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Cybertronian said:
I simply increased my carb intake and slightly reduced my consumption of protein in the couple of days leading up to race day. You don't want to overdo the carbs where you may end up feeling bloated. I also changed my food up so it was slightly more bland for fear of having anything that disagreed with me. Have you got your dinner plans sorted for the evening before the race if you're staying over in London? Book a table and then you know you're sorted.
I find increasing my water intake slightly leading up to the race can certainly help, but again don't overdo it especially on race morning. You'll be kicking yourself if you end up having to stop for toilet breaks every few miles!
Yes, I have read that the carb loading will make you feel bloated and I already have a high carb diet so slight tweaking rather than piling it on seems to be better as you say.I find increasing my water intake slightly leading up to the race can certainly help, but again don't overdo it especially on race morning. You'll be kicking yourself if you end up having to stop for toilet breaks every few miles!
We have arranged to stay with relatives near Croydon the night before so dinner will be a spaghetti bolognese or similar which is what I have been having on the Saturdays evenings before my long training runs so nothing unusual there.
Am sticking by the golden rule of never changing anything on race day so I dont think I will be loading up on water on the day for fear of frequent visits to the facilities as you say
On the other marathons I have run I have blown up around mile 18 - 21 due to lack of energy rather rather than lack of water and switching from gels to energy bars seems to have helped that. There is water available every mile from mile 3 on the day and I have been training with it as well so that should be OK.
If push comes to shove, I think I would rather piss myself on the way round than have to stop and lose time going to one of the toilets but I would rather avoid that situation in the first place
Running every day this week as on hols and nice weather. Planning on doing 17k ish tomorrow which should be fun but finding it hurting more.
Not sure how you get over 21k? I am pretty much worn out on 17-22k. For those that run long how do you condition your mind , especially in training?
Not sure how you get over 21k? I am pretty much worn out on 17-22k. For those that run long how do you condition your mind , especially in training?
KTF said:
Yes, I have read that the carb loading will make you feel bloated and I already have a high carb diet so slight tweaking rather than piling it on seems to be better as you say.
We have arranged to stay with relatives near Croydon the night before so dinner will be a spaghetti bolognese or similar which is what I have been having on the Saturdays evenings before my long training runs so nothing unusual there.
Am sticking by the golden rule of never changing anything on race day so I dont think I will be loading up on water on the day for fear of frequent visits to the facilities as you say
On the other marathons I have run I have blown up around mile 18 - 21 due to lack of energy rather rather than lack of water and switching from gels to energy bars seems to have helped that. There is water available every mile from mile 3 on the day and I have been training with it as well so that should be OK.
If push comes to shove, I think I would rather piss myself on the way round than have to stop and lose time going to one of the toilets but I would rather avoid that situation in the first place
Getting rather nervous about the VLM now. Did 22 miles last saturday in 3.5 hours on my own and felt ok at the end of it, even managed to walk around and function mormally in the afternoon. Just worried about my prep in the few days before hand, diet/drink wise. Juat hope the weather is kind to us as well.We have arranged to stay with relatives near Croydon the night before so dinner will be a spaghetti bolognese or similar which is what I have been having on the Saturdays evenings before my long training runs so nothing unusual there.
Am sticking by the golden rule of never changing anything on race day so I dont think I will be loading up on water on the day for fear of frequent visits to the facilities as you say
On the other marathons I have run I have blown up around mile 18 - 21 due to lack of energy rather rather than lack of water and switching from gels to energy bars seems to have helped that. There is water available every mile from mile 3 on the day and I have been training with it as well so that should be OK.
If push comes to shove, I think I would rather piss myself on the way round than have to stop and lose time going to one of the toilets but I would rather avoid that situation in the first place
ExV8 said:
Running every day this week as on hols and nice weather. Planning on doing 17k ish tomorrow which should be fun but finding it hurting more.
Not sure how you get over 21k? I am pretty much worn out on 17-22k. For those that run long how do you condition your mind , especially in training?
21k is what 13 miles or so? I guess it's all relative but for me that's a normal Sunday run distance and I pick routes that take in some of the countryside round where I am that I can't cover on a shorter run. As it's generally a more relaxed run you can enjoy it a bit more as well. Getting out early when it's quiet or with mist on the ground is a good way to start the day.Not sure how you get over 21k? I am pretty much worn out on 17-22k. For those that run long how do you condition your mind , especially in training?
For me, I don't think about the distance as a whole. As I go along I tick off a 10k, half marathon, etc. as mental waypoints and as you get closer to the end it's 10k to go, parkrun to go, 1 mile to go, etc.
Going out with a group also helps as you generally spend the first half of the run chatting with the occasional bits after that as you start to dig in.
eric twinge said:
Getting rather nervous about the VLM now. Did 22 miles last saturday in 3.5 hours on my own and felt ok at the end of it, even managed to walk around and function mormally in the afternoon. Just worried about my prep in the few days before hand, diet/drink wise. Juat hope the weather is kind to us as well.
It looks like it will be dry and a bit cooler than it has been recently which is good. Going out at lunchtime this week when it has been in the 20s has made it a lot tougher so could do with it being on the cool side.KTF said:
It looks like it will be dry and a bit cooler than it has been recently which is good. Going out at lunchtime this week when it has been in the 20s has made it a lot tougher so could do with it being on the cool side.
Yes, I work in the City of London and I went out Tues and Thurs lunchtime and it was very hot, so a bit more difficult than normal. All the 'road closed' signs are up so it is getting very close!
Cheers for the ideas.
Decided to run out to a destination as long as it was at least 10.5k away. Turned out to be 12k so a total run of 24k which is the furthest so far.
Cheated a bit as followed the Kennet & Avon Canal for a good part of the run. First 12 were slow and easy. At 19 I was wishing I had stopped and the next 5k I struggled to keep my heart rate down. The positive part is that the last 5k felt the same - it did not seem to get much worse. I guess if I gradually increase the distance the 'poor' part of the run should come later
Decided to run out to a destination as long as it was at least 10.5k away. Turned out to be 12k so a total run of 24k which is the furthest so far.
Cheated a bit as followed the Kennet & Avon Canal for a good part of the run. First 12 were slow and easy. At 19 I was wishing I had stopped and the next 5k I struggled to keep my heart rate down. The positive part is that the last 5k felt the same - it did not seem to get much worse. I guess if I gradually increase the distance the 'poor' part of the run should come later
My injured ankle is getting better every day (despite/because of ramping up to doing 250km of cycling this week in an attempt to maintain fitness). It is still swelling up, but the bruising has settled down. I'm doing balancing exercises on my sitfit cushion.
I'm hoping that I'll be back to running within 2 weeks......
Has anybody had much rehab success with water running in a pool?
I'm hoping that I'll be back to running within 2 weeks......
Has anybody had much rehab success with water running in a pool?
Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 18th April 13:17
Back from Annecy now. 2.5 great days of mountain running despite some poor weather.
Day 1: https://www.strava.com/activities/287982670 Snowy!
Day 2: https://www.strava.com/activities/287982591 Hilly!
Day 3: https://www.strava.com/activities/287982486 Wet!
Day 1: https://www.strava.com/activities/287982670 Snowy!
Day 2: https://www.strava.com/activities/287982591 Hilly!
Day 3: https://www.strava.com/activities/287982486 Wet!
A good run yesterday and one minute off my PB which was a nice surprise. I found myself totally switching off for parts of the run which has not happened for a while now and only seems to happen when I reach a certain stage of fitness.
One month until the next half, 5 weeks until the 10k and 6 weeks before the marathon. Getting quite excited now.
One month until the next half, 5 weeks until the 10k and 6 weeks before the marathon. Getting quite excited now.
I've just completed another week of C25k and I'm feeling myself getting fitter.
I did notice though that the programme takes a huge jump, from:
2x 90 secs run, 90 secs walk, 3 mins run, 3 walk
to:
2x 3 mins run, 90 secs walk, 5 mins run, 2.5 mins walk
It seems to double the running and halve the recovery in a single step!
I did notice though that the programme takes a huge jump, from:
2x 90 secs run, 90 secs walk, 3 mins run, 3 walk
to:
2x 3 mins run, 90 secs walk, 5 mins run, 2.5 mins walk
It seems to double the running and halve the recovery in a single step!
cookie118 said:
I've just completed another week of C25k and I'm feeling myself getting fitter.
I did notice though that the programme takes a huge jump, from:
2x 90 secs run, 90 secs walk, 3 mins run, 3 walk
to:
2x 3 mins run, 90 secs walk, 5 mins run, 2.5 mins walk
It seems to double the running and halve the recovery in a single step!
Good stuff. I did notice though that the programme takes a huge jump, from:
2x 90 secs run, 90 secs walk, 3 mins run, 3 walk
to:
2x 3 mins run, 90 secs walk, 5 mins run, 2.5 mins walk
It seems to double the running and halve the recovery in a single step!
The programme probably assumes that once your body gets used to running it can cope with 3 minutes of running and it sounds as if you can. Yes, it might be 2x the time, but it's not quite like going from 10k to a half-marathon.
anyone else get out and do the manchester marathon yesterday?
had a good run - tried to take it fairly steady as i'm going to be doing an ultra at the end of May, so now is not the time to be pushing pace of a marathon
the weather was great - overcast and cool. hardly any wind and the route is virtually flat
the crowd support was just amazing - i've never done one of the city marathons before, but they were fantastic. really helped take your mind off the road at times. clapping and cheering and little kids giving it the high fives. such a good atmosphere and they really helped make the event.
will definitely be doing it again
had a good run - tried to take it fairly steady as i'm going to be doing an ultra at the end of May, so now is not the time to be pushing pace of a marathon
the weather was great - overcast and cool. hardly any wind and the route is virtually flat
the crowd support was just amazing - i've never done one of the city marathons before, but they were fantastic. really helped take your mind off the road at times. clapping and cheering and little kids giving it the high fives. such a good atmosphere and they really helped make the event.
will definitely be doing it again
cookie118 said:
I've just completed another week of C25k and I'm feeling myself getting fitter.
I did notice though that the programme takes a huge jump, from:
2x 90 secs run, 90 secs walk, 3 mins run, 3 walk
to:
2x 3 mins run, 90 secs walk, 5 mins run, 2.5 mins walk
It seems to double the running and halve the recovery in a single step!
Don't look ahead to week 5 then I did notice though that the programme takes a huge jump, from:
2x 90 secs run, 90 secs walk, 3 mins run, 3 walk
to:
2x 3 mins run, 90 secs walk, 5 mins run, 2.5 mins walk
It seems to double the running and halve the recovery in a single step!
I'm just getting back into running after a long layoff and I'm using c25k again to get back into it. It does seem like a big jump from wk3 to wk4, but trust yourself and the program and you'll be fine.
Just remember it's about building endurance, not speed, so if you have to run slowly to get through then that's what to do.
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