after training. The idea of a gentle jog is to relax and not stress the body.

Take that warm feeling into your race..

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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I think I have over-done the exertion and under-done the sleep and recovery over the past few weeks. I know I need to rest a bit more, but it is difficult when you are itching to get out and run (and ride).

Going *gentle* runs and walks with the family might do it.

ewenm

28,506 posts

244 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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Good couple of days for me. Long run home from work yesterday - Bristol Temple Meads station to Bath along the River Avon Trail: 13.5miles, 7:30/mile average. Tempo run Bath to Bitton and back today: 9.6miles 5:35/mile average.

ewenm

28,506 posts

244 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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MC Bodge said:
I think I have over-done the exertion and under-done the sleep and recovery over the past few weeks. I know I need to rest a bit more, but it is difficult when you are itching to get out and run (and ride).

Going *gentle* runs and walks with the family might do it.
This is why planning your exercise is important - it allows you to plan your recovery days properly too.

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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ewenm said:
MC Bodge said:
I think I have over-done the exertion and under-done the sleep and recovery over the past few weeks. I know I need to rest a bit more, but it is difficult when you are itching to get out and run (and ride).

Going *gentle* runs and walks with the family might do it.
This is why planning your exercise is important - it allows you to plan your recovery days properly too.
True.

I've had a a couple of intense (for me) weeks and had a very active weekend in the mountains last week, including a decent fell run (first such run in many years) and didn't really reduce the exercise enough this week.

I'll rest today and tomorrow and probably do an easy run on Sunday if I'm feeling refreshed.

Muzzer79

9,806 posts

186 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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I'm currently pretty narked due to a virtually-constantly injured 2015....

Had a glute problem flare up in January which I left too long and tried to run through until May.

Couldn't take it anymore, so fled to a physio.

Had that sorted in around 4 weeks, but 1 week later had a tibialis posterior problem that has physically stopped me running for coming-up to 3 weeks.

My withdrawal symptoms are massive and I am pissed off with the elliptical to keep some resemblance of fitness.

Why do these things always happen in the summer when the weather is good?

Target is back to semi-decent mileage within 4 weeks, just in time for the end of summer irked

SpydieNut

5,794 posts

222 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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Muzzer79 said:
I'm currently pretty narked due to a virtually-constantly injured 2015....

Had a glute problem flare up in January which I left too long and tried to run through until May.

Couldn't take it anymore, so fled to a physio.

Had that sorted in around 4 weeks, but 1 week later had a tibialis posterior problem that has physically stopped me running for coming-up to 3 weeks.

My withdrawal symptoms are massive and I am pissed off with the elliptical to keep some resemblance of fitness.

Why do these things always happen in the summer when the weather is good?

Target is back to semi-decent mileage within 4 weeks, just in time for the end of summer irked
join the club frown. i'm off with a stress fracture of my femur and have been since the end of May frown.

it is feeling better now and the plan was to give it until the 20th July, so fingers crossed, I'll be on the road again soon - I'll be getting back into it *very* gradually though.

i feel your pain, especially with all this good weather.

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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SpydieNut said:
join the club frown. i'm off with a stress fracture of my femur and have been since the end of May frown.

it is feeling better now and the plan was to give it until the 20th July, so fingers crossed, I'll be on the road again soon - I'll be getting back into it *very* gradually though.

i feel your pain, especially with all this good weather.
How did you stress fracture your femur????

SpydieNut

5,794 posts

222 months

Saturday 18th July 2015
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MC Bodge said:
How did you stress fracture your femur????
Increased distance too quickly. redface . The trip to S.A in May to do the Comrades was all planned. In Ocr last yer I sprained my calf and that took 10 wks to come right. So from Jan I started agaun and had to do a qualifying maeathon by end of April. So I did the good Friday trail marathon and then 2 weeks later did the Manchester Marathon.i was getting some pains in the front of my hip towards the end. I thougjt/hoped it was just a slight strain. Gave it a full 2 weeks off before the Comrades and it felt easier, but not quite right.

Oh well - live and learn smile.

I also discovered my right leg is 15mm shorter than my left. That can't have helped
I knew it was a little ahorter, but when measured in the past, was <10mm, which is apparently not significant.

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Saturday 18th July 2015
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SpydieNut said:
MC Bodge said:
How did you stress fracture your femur????
Increased distance too quickly. redface . The trip to S.A in May to do the Comrades was all planned. In Ocr last yer I sprained my calf and that took 10 wks to come right. So from Jan I started agaun and had to do a qualifying maeathon by end of April. So I did the good Friday trail marathon and then 2 weeks later did the Manchester Marathon.i was getting some pains in the front of my hip towards the end. I thougjt/hoped it was just a slight strain. Gave it a full 2 weeks off before the Comrades and it felt easier, but not quite right.

Oh well - live and learn smile.

I also discovered my right leg is 15mm shorter than my left. That can't have helped
I knew it was a little ahorter, but when measured in the past, was <10mm, which is apparently not significant.
Ouch. I presume that the leg length discrepancy contributed to it?

I would expected that muscles would have given up before the femur!

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Saturday 18th July 2015
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MC Bodge said:
ewenm said:
This is why planning your exercise is important - it allows you to plan your recovery days properly too.
True.

I've had a a couple of intense (for me) weeks and had a very active weekend in the mountains last week, including a decent fell run (first such run in many years) and didn't really reduce the exercise enough this week.

I'll rest today and tomorrow and probably do an easy run on Sunday if I'm feeling refreshed.
Well, the ravenous hunger (and chomping of food) that I've had for the past 2 days appears to have now subsided and I feel more energetic after a decent night's sleep.

Thinking about it, I may have been slightly off-colour this week as well as over-tired. Both of my children have been ill, albeit only for a couple of days.

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Sunday 19th July 2015
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II felt fine this morning, so I went for a run (mostly) along the river bank and associated trails. All felt good, so I threw in a bit more than planned.

I took it easy (HRM average mid 140s) and did 20km, which is the furthest I have run in about 9 years!

Had I realised the distance I had run, I'd have done a lap of the park to take it to a half marathon.

I felt fine, other than an aching foot, which seems to be easing off now.

Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 19th July 15:57

Dr Murdoch

3,427 posts

134 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Thanks to everyone who has given me advice over the last couple of months, I managed to knock 3 mins off of my PB and finish the 10k in 49.07. So thanks for your help. Here is a pic of the finish, I'm in there somewhere!


Dan_1981

17,351 posts

198 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Haven't run for about 6 or 7 years - used to do 5 / 10k on a regularish basis just to keep fit really.

Fancy getting back into it now and need new trainers - imagine this is a regualr question!

6 years ago gait analysis wasn't something i'd ever heard of, do I need it now or can I buy a decentish pair of trainers and be OK at the distances i'm thinking? (5 - 10 k again (eventually)

Sweatshop have a sale on at the moment

Mizuno Sayonara 2 @ £50 or
Asics GT1000 v3 @ £65

Both suitable for every day nothing too strenuous fitness improvement running?

Or should I actually go and get my gait analysed?!

Cheers

The jiffle king

Original Poster:

6,894 posts

257 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Dan_1981 said:
Haven't run for about 6 or 7 years - used to do 5 / 10k on a regularish basis just to keep fit really.

Fancy getting back into it now and need new trainers - imagine this is a regualr question!

6 years ago gait analysis wasn't something i'd ever heard of, do I need it now or can I buy a decentish pair of trainers and be OK at the distances i'm thinking? (5 - 10 k again (eventually)

Sweatshop have a sale on at the moment

Mizuno Sayonara 2 @ £50 or
Asics GT1000 v3 @ £65

Both suitable for every day nothing too strenuous fitness improvement running?

Or should I actually go and get my gait analysed?!

Cheers
Yes go and get your gait analyzed but also set yourself a goal or find a running club/partner to keep you motivated to keep running as it's this which means you lace up the shoes.

The shoes are key as it will depend if you are neutral/ponate etc and then you have a choice of shoes.

KTF

9,788 posts

149 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Dan_1981 said:
Mizuno Sayonara 2 @ £50 or
Asics GT1000 v3 @ £65
The Mizuno is a neutral shoe and the GT is a support shoe. Two different types of shoes, either of which may be OK (or not) but you wont know until you get your gait analysed.

Dont buy them based on price, buy them based on them being correct for your running style and the fit. Once you know the ones you should be wearing, then you can look online for last years colours, etc. if you want to get the ones you have been recommended a bit cheaper.

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

162 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Had a pretty rotten week of running just gone.

My scheduled 5k PB attempt was rudely scuppered by the strong winds. Went into it fully prepared with the right training, a mini-taper, great hydration, nutrition, sleep - everything that would possibly give me the edge. Theme of the season seems to be I'm constantly being cheated out of PBs.

Sunday long run was near enough into a constant head wind the entire way. Entered a tunnel and then some fool on a bike, talking on his phone, and wearing shades entered at the opposite end shortly after me. There wasn't enough room for both of us and he had the nerve to suggest I should have waited for him because he didn't want to "bump his cellphone". Had he have not been gassing or had taken his sunglasses off, he'd have clearly seen I was well into the tunnel already. Was half tempted to purposely knock the phone out of his hand - his bike was too wide for him to turnaround and chase after me, and it was less than half a mile to the next exit, which I could have made thanks to the adrenaline from the situation.

To top things off, I managed to give myself a first, possibly second degree burn to my right leg from an accident in the kitchen...

Lotus Notes

1,197 posts

190 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Dr Murdoch said:
Thanks to everyone who has given me advice over the last couple of months, I managed to knock 3 mins off of my PB and finish the 10k in 49.07. So thanks for your help. Here is a pic of the finish, I'm in there somewhere!

Well done DM, 3 mins off your PB means you smashed it! You're not the geezer with your hands up are you?

Dr Murdoch

3,427 posts

134 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Lotus Notes said:
Well done DM, 3 mins off your PB means you smashed it! You're not the geezer with your hands up are you?
Thanks.

Nope I'm near the back, wifey switched to video to record the blistering last 300m (the only thing blistering were my feet tbh!)
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