Mourinho Gone (To Buy Class 1 Eggs)
Discussion
Interesting thread. Everton supporter here,
I personally think JM is a top coach. Not as good as he or Chelsea fans think, but top notch none the less. Winning the Champions League with Porto is by far his best and most important achievement. However 66 games with defeat at home is something special too
With the players Chelsea have, they need a manager like JM to keep their Ego's in check and to command respect. I don't think there are many managers who could walk into the Chelsea Dressing room and get the respect of the players. Grant is surely a stop gap and Chelsea trying to save face by saying we already have a replacement.
Chelsea need a young, vibrant, confident manager who has been there and done it as a player and knows what it takes to win at the highest level.
Jurgen Klinsman anyone - think he's the perfect fit for Chelsea
I personally think JM is a top coach. Not as good as he or Chelsea fans think, but top notch none the less. Winning the Champions League with Porto is by far his best and most important achievement. However 66 games with defeat at home is something special too
With the players Chelsea have, they need a manager like JM to keep their Ego's in check and to command respect. I don't think there are many managers who could walk into the Chelsea Dressing room and get the respect of the players. Grant is surely a stop gap and Chelsea trying to save face by saying we already have a replacement.
Chelsea need a young, vibrant, confident manager who has been there and done it as a player and knows what it takes to win at the highest level.
Jurgen Klinsman anyone - think he's the perfect fit for Chelsea
Edited by stimmers on Saturday 29th September 23:23
JoolzB said:
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Liverpool didn't deserve the CL no, I have Liverpool fan friends who admit it too.
If you win you deserve to win and if you lose you deserve to lose - surely thats the way sport is ?????Liverpool didn't deserve the CL no, I have Liverpool fan friends who admit it too.
Liverpool totally deserved their CL win and i'd love to know why you think they didn't.
JoolzB said:
Liverpool didn't deserve the CL no, I have Liverpool fan friends who admit it too. Entertaining match tho 
We defeated all the major important on form European sides on the way to the final, were soundly outplayed in the first half, then soundly outplayed the opposition in the second half and won on penalties.The turnround was amazing, the game was very entertaining but we certainly deserved the victory.
As for Lampard, not watched him play for Chelsea that much but if its anything like his woefull England performances how he scores so much is simple. Greed. He takes 20-30 shots and one may go in, IMO not what a midfielder should be about, yes take some shots/chances, but he takes a chance every (slight) opertunity to the detriment of the team as a whole.
stimmers said:
If you win you deserve to win and if you lose you deserve to lose - surely thats the way sport is ?????
No I don't think so. Quite often a team wins a competition when other teams have played better, bad luck comes into aswell as good luck. France getting to the World Cup final and Arsenal winning the FA cup against Man U for instance. A team can completely dominate a game and not get anything from it.stimmers said:
Liverpool totally deserved their CL win and i'd love to know why you think they didn't.
Like above, I don't think they'd played aswell as other teams in the lead up to the final, other teams had put in performances that deserved better. They were let back into the game by AC I thought who dominated the first half and then seemed to switch off, I guess you could say they(AC) deserved to lose because of that.stimmers said:
With the players Chelsea have, they need a manager like JM to keep their Ego's in check and to command respect.
I think you're right, the manager can only contribute so much and too much emphasis is put on their contribution to wins and losses at times. Id rcommend they look at the Chairman of PolarisWorld as he's foreign, seems to have enthusiasm and probly rates himself a bit too.trackdemon said:
JM's tactical nous is undeniable though; he turned several games around through clever reshaping of a game.... I remember a particularly enjoyable one I was at where we went down to 10men at home against West Ham, then at 0-0. A couple of subsitutions & some clever repositioning of players had us win the game 4-1 - genuis.
I'm not so sure. Undoubtedly he was/is an excellent manager, but I wouldn't agree that he was a tactical genius.In his first couple of seasons he had all the money in the world to spend on the players he wanted. He played his style of football which I think would be fair to call (at best) substance over style, and it was successful for him. But all too often he relied on a long ball game as a Plan B, pushing a centre back (usually Huth) up into a strikers roll in the hope of fighting the ball into the box.
If this was used once or twice as a final throw of the dice then fair enough, but it wasn't, it was used a lot more often and often to little effect once opposing managers knew what was coming. The long ball game isn't tactical genius, it's football at its most crude, and usually the sign of a team devoid of other options.
The game vs Liverpool last season was another example of really shifty tactics. Maureen thought it genius to not use any wingers, despite having Robben, SWP and Cole on the bench, and had Geremi as right back against Kewell. For 45 minutes Chel$ki were the biggest shambles I've ever seen a championship winning side.
Again, a good manager, but I personally would put a lot of his 'good fortune' down to the embarrassment of riches he had at his disposal.
Edited by Andy M on Wednesday 3rd October 16:53
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