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MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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The physio put my mind at ease and taped up my foot tendon issue which seems to have helped. He also said that my calf muscles seemed fine.

Trying an offroad run all seemed fine at the time and afterwards.

The following day I had a recurrence of one of my calf problems, a pain deep in the outer side of the upper part of the calf -probably the soleus or some small muscle?

-Rolling and self-massaging it seems to have eased the pain, but spread it over a larger area. I'm hoping it is only a very minor strain.

2 weeks to go until my first 10K in years...

Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 12th June 14:06

Lotus Notes

1,200 posts

191 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Get some ice on it MCB! Good look with the final preparation..

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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RizzoTheRat said:
Looks like it's going to be reasonable for Endure 24, but rain tonight will make for a wet course at the start
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2657544

At least it's a bit cooler, went for a gentle run yesterday afternoon and was knackered by 3km, way too hot in the sun.
I am going up tomorrow morning now as my tent isn't that watertight and could do without testing it in a thunderstorm smile

It does look better than earlier in the week though. I really hope it stays dry tomorrow morning so the course has time to dry out, otherwise it's going to turn into a mess on the first lap like it did last year and the toilets and showers will give me nightmares again wink

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Lotus Notes said:
Get some ice on it MCB! Good look with the final preparation..
I have my compression socks on, but I don't have an ice bucket or freezer at the office.

Well, a week off running wasn't the best prep and this calf thing isn't helping either (having a work event to attend might actually be the thing that causes me to no race, though....). Walking about I'm mostly fine, with only the odd twinge. Edit: Actually, it has now tightened up a bit) I can hop and run a few steps without obvious problems.

I managed to do a world record cycle commute this morning too.

Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 12th June 16:22

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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KTF said:
I am going up tomorrow morning now as my tent isn't that watertight and could do without testing it in a thunderstorm smile

It does look better than earlier in the week though. I really hope it stays dry tomorrow morning so the course has time to dry out, otherwise it's going to turn into a mess on the first lap like it did last year and the toilets and showers will give me nightmares again wink
Pitched the tent this afternoon, the ground was pretty hard driving across the field so I reckon if doesn't rain too hard it should run off, started pissing it down about 3:30 but only lasted an hour or so. Already surprisingly crowded.

Check your T-shirts when you pick them up, they managed to give us the wrong sizes and we had to go back and swap half of them, they're quite small too, tempted to see if I can swap my L for XL

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Friday 12th June 2015
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Apparently the ground isn't so hard now wink

Several of the club members in the red Hedge End tops are taking over the disco which is new for this year by the looks of it.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Lotus Notes said:
Get some ice on it MCB! Good look with the final preparation..
A fair bit of icing and the compression socks (plus a few hard efforts on the ride home) appear to have done the trick.It must have just been stiffness/micro-tearing.

I felt good this morning, so tentatively went for a run early afternoon. I ended up doing a 10k mixed trail run, varying the pace, including some hard (for me) efforts.

I've been icing and wearing compression sleeves in the time since the run.

Fingers crossed the calf will be ok tomorrow and I can do a long, slow run.

It's a shame that I lost a week-10days preparation, although I did do a lot of hill running the previous week, so the reduced running might have been a useful 'rest/recovery'. I need to do another long intervals or tempo run this week, though.

Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 14th June 10:22

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Back from endure 24. Much better weather this year and still a challenging course with a few evil hills. Organisation was as good as ever and the onsite food was reasonably priced and good given the captive audience.

Looks like our team of 8 men came 5th in the category which isn't bad going. Doing 2 laps at night is a great idea if you want to get some decent rest as well.

The winning solo did 124 miles I think beating the course record. They 'ran' each one as well. Incredible.

Have already got 8 people lined up for next year.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Just out of interest-has anyone had experience of running or heavy exercise and giving blood. Having seen the news recently I would like to donate but I've never done so beforehand because of the fact I was running a lot.

I'm beginning to get back up to speed although I'm far away from my peak training and I just want to check one wouldn't affect the other, or what effect it could have.

ocrx8

868 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Finally cracked sub 1:15 with a time of 1:14:21 in Southend half marathon today, London 2016 here I come biggrin

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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ocrx8 said:
Finally cracked sub 1:15 with a time of 1:14:21 in Southend half marathon today, London 2016 here I come biggrin
What bike were you riding?

Well done! That's a quick pace.

It would be interesting to know what the limiting factors in distance running capacity are. I doubt that I could ever have achieved a time like that, even with full-time training at my peak.

Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 14th June 18:46

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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ocrx8 said:
Finally cracked sub 1:15 with a time of 1:14:21 in Southend half marathon today, London 2016 here I come biggrin
Are you doing London anyway or does a quick half time get you into London now like it does New York?

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

163 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Congrats ocrx8! Cracking time and a sign of more to come I hope?

A fast half does indeed get you into the championship start at the London Marathon, along with a fast start separate to the great unwashed masses of the rest of us biggrin The championship criteria for women is more generous at sub-90.

Cookie: a friend of mine who's not a runner, but still trains and works out to a high level. He donates blood during the Christmas season because that's when he's less able to train so it's less disruptive for him. He's mentioned before that he always feels less sharp in the couple of days after donating, and continues to feel like he's training through treacle for around 2 weeks afterwards. I guess essentially, the body is being asked to do the same but with fewer resources than before, and is sort of the opposite of doping with EPO.

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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So it does. I never realised (not that I will do a sub 1:15 half even if my hair was on fire and the water was at the finish): https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/en-gb/ho...

lost in espace

6,161 posts

207 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Just back from Endure24, our A team came second in 6-8 mixed sex, consistent 32-34 minute laps. My B team came 8th out of 19 male 6-8 but we had one slow lady. 4 laps for me, very tiring indeed. Managed a sub 40 for one of those laps. Its my second one, not sure I will do another.

Twas a bit Glastonbury like, especially as I had been to a festival on the site and got duped into getting off my tits on some kind of skunk.

The start was crazy, and the first changeover chaos. My wife ran our last lap and the hooter was sounded as she arrived at the finish line so the wouldn't let our last runner go.




tickious

1,392 posts

174 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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What zero drop trainers do you use?

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Enjoyed Endure 24 but sadly my knee didn't, after a slightly slower than planned 52 minute first lap my ITB/knee issue started to resurface, and after a massage and then walking/hobbling the whole of my third lap in 85 minutes decided a 4th would be a silly idea, it gave the team an extra half hours sleep though. Newbury parkrun on the Saturday morning means I did 18 miles though which is way further than I've been before in a weekend

We were the slow team and managed 28 laps, with our other teams doing 30, 31 and 33 I think, plus a soloist (who's never run a marathon before but fancied a challenge) doing 10 laps.

Can't believe the lead soloist did 26! We only just beat him and there 7 of us!

My Mrs and a mate we giving a lift to were asleep in the car before we even got to Basingstoke biggrin

KTF said:
Looks like our team of 8 men came 5th in the category which isn't bad going. Doing 2 laps at night is a great idea if you want to get some decent rest as well.
How many laps was that? Looks like results aren't up on the website yet and I forgot to look at the results before we left

lost in espace said:
Twas a bit Glastonbury like,
Felt sorry for the fools who'd camped too close to the loos, we were holding our breath to walk past this morning.

ocrx8

868 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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MC Bodge said:
What bike were you riding?

Well done! That's a quick pace.

It would be interesting to know what the limiting factors in distance running capacity are. I doubt that I could ever have achieved a time like that, even with full-time training at my peak.

Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 14th June 18:46
I figured it was an easier route in than the ballot!

Determination is a big factor - I've wanted this for a while! Also being able to get the body used to working at a high output and being able to hold it. I'm a firm believer in running races at a consistent pace.

My training has been one long run on a Sunday (10-12 miles) with a speed session on a Wednesday. I swim each lunchtime and do some cardio in the gym in the evenings but I don't put a huge amount of mileage per week. Historically, whenever I've upped the mileage I've got injured - will have to find something that works for London.

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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RizzoTheRat said:
Enjoyed Endure 24 but sadly my knee didn't, after a slightly slower than planned 52 minute first lap my ITB/knee issue started to resurface, and after a massage and then walking/hobbling the whole of my third lap in 85 minutes decided a 4th would be a silly idea, it gave the team an extra half hours sleep though. Newbury parkrun on the Saturday morning means I did 18 miles though which is way further than I've been before in a weekend

We were the slow team and managed 28 laps, with our other teams doing 30, 31 and 33 I think, plus a soloist (who's never run a marathon before but fancied a challenge) doing 10 laps.

Can't believe the lead soloist did 26! We only just beat him and there 7 of us!

My Mrs and a mate we giving a lift to were asleep in the car before we even got to Basingstoke biggrin

KTF said:
Looks like our team of 8 men came 5th in the category which isn't bad going. Doing 2 laps at night is a great idea if you want to get some decent rest as well.
How many laps was that? Looks like results aren't up on the website yet and I forgot to look at the results before we left

lost in espace said:
Twas a bit Glastonbury like,
Felt sorry for the fools who'd camped too close to the loos, we were holding our breath to walk past this morning.
Provisional results are here: http://www.frsystems.co.uk/results/2015-endura-24-...

38 laps total. We were the 'hedge busters' team. I was doing 7:30 mile avg daytime and 8:30ish night time which is under 40/above 40 a lap and I was one of the slower ones in the team. We were the fastest/most laps team from our club (forget how many there were) so held on to that record from last year.

We did a single, single, double, single, put the faster ones out at the end approach. They way it worked out meant I did 20M on Saturday. Slept from 00:00 until half 6ish then out again about 8 as the double lap meant you skipped a turn.

We went up on Saturday morning so didn't have time to sneak a parkrun in. Pleased I didn't now as it was a tough course. The hill just after mile 3 got the juices flowing smile

My wife was a marshal on Saturday afternoon at the 'slope or stairs' part with the haribo if you noticed. 5 hours got her free food for the weekend, a free pair of trainers (any you like) and free entry to any of their events. Not a bad deal smile

The solo guys are another level. Their mental toughness is amazing. Even more so when you think that last year they trudged through ankle deep mud for the whole course due to the weather and ended up with trench foot type symptoms at the end.

We were camped at the furthest away point near gate B to avoid the noise and get some sleep. Agree that downwind of the toilets was not prime real estate smile

Edited by KTF on Sunday 14th June 21:45

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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The double laps overnight makes a lot of sense. One of our teams did a double on the first man which meant they avoided the chaos at the first exchange, then he did another double overnight but I think everyone else did single laps. All our team wanted to do a run in the dark though, it was quite nice out when I went at 3am.
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