The Running Thread
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ewenm said:
Took the win in a local 5k yesterday. The course is out and back along the Bristol-Bath cyclepath starting at Bitton Station and heading 2.5k towards Bath and back. There's a slight descent on the way out and an awkward camber at times. Pleased to run 15:47 - my fastest 5k since 2006.
Superb 5k time. Well done. I managed a 10k today in 33:14 - pleased with that even if the winner beat me by one second!Can anyone help in best way to recover from a calf strain?!
I used to run a lot a year or so ago (sub 40min 10ks) and now with a year of doing nothing decided to get back running, 5 weeks into it and I strained my calf last thursday (well I think it's that). Have had it on ice, raised, stretch it etc but after 4 days rest doesn't seem much better...!
I have a 5k hill race this Sunday coming that I don't want to miss, would it be best just to rest completely till Sunday? If I feel it's no good I won't run but I don't want to think it's ok then half way it pulls again and I hobble to the finish!
Cheers all, also some amazing times on here...im currently running sub 22mins 5k but was hoping to get to 20mins before end of august but cant see that happening now
I used to run a lot a year or so ago (sub 40min 10ks) and now with a year of doing nothing decided to get back running, 5 weeks into it and I strained my calf last thursday (well I think it's that). Have had it on ice, raised, stretch it etc but after 4 days rest doesn't seem much better...!
I have a 5k hill race this Sunday coming that I don't want to miss, would it be best just to rest completely till Sunday? If I feel it's no good I won't run but I don't want to think it's ok then half way it pulls again and I hobble to the finish!
Cheers all, also some amazing times on here...im currently running sub 22mins 5k but was hoping to get to 20mins before end of august but cant see that happening now
Well the marathon training started well, 5 miles in and I checked my Forerunner to check pace, next thing I know I'm barrelling along the floor. I had been running alongside an old quarry and hadnt noticed the 8 inch steel cable poking out of the floor while I was checking pace.
Both hands scuffed, right arm bruised a bit, right leg shredded and bruised and the big toe on the foot that caught the cable is particularly sore.
Not to self, never assume the path ahead is safe, check area before checking pace
Both hands scuffed, right arm bruised a bit, right leg shredded and bruised and the big toe on the foot that caught the cable is particularly sore.
Not to self, never assume the path ahead is safe, check area before checking pace
Ouch indeed, and also kudos to ewenm on the win.
A little less racey here - a nice steady 10m/m ten miles, pushing the buggy again. Finally starting to get my HR down for the "easy" runs and get my head round my revised "post-chest infection" plan of just add mileage and screw the pace. If I can get to a point of endurance where 20 miles plus on a weekend is doable and comfortable, I'll be happy. SWMBO possibly less so... unless I keep taking the boy for his push-along picnic!
A little less racey here - a nice steady 10m/m ten miles, pushing the buggy again. Finally starting to get my HR down for the "easy" runs and get my head round my revised "post-chest infection" plan of just add mileage and screw the pace. If I can get to a point of endurance where 20 miles plus on a weekend is doable and comfortable, I'll be happy. SWMBO possibly less so... unless I keep taking the boy for his push-along picnic!
AbzST64 said:
Can anyone help in best way to recover from a calf strain?!
I used to run a lot a year or so ago (sub 40min 10ks) and now with a year of doing nothing decided to get back running, 5 weeks into it and I strained my calf last thursday (well I think it's that). Have had it on ice, raised, stretch it etc but after 4 days rest doesn't seem much better...!
I have a 5k hill race this Sunday coming that I don't want to miss, would it be best just to rest completely till Sunday? If I feel it's no good I won't run but I don't want to think it's ok then half way it pulls again and I hobble to the finish!
Cheers all, also some amazing times on here...im currently running sub 22mins 5k but was hoping to get to 20mins before end of august but cant see that happening now
Almost impossible to say - that's what sports physio appointments are for sadly. Sounds like you're doing the right sort of thing but hard to guess when it'll be better. Possibly some Vitamin I (Ibuprofen!) could help reduce inflamation.I used to run a lot a year or so ago (sub 40min 10ks) and now with a year of doing nothing decided to get back running, 5 weeks into it and I strained my calf last thursday (well I think it's that). Have had it on ice, raised, stretch it etc but after 4 days rest doesn't seem much better...!
I have a 5k hill race this Sunday coming that I don't want to miss, would it be best just to rest completely till Sunday? If I feel it's no good I won't run but I don't want to think it's ok then half way it pulls again and I hobble to the finish!
Cheers all, also some amazing times on here...im currently running sub 22mins 5k but was hoping to get to 20mins before end of august but cant see that happening now
RB Will said:
Well the marathon training started well, 5 miles in and I checked my Forerunner to check pace, next thing I know I'm barrelling along the floor. I had been running alongside an old quarry and hadnt noticed the 8 inch steel cable poking out of the floor while I was checking pace.
Both hands scuffed, right arm bruised a bit, right leg shredded and bruised and the big toe on the foot that caught the cable is particularly sore.
Not to self, never assume the path ahead is safe, check area before checking pace
Ooof! Sounds sore! I remember doing a fell race where I was concentrating very hard on a tussocky descent. Unfortunately the organiser was jogging round the other way and shouted across to me to check all was good. I turned my head to reply and immediately went head over heels down the hill! Less good after that Both hands scuffed, right arm bruised a bit, right leg shredded and bruised and the big toe on the foot that caught the cable is particularly sore.
Not to self, never assume the path ahead is safe, check area before checking pace
ewenm said:
Took the win in a local 5k yesterday. The course is out and back along the Bristol-Bath cyclepath starting at Bitton Station and heading 2.5k towards Bath and back. There's a slight descent on the way out and an awkward camber at times. Pleased to run 15:47 - my fastest 5k since 2006.
Was trying to get up to see the Glen Coe Skyline race this Saturday, that'd be a humdinger Mr E...Whilst staying in NE Wales I am taking the opportunity to run up (and more importantly, down) stony hills -back to the flatlands tomorrow. Having my done a few fell runs in the past month or so, I feel that I'm improving my downhill running and my feet are getting stronger.
I need to get more races in the diary though.
I need to get more races in the diary though.
Hi all,
I'm on to "week 2" of C25K now - I re-ran the first week while trying to change my cadence etc based on recommendations by you guys. It was very interesting - the first run I did aiming at 180SPM hurt. A lot. Peak heart rate arrived a lot earlier and my legs burned for three days afterwards.
Interestingly the recovery timer on the watch (which was saying 48 hours for the previous runs) noticed the change and recommended 72 hours rest.
After a few sessions it started to feel more "normal" and now I just glance at the watch occasionally as I seem to automatically hit 180SPM when I start running. Recovery time for the below run (first with longer intervals) is 30 hours.
Here's the science bit from the last run - is there anything else I should be looking at?
Once I get the cadence down pat I'm going to work on breathing - I think my "stich" is actually me trying to breathe deeper than I ever have before and stretching muscles. I think I habitually belly breathe and opening the ribcage is new.
After I stopped I walked downstairs to get a glass of water and on the way back up experienced a MASSIVE headrush (like a ciggy after a week of not smoking). Is this the fabled runners high?
I lost 4 pounds last week. I'm not the biggest lad in the world so I'm currently eating all the food...
I'm on to "week 2" of C25K now - I re-ran the first week while trying to change my cadence etc based on recommendations by you guys. It was very interesting - the first run I did aiming at 180SPM hurt. A lot. Peak heart rate arrived a lot earlier and my legs burned for three days afterwards.
Interestingly the recovery timer on the watch (which was saying 48 hours for the previous runs) noticed the change and recommended 72 hours rest.
After a few sessions it started to feel more "normal" and now I just glance at the watch occasionally as I seem to automatically hit 180SPM when I start running. Recovery time for the below run (first with longer intervals) is 30 hours.
Here's the science bit from the last run - is there anything else I should be looking at?
Once I get the cadence down pat I'm going to work on breathing - I think my "stich" is actually me trying to breathe deeper than I ever have before and stretching muscles. I think I habitually belly breathe and opening the ribcage is new.
After I stopped I walked downstairs to get a glass of water and on the way back up experienced a MASSIVE headrush (like a ciggy after a week of not smoking). Is this the fabled runners high?
I lost 4 pounds last week. I'm not the biggest lad in the world so I'm currently eating all the food...
cwis said:
Hi all,
I'm on to "week 2" of C25K now - I re-ran the first week while trying to change my cadence etc based on recommendations by you guys. It was very interesting - the first run I did aiming at 180SPM hurt. A lot. Peak heart rate arrived a lot earlier and my legs burned for three days afterwards.
Interestingly the recovery timer on the watch (which was saying 48 hours for the previous runs) noticed the change and recommended 72 hours rest.
After a few sessions it started to feel more "normal" and now I just glance at the watch occasionally as I seem to automatically hit 180SPM when I start running. Recovery time for the below run (first with longer intervals) is 30 hours.
Here's the science bit from the last run - is there anything else I should be looking at?
Once I get the cadence down pat I'm going to work on breathing - I think my "stich" is actually me trying to breathe deeper than I ever have before and stretching muscles. I think I habitually belly breathe and opening the ribcage is new.
After I stopped I walked downstairs to get a glass of water and on the way back up experienced a MASSIVE headrush (like a ciggy after a week of not smoking). Is this the fabled runners high?
I lost 4 pounds last week. I'm not the biggest lad in the world so I'm currently eating all the food...
No offence or anything intended but I think your over thinking it. I find my cadence/breathing/posture are best when I don't think about them. I'm on to "week 2" of C25K now - I re-ran the first week while trying to change my cadence etc based on recommendations by you guys. It was very interesting - the first run I did aiming at 180SPM hurt. A lot. Peak heart rate arrived a lot earlier and my legs burned for three days afterwards.
Interestingly the recovery timer on the watch (which was saying 48 hours for the previous runs) noticed the change and recommended 72 hours rest.
After a few sessions it started to feel more "normal" and now I just glance at the watch occasionally as I seem to automatically hit 180SPM when I start running. Recovery time for the below run (first with longer intervals) is 30 hours.
Here's the science bit from the last run - is there anything else I should be looking at?
Once I get the cadence down pat I'm going to work on breathing - I think my "stich" is actually me trying to breathe deeper than I ever have before and stretching muscles. I think I habitually belly breathe and opening the ribcage is new.
After I stopped I walked downstairs to get a glass of water and on the way back up experienced a MASSIVE headrush (like a ciggy after a week of not smoking). Is this the fabled runners high?
I lost 4 pounds last week. I'm not the biggest lad in the world so I'm currently eating all the food...
When I started I just concentrated on getting the 9 weeks done when I did c25k, getting into the habit of running 3 times a week and drinking plenty of water.
Once I could run 5km I started to think about how I could improve, changing to ball striking, shortening my stride, leaning forward, having a more natural hand position lower down and getting my breathing to be a more natural & slower. Things still aren't right but it just takes time.
Foliage said:
No offence or anything intended but I think your over thinking it. I find my cadence/breathing/posture are best when I don't think about them.
When I started I just concentrated on getting the 9 weeks done when I did c25k, getting into the habit of running 3 times a week and drinking plenty of water.
Once I could run 5km I started to think about how I could improve, changing to ball striking, shortening my stride, leaning forward, having a more natural hand position lower down and getting my breathing to be a more natural & slower. Things still aren't right but it just takes time.
Non taken, but we're all different and I'm not you.When I started I just concentrated on getting the 9 weeks done when I did c25k, getting into the habit of running 3 times a week and drinking plenty of water.
Once I could run 5km I started to think about how I could improve, changing to ball striking, shortening my stride, leaning forward, having a more natural hand position lower down and getting my breathing to be a more natural & slower. Things still aren't right but it just takes time.
I want to start off with good habits, while everything is so new and my body isn't accustomed to any particular style or rhythm. The way my mind works is that if I start doing something new consciously, I do it a few times and it becomes automatic. The same with bad habits - if I get accustomed to doing something badly, it's very hard for me to change it.
The points raised could save me from injury and will probably get me up to speed faster.
I can already "run" 5K. I'm doing the C25K program because it was recommended by this thread. If I'm doing that, I may as well do it properly.
But you also raise a good point: Don't over think it!
cwis said:
Foliage said:
No offence or anything intended but I think your over thinking it. I find my cadence/breathing/posture are best when I don't think about them.
When I started I just concentrated on getting the 9 weeks done when I did c25k, getting into the habit of running 3 times a week and drinking plenty of water.
Once I could run 5km I started to think about how I could improve, changing to ball striking, shortening my stride, leaning forward, having a more natural hand position lower down and getting my breathing to be a more natural & slower. Things still aren't right but it just takes time.
Non taken, but we're all different and I'm not you.When I started I just concentrated on getting the 9 weeks done when I did c25k, getting into the habit of running 3 times a week and drinking plenty of water.
Once I could run 5km I started to think about how I could improve, changing to ball striking, shortening my stride, leaning forward, having a more natural hand position lower down and getting my breathing to be a more natural & slower. Things still aren't right but it just takes time.
I want to start off with good habits, while everything is so new and my body isn't accustomed to any particular style or rhythm. The way my mind works is that if I start doing something new consciously, I do it a few times and it becomes automatic. The same with bad habits - if I get accustomed to doing something badly, it's very hard for me to change it.
The points raised could save me from injury and will probably get me up to speed faster.
I can already "run" 5K. I'm doing the C25K program because it was recommended by this thread. If I'm doing that, I may as well do it properly.
But you also raise a good point: Don't over think it!
Foliage said:
5km Tuesday and Thursday morning and 10km on a sunday afternoon.
Are they all at a similar pace? Ideally you would have 1x speed work, 1x mid distance but quicker than long run pace and 1x long run (with maybe a parkrun mixed in as well).That way your body gets used to running at different pace/distances. If you are going out and doing the same stuff every week then it will take longer to make an impact.
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