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The Running Thread

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ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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tenohfive said:
One for the fell runners:

Tights for winter use for fell races, for a beginner that is likely to be moving slowly at times and feels the cold. Any recommendations? Whilst I won't say budget not an issue, I don't want to have to buy twice either.
Nike DriFit are my preference.

MC Bodge

21,650 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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tenohfive said:
One for the fell runners:

Tights for winter use for fell races, for a beginner that is likely to be moving slowly at times and feels the cold. Any recommendations? Whilst I won't say budget not an issue, I don't want to have to buy twice either.
The old favourite, Ron Hill Tracksters?

I've had a few pairs over the years, although the latest ones I bought are a bit baggy. I'm not sure if there are different styles. My favourite pair died after about 18years.

markh1973

1,814 posts

169 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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AWG said:
Is today the day we find out about London Marathon?
Got my rejection through today - as did a lot of my fellow club runners. Only people I know who are in so dar have good for age paces.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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ewenm said:
Nike DriFit are my preference.
I'll check them out, ta.

MC Bodge said:
The old favourite, Ron Hill Tracksters?
I've had a few pairs over the years, although the latest ones I bought are a bit baggy. I'm not sure if there are different styles. My favourite pair died after about 18years.
I've got a pair of tracksters already and they're fine, but as you say they're quite baggy. Found them fine for normal road and trail running but up high in 80mph winds or snow I'm worried they'll not be quite up to scratch. And I want something with ankle zips for convenience off and on.

I'm also considering a pair of windproof running trousers, something pertex based like the Inov8 Race Elite 85 or Montane Featherlite's. Whilst I am gram counting, sub 100g for a decent windproof seems like a sensible 'just in case,' layer and something handy to have in the car in case conditions on the day merit them. But I'm wary of buying kit for kits sake. Any thoughts?

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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I done a fair bit of winter mountain/fell running in the Lakes and not yet needed wind/waterproof running trousers, even when doing High Street in the snow. I tend to stay warm by keeping moving. That said, carrying the emergency kit is sensible - I think the Inov8 Race Ultra waterproofs are going on my Christmas list.

MC Bodge

21,650 posts

176 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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tenohfive said:
I've got a pair of tracksters already and they're fine, but as you say they're quite baggy. Found them fine for normal road and trail running but up high in 80mph winds or snow I'm worried they'll not be quite up to scratch. And I want something with ankle zips for convenience off and on.
As I said, I had a pair from the mid 90s that fitted really well and tight enough around the legs and were my first choice of mountaineering and running trousers. I had another pair that were nominally the same (Size L , black with white stripe) , but were baggier. I have a pair of a different model from the mid 00's that fit well and another pair that I had to return due to poor fit. The latest pair are comfy, but loose around my fairly large legs.

Maybe they just have poor quality control?

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Another London Mara failure here. Boo, not that I thought 1:17 was good odds...

Berlin Mike

266 posts

198 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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MC Bodge said:
marting said:
Has anyone run the Stockholm Marathon before?
Yes, Most of the participants
Participants? That includes me!

I ran the Stockholm Anniversary Marathon about three years ago. It was pretty close to mid-summer but the weather was cold (5 centigrade) and wind and continuous rain. No plastic sheets at the finish either. I have never been so cold after a race.
The course was a bit hilly and wandered off into the countryside at about half way. As well as the usual food and drink there was warm soup (which had gone cold) and gigantic pickled gherkins (which I didn't fancy after 25km or so).

Time: 3:05:05, so the soup should have at least been warm!

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Got to meet Steve Jones this evening at a talk ahead of the Cardiff Half tomorrow. Nice guy, though clearly quite bemused by all the fuss his British marathon record receives - he just saw himself as a regular bloke!

ocrx8

868 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Rubbish 10k @ Southend today. No marshall at a key point (new route this year) so we took a wrong turn (as did the rest of the runners) which added on an extra 0.2 miles.

Frustrating... it's not exactly a small race either.

marting

668 posts

175 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Berlin Mike said:
Participants? That includes me!

I ran the Stockholm Anniversary Marathon about three years ago. It was pretty close to mid-summer but the weather was cold (5 centigrade) and wind and continuous rain. No plastic sheets at the finish either. I have never been so cold after a race.
The course was a bit hilly and wandered off into the countryside at about half way. As well as the usual food and drink there was warm soup (which had gone cold) and gigantic pickled gherkins (which I didn't fancy after 25km or so).

Time: 3:05:05, so the soup should have at least been warm!
Pickled Gherkins! How strange!

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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86:44 at the Cardiff Half for a 48 second PB. Brain is now fried and body is broken!

Anecdotally, a lot of the guys I finished with went on to also run PBs but generally agreed the slight course changes here and there slowed things down a touch during the middle miles.

krallicious

4,312 posts

206 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Good time for the half!

Came back from a 12.7k a little while ago. Took 74 minutes which was very poor but I have been fasting for 6 days so it was to be expected. 3 weeks to go!

MC Bodge

21,650 posts

176 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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krallicious said:
Came back from a 12.7k a little while ago. Took 74 minutes which was very poor but I have been fasting for 6 days
May I suggest a change to your eating plan?

ExV8

3,642 posts

216 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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I have just entered two half marathons, one on a Tuesday with the other the following Friday. I think the first will be PB potential but have no idea what to do to recover for the second?

I entered for the experience although suspect it may hurt a little.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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ewenm said:
I done a fair bit of winter mountain/fell running in the Lakes and not yet needed wind/waterproof running trousers, even when doing High Street in the snow. I tend to stay warm by keeping moving. That said, carrying the emergency kit is sensible - I think the Inov8 Race Ultra waterproofs are going on my Christmas list.
As my fitness gets better I'm sure I'll be doing the same (not sure I'll reach your level mind) but I still quite like the look of windproof trousers, they seem handy to have in the wardrobe for when the conditions might justify shorts, might not. And £30 isn't much money. But if it's Christmas shopping I'd probably take the Montane Minimus Pants over the Inov8's, they look more adjustable and Pertex Shield is a pretty safe bet on the waterproofing front.

MC Bodge said:
The latest pair are comfy, but loose around my fairly large legs.

Maybe they just have poor quality control?
I think they're meant to be that way, they're the 'not so revealing' runners tight aren't they?
Can't knock them, they're warm enough for most weather but I feel like treating myself to something better fitted and featured for something like fell running.

The jiffle king

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6,917 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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The relay race around the park was cancelled due to the potential bad weather (Hurricane coming) so 4 of us had a very gentle 6 mile run yesterday and then we were joined by 3 more and we played pool, table tennis and had some food.

Went out for 6.5 this afternoon and just missed the rain. Was going to do 10, but realized I need to run home from work before the club run tomorrow night, so took it easy.

cwis

1,159 posts

180 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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A question about runner's etiquette and to see if there any tricks we've not thought of:

I pootled round the park again this weekend with the chap I started running with and his other half, what 6 weeks or so ago. He's been busy at work and hasn't put many miles in. I've been doing the couch 2 5K faithfully, and been getting steadily fitter.

I kept running away from them and had to keep knocking my pace right back. We both had to double back at one point because his other half vanished behind us.

Is there a course of action we should follow in this circumstance? Should I put in an extra loop so as not to slow down or should I just run slower and stay with them? Or should I just carry on (at the same, slow pace) once they stop and put some extra miles in?

I don't want to drag them along too fast so they stop, but I also want to get some benefit from the running. But we want to run together.

I was comfortable with a 6.45 pace (over a km - stop laughing fast people!) but they were more like a 7:30 (which was killing me a few weeks ago so I'm chuffed at one level!).

We want to lengthen this run as we get faster and make it a regular part of our regime, so any techniques to level out the paces would be welcome - we joked about making me carry a rucksack and weighting it, for example.

Any ideas? Is a very slow run doing me good anyway so we should stop worrying about it? I was all zone 2 and 3 according to the HRM.

ED209

5,746 posts

245 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Smitters said:
Another London Mara failure here. Boo, not that I thought 1:17 was good odds...
Me and the wife both missed out, still the running club have 3 places i think and the odds are slightly better in the draw for those places. Its open to anyone rejected in the normal ballot.

Part of me doesn't want to do it though, i can't really be arsed with training for another marathon.

krallicious

4,312 posts

206 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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MC Bodge said:
krallicious said:
Came back from a 12.7k a little while ago. Took 74 minutes which was very poor but I have been fasting for 6 days
May I suggest a change to your eating plan?
No need to at the moment. I have until Wednesday and then will be introducing solid food again. I have been drinking fruit/vegetable juice and/or soomthies. This is not something I do very often but I need to lose around 5kg before the marathon as I enjoyed the summer far too much!
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