The Running Thread
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MattS3 said:
MC Bodge said:
I now seem to have developed the early stages of plantar fascitis. Grrrr 
After this weekend's race I'll probably rest from running.
Plenty of calf stretching and this http://www.johnlewis.com/gaiam-restore-hot-cold-fo...After this weekend's race I'll probably rest from running.
Sorted mine in 2-3 weeks and I'd been suffering for 3 or 4 months.
(some people recommend a frozen bottle of water, but I could never get decent rolls out of water bottle as they always curved away with the angle of my foot)
Had a jog out last night with the "other" running club who are really interested in Tri's. The only run they were doing was a 3 miles route which frankly was barely worth it. I go there to be sociable, but after the first half mile was slower than 9:30 pace, I decided to stretch my legs and do a 2.5 miles tempo.
Running watch question:
I used to love my Jawbone UP for plugging into the ipad and seeing my steps and sleep. It broke too often and now I am also looking for a new running watch. I can get cheap fitbits at work across the whole range, but want the watch to do the following:
GPS/distance
upload to strava - so I can get elevation as well
steps in a day
sleep if possible
Bluetooth sync
act as a training log so I can see where my pace varied etc afterwards
Does all the standard running watch things
Needs a battery which lasts 3+ days due to my work travel if possible
What are the best options out there?
ewenm said:
I've recently splashed out on a Garmin 920XT - does everything you want (and more) but at a price!
Does it do sleep as well? It looks amazing and better than my Garmin 305 or my very old brick like 205. Being multi-sport helps.
Does is get reception quickly and how do you find the accuracy of the routes?
The jiffle king said:
ewenm said:
I've recently splashed out on a Garmin 920XT - does everything you want (and more) but at a price!
Does it do sleep as well? It looks amazing and better than my Garmin 305 or my very old brick like 205. Being multi-sport helps.
Does is get reception quickly and how do you find the accuracy of the routes?
Reception is great because it updates the GPS details via your phone/computer when you sync. I rarely have to wait more than 5s for it to pic up a signal. The only issue I've had is if I ask it to start searching while still inside - I think it might fail to find the expected satellites so then be searching from scratch by the time I get outside.
Route accuracy is fine, I've had no issue at all with that. Once or twice the watch itself has had an issue but then when uploaded to phone and Strava the track is as expected. I got the HRM+ with it that does geeky things like cadence, ground contact time and vertical oscillation too.
ewenm said:
geeky things like cadence, ground contact time and vertical oscillation too.
Blimey, that is way too geeky/techie for me, but I love the other features. I need to think about what I want as an all in 1 watch would be great for me, but I also have a pebble which I also like. The other thing is that if I get one, TJQ will want one, so its a double purchase 
ewenm said:
Reception is great because it updates the GPS details via your phone/computer when you sync. I rarely have to wait more than 5s for it to pic up a signal. The only issue I've had is if I ask it to start searching while still inside - I think it might fail to find the expected satellites so then be searching from scratch by the time I get outside.
Do you have to sync it with your phone regularly for it to pick up GPS quickly? My TomTom Multisport watch is annoying for this - I need to sync it every two days or it takes ~20 mins to pick up a sat!ewenm said:
Yes it does sleep and steps etc.
Reception is great because it updates the GPS details via your phone/computer when you sync. I rarely have to wait more than 5s for it to pic up a signal. The only issue I've had is if I ask it to start searching while still inside - I think it might fail to find the expected satellites so then be searching from scratch by the time I get outside.
Route accuracy is fine, I've had no issue at all with that. Once or twice the watch itself has had an issue but then when uploaded to phone and Strava the track is as expected. I got the HRM+ with it that does geeky things like cadence, ground contact time and vertical oscillation too.
Sounds good - the Garmin track appears to be more accurate when converted into Strava from what I've read, mine over-reads but consistently but I think we've got different antennae anyway.Reception is great because it updates the GPS details via your phone/computer when you sync. I rarely have to wait more than 5s for it to pic up a signal. The only issue I've had is if I ask it to start searching while still inside - I think it might fail to find the expected satellites so then be searching from scratch by the time I get outside.
Route accuracy is fine, I've had no issue at all with that. Once or twice the watch itself has had an issue but then when uploaded to phone and Strava the track is as expected. I got the HRM+ with it that does geeky things like cadence, ground contact time and vertical oscillation too.
marting said:
Do you have to sync it with your phone regularly for it to pick up GPS quickly? My TomTom Multisport watch is annoying for this - I need to sync it every two days or it takes ~20 mins to pick up a sat!
Don't know. I tend to sync it fairly often as I use Bluetooth and 4G to upload the data after runcommutes or lunch runs at work.The jiffle king said:
Had a jog out last night with the "other" running club who are really interested in Tri's. The only run they were doing was a 3 miles route which frankly was barely worth it. I go there to be sociable, but after the first half mile was slower than 9:30 pace, I decided to stretch my legs and do a 2.5 miles tempo.
Running watch question:
I used to love my Jawbone UP for plugging into the ipad and seeing my steps and sleep. It broke too often and now I am also looking for a new running watch. I can get cheap fitbits at work across the whole range, but want the watch to do the following:
GPS/distance
upload to strava - so I can get elevation as well
steps in a day
sleep if possible
Bluetooth sync
act as a training log so I can see where my pace varied etc afterwards
Does all the standard running watch things
Needs a battery which lasts 3+ days due to my work travel if possible
What are the best options out there?
Mrs 645 has the vivoactive from garmin that does all of the above and handles cycling and swimming as well. it also looks OK as a every day watch. Running watch question:
I used to love my Jawbone UP for plugging into the ipad and seeing my steps and sleep. It broke too often and now I am also looking for a new running watch. I can get cheap fitbits at work across the whole range, but want the watch to do the following:
GPS/distance
upload to strava - so I can get elevation as well
steps in a day
sleep if possible
Bluetooth sync
act as a training log so I can see where my pace varied etc afterwards
Does all the standard running watch things
Needs a battery which lasts 3+ days due to my work travel if possible
What are the best options out there?
marting said:
Do you have to sync it with your phone regularly for it to pick up GPS quickly? My TomTom Multisport watch is annoying for this - I need to sync it every two days or it takes ~20 mins to pick up a sat!
I believe the newer Garmins obtain new satellite data each time time they sync, whether by USB, wifi or mobile data. Data should also be valid for 7 days, so as long as you're running and syncing at least once a week, you should be able to take advantage of it.Hoping to nail my third 40+ mile week in a row before I taper for next week's Cardiff Half Marathon. Feeling damn good at the moment and think I'm definitely in 86 minute territory, but there's a slight chance I can dip into the 85s if things go very well. Crazy to think when I first ran it in 2011, it took me 2:18 to complete!
Edited by Cybertronian on Thursday 24th September 11:20
ewenm said:
MattS3 said:
MC Bodge said:
I now seem to have developed the early stages of plantar fascitis. Grrrr
After this weekend's race I'll probably rest from running.
Plenty of calf stretching and this http://www.johnlewis.com/gaiam-restore-hot-cold-fo...After this weekend's race I'll probably rest from running.
Sorted mine in 2-3 weeks and I'd been suffering for 3 or 4 months.
(some people recommend a frozen bottle of water, but I could never get decent rolls out of water bottle as they always curved away with the angle of my foot)
I will probably go to the Physio next week.
Cybertronian said:
Hoping to nail my third 40+ mile week in a row before I taper for next week's Cardiff Half Marathon. Feeling damn good at the moment and think I'm definitely in 86 minute territory, but there's a slight chance I can dip into the 85s if things go very well. Crazy to think when I first ran it in 2011, it took me 2:18 to complete!
Wow - fair play on both target time and improvement. I shall be there too - lurking at the back with a massive yellow pushchair and my ten month old, for his first race. Sub two hours would do me for sure, though I do have a handy way of carrying drinks and snacks...Edited by Cybertronian on Thursday 24th September 11:20
Smitters said:
Wow - fair play on both target time and improvement. I shall be there too - lurking at the back with a massive yellow pushchair and my ten month old, for his first race. Sub two hours would do me for sure, though I do have a handy way of carrying drinks and snacks...
As long as he doesn't start tucking into them! 
I'll try and keep an eye out for you both. If you've yet to decide on a place to park, I can recommend the St Davids 2 shopping centre. Plenty of toilets right by the entrance/exit and it's only a couple of quid for 5 hours or so.
Cybertronian said:
As long as he doesn't start tucking into them!
I'll try and keep an eye out for you both. If you've yet to decide on a place to park, I can recommend the St Davids 2 shopping centre. Plenty of toilets right by the entrance/exit and it's only a couple of quid for 5 hours or so.
Sweet - and a good tip for parking, especially with the loos! We'll be there really early as I'm running 14km beforehand and making this a long run for my mara training, albeit with some support in the second half and the O/H will be feeding the wee man breakfast in, I imagine, a superbly sunny park. Or possibly a Costa Coffee...I'll try and keep an eye out for you both. If you've yet to decide on a place to park, I can recommend the St Davids 2 shopping centre. Plenty of toilets right by the entrance/exit and it's only a couple of quid for 5 hours or so.
I guess I should get a smiley for the buggy!
If last weekend's half marathon time-trial was a good benchmark for my current speed, then Sunday's LSD was as good, if not better as a measure for my endurance. I ran a local charity walk, 33 hilly kms, 840m of climbing, and managed, after emptying myself in the last three km, to bring it in under four hours (3.59.59 when the checkpoint added the last stamp to my checkpoint map). To say I was chuffed is an understatement and I really feel like I'm happy about tackling a road marathon in a month now. In MarathonTalk terms, it was a 10 out of 10.
I also met a cool guy in his 50's who was doing the same circuit as a training run for the Kalahari Augrabies Extreme Marathon, which is apparently like the MdS, but (his words) "actually hard". Instead of thousands of competitors, there are 100, so you need your wits about you on navigation, and also due to the isolation. Use it or lose it was his advice, fitness wise. He also suggested that rotating your socks during a long event every checkpoint or so, and letting the second pair air and dry out was key in foot preservation. Add to this a shake out of the shoes and insoles to really clear out grit at the same time and it should help. His not having to visit the scalpel-wielding Doc Trotters at MdS seems to bear this strategy out.
Anyway, a top day out, though I'm pretty tired today.
I also met a cool guy in his 50's who was doing the same circuit as a training run for the Kalahari Augrabies Extreme Marathon, which is apparently like the MdS, but (his words) "actually hard". Instead of thousands of competitors, there are 100, so you need your wits about you on navigation, and also due to the isolation. Use it or lose it was his advice, fitness wise. He also suggested that rotating your socks during a long event every checkpoint or so, and letting the second pair air and dry out was key in foot preservation. Add to this a shake out of the shoes and insoles to really clear out grit at the same time and it should help. His not having to visit the scalpel-wielding Doc Trotters at MdS seems to bear this strategy out.
Anyway, a top day out, though I'm pretty tired today.
Smitters said:
I guess I should get a smiley for the buggy!
Ordered!Was in Chicago at the weekend so had a nice jog around the city but also managed to walk 35k steps on Saturday and more than 23k on Sunday, so calves are a bit tight.
Ran a gentle one with the club tonight and got a race on Saturday "Race around the Park" in Atlanta where teams of 5 compete in a relay race of about 5k each. The winners last year did 1:34:xx. We were thinking that we could do about 1:40 ish but the course is supposed to have hills. First time I have ever done a relay 5k and looking forward to it
Ran a gentle one with the club tonight and got a race on Saturday "Race around the Park" in Atlanta where teams of 5 compete in a relay race of about 5k each. The winners last year did 1:34:xx. We were thinking that we could do about 1:40 ish but the course is supposed to have hills. First time I have ever done a relay 5k and looking forward to it
Finished my first Marathon in Berlin on Sunday, absolutely loved it!
Amazing experience and great support from the crowd. The cheering fans, bands, drummers and guys playing German Horns really kept me motivated
I started out much too fast following the sea of runners, I eventually found a pacer (3:30) and stuck behind him for about half of the race. However as the race went on it was clear I couldn't keep up, my legs felt horrendous by 35km but I managed to get across the line in 3:43
I was chatting to a guy on the plane on the way home. He said he didn't bring any gels with him, so when he arrived at an aid station he picked up a handful and consumed 7 in one go
that cant be good for the guts...
Despite training for about 8 months, nothing prepared me for how broken my legs felt the day after. Wow!
Amazing experience and great support from the crowd. The cheering fans, bands, drummers and guys playing German Horns really kept me motivated
I started out much too fast following the sea of runners, I eventually found a pacer (3:30) and stuck behind him for about half of the race. However as the race went on it was clear I couldn't keep up, my legs felt horrendous by 35km but I managed to get across the line in 3:43
I was chatting to a guy on the plane on the way home. He said he didn't bring any gels with him, so when he arrived at an aid station he picked up a handful and consumed 7 in one go
that cant be good for the guts...Despite training for about 8 months, nothing prepared me for how broken my legs felt the day after. Wow!
marting said:
Finished my first Marathon in Berlin on Sunday, absolutely loved it!
Amazing experience and great support from the crowd. The cheering fans, bands, drummers and guys playing German Horns really kept me motivated
I started out much too fast following the sea of runners, I eventually found a pacer (3:30) and stuck behind him for about half of the race. However as the race went on it was clear I couldn't keep up, my legs felt horrendous by 35km but I managed to get across the line in 3:43
I was chatting to a guy on the plane on the way home. He said he didn't bring any gels with him, so when he arrived at an aid station he picked up a handful and consumed 7 in one go that cant be good for the guts...
Despite training for about 8 months, nothing prepared me for how broken my legs felt the day after. Wow!
Congratulations on completing your first marathon!!! I say first marathon as you clearly have the running bug and the others are easier as you know what is coming. Glad you enjoyed the experience and it's a good timeAmazing experience and great support from the crowd. The cheering fans, bands, drummers and guys playing German Horns really kept me motivated
I started out much too fast following the sea of runners, I eventually found a pacer (3:30) and stuck behind him for about half of the race. However as the race went on it was clear I couldn't keep up, my legs felt horrendous by 35km but I managed to get across the line in 3:43
I was chatting to a guy on the plane on the way home. He said he didn't bring any gels with him, so when he arrived at an aid station he picked up a handful and consumed 7 in one go
that cant be good for the guts...Despite training for about 8 months, nothing prepared me for how broken my legs felt the day after. Wow!
marting said:
Finished my first Marathon in Berlin on Sunday, absolutely loved it!
Amazing experience and great support from the crowd. The cheering fans, bands, drummers and guys playing German Horns really kept me motivated
I started out much too fast following the sea of runners, I eventually found a pacer (3:30) and stuck behind him for about half of the race. However as the race went on it was clear I couldn't keep up, my legs felt horrendous by 35km but I managed to get across the line in 3:43
I was chatting to a guy on the plane on the way home. He said he didn't bring any gels with him, so when he arrived at an aid station he picked up a handful and consumed 7 in one go that cant be good for the guts...
Despite training for about 8 months, nothing prepared me for how broken my legs felt the day after. Wow!
Amazing, well done Amazing experience and great support from the crowd. The cheering fans, bands, drummers and guys playing German Horns really kept me motivated
I started out much too fast following the sea of runners, I eventually found a pacer (3:30) and stuck behind him for about half of the race. However as the race went on it was clear I couldn't keep up, my legs felt horrendous by 35km but I managed to get across the line in 3:43
I was chatting to a guy on the plane on the way home. He said he didn't bring any gels with him, so when he arrived at an aid station he picked up a handful and consumed 7 in one go
that cant be good for the guts...Despite training for about 8 months, nothing prepared me for how broken my legs felt the day after. Wow!
I'm thinking of doing the Berlin Marathon next year so good to hear it's a nice atmosphere etc to run in. Have applied for London 2016 but know that chances of getting in are very slim so never count on it so think of doing maybe Paris or Geneva so will see! Will be my first marathon too
Edited by AbzST64 on Tuesday 29th September 16:25
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