Mourinho Gone (To Buy Class 1 Eggs)

Mourinho Gone (To Buy Class 1 Eggs)

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sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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lazyitus said:
So Avram Grant gets the job.


That's quick, it suggests to me that Jose was fired.
yes writing was on the wall for a long while

the sumnmer 'will he go, will he stay' stories show that they were manouvering against him

soapbox

753 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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sleep envy said:
Jimboka said:
Nothing you can say will change my opinion
that's great because every village needs it's idiot
Interesting....would JM, having taken over the squad from the Italian chap and not spent anything, been as successful I wonder?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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sleep envy said:
Jimboka said:
Nothing you can say will change my opinion
that's great because every village needs it's idiot
You are very good at picking bits of a quote out of context arn't you!. But then again, I suppose in your mind you are always right & nobody else can have an opinion. All the best !

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 20th September 11:54

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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soapbox said:
sleep envy said:
Jimboka said:
Nothing you can say will change my opinion
that's great because every village needs it's idiot
Interesting....would JM, having taken over the squad from the Italian chap and not spent anything, been as successful I wonder?
good point but it's pure speculation as to how well he'd have done

essentially the back bone of the team was there when Jose took over but seeing as Ranieri did lead the team to a CL semi and 2nd in the league he wasn't doing too badly with minimal funds

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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Jimboka said:
sleep envy said:
Jimboka said:
Nothing you can say will change my opinion
that's great because every village needs it's idiot
You are very good at picking bits of a quote out of context arn't you!. But then again, I suppose in your mind you are always right & nobody else can have an opinion. All the best !
how is it out of context? the second sentence was simply you repeating your diatribe

everyone's entitled to their opinion, it's just that when it's a load of rubbish which gets bandied about (and has been for 4 years) it doesn't add any value

tara! wavey


soapbox

753 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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sleep envy said:
soapbox said:
sleep envy said:
Jimboka said:
Nothing you can say will change my opinion
that's great because every village needs it's idiot
Interesting....would JM, having taken over the squad from the Italian chap and not spent anything, been as successful I wonder?
good point but it's pure speculation as to how well he'd have done

essentially the back bone of the team was there when Jose took over but seeing as Ranieri did lead the team to a CL semi and 2nd in the league he wasn't doing too badly with minimal funds
Which I guess begs the question if Ranieri was give the same loot would Chelsea got to the same place (winning the league) without ever employing JM. Who knows.

He was certainly entertaining so will be missed in that regard. Shame the team were not so entertaining but I guess if it aint broke....

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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I don't think he had the strength of character to have been able to deal with a disgruntled squad of players who were placed in rotation - JM is more steely in that respect

Shame this didn't happen 3 months ago - I'd be quite happy to see Sven at the bridge

soapbox

753 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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sleep envy said:
I don't think he had the strength of character to have been able to deal with a disgruntled squad of players who were placed in rotation - JM is more steely in that respect

Shame this didn't happen 3 months ago - I'd be quite happy to see Sven at the bridge
Has this Grant guy done anything other than manage a couple of Israeli teams? Seems an odd choice.


sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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according to Wiki

Teams managed
1972-1986 Hapoel Petah Tikva (Youth)
1986-1991 Hapoel Petah Tikva
1991-1995 Maccabi Tel Aviv
1995-1996 Hapoel Haifa
1996-2000 Maccabi Tel Aviv
2000-2002 Maccabi Haifa
2002-2006 Israel
2007- Chelsea

doesn't seem like much of a CV

jewish mafia springs to mind...

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

219 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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sleep envy said:
futhermore, how much have Liverpool, Arsenal and the Manchesters spent on players? Silly me, they get all their's on a free and we spent the most in the closed season didn't we... rolleyes change the record, it's 3 seasons old
Well said.

Personally I will miss JM, he was an excellent manager and an amusing bloke to boot. Anyone that thinks his success is only down to the cash he had available is jumping onto an ill-informed bandwagon, and a good look at his career so far will show he usually manages to get the best out of people. He's also one of the only managers I've ever seen that can turn a poor game completely on it's head by altering his tactics.

As for the future of Chelsea, I'm happy to take bets from all those who think they're heading down the slippery slope. They're NOT heading towards relegation and they're not going to lose all their best players in the new year. Generally-speaking, Abramovich has a fine relationship with his players, and I don't see that changing all of a sudden.

The future of Manchester United; now that's an interesting one. £100million a year in loan repayments is enough to cripple anybody, especially when the team is being operated as a company and is expected to be a financial success.

soapbox

753 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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ehyouwhat said:
The future of Manchester United; now that's an interesting one. £100million a year in loan repayments is enough to cripple anybody, especially when the team is being operated as a company and is expected to be a financial success.
Well thats the point isn't it. They are run as a company and £100m to service my debt on their turnover would certainly keep me awake if I were FD.

Chelsea are not run as a company but as a banana republic so for as long as Roman in interested who gives a toss about the relationship between spending and revenue (having said that, Kenyons comments about being financially independant of Roman in 5 years are laughable. He should be £250kpa saving for Chelsea straight away. Total waste of space)

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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you're not Utd are you by any chance?

that sounded a tad bitter hehe

soapbox

753 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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sleep envy said:
you're not Utd are you by any chance?

that sounded a tad bitter hehe
Yes, but not that Utd. Carlisle so can be totally objective!!!

I'm not being critical of Chelseas financial situation, it is what it is. Solvent as a trading entity they aint and saying otherwise is just plain silly. If I was a Man U fan I'd be petrified at having spent what they did, on top of £100m of debt and owners who don't run the club like a plaything. That has all the hallmarks of going belly up.

If Roman were to go but cancelled all the debt (most likely) then there would be some belt tightening but not the implosion that many are hoping for.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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who knows what goes through his mind - sacking the head coach before the biggest game of the season so far and one game into the CL isn't what I'd call good practice

agree with your comments WRT Utd but weren't the Glaziers offered £150m for the club plus the debt value?

there must still be some value in the club if there's serious offers being made

soapbox

753 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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sleep envy said:
who knows what goes through his mind - sacking the head coach before the biggest game of the season so far and one game into the CL isn't what I'd call good practice

agree with your comments WRT Utd but weren't the Glaziers offered £150m for the club plus the debt value?

there must still be some value in the club if there's serious offers being made
Sure - its the most valuable brand in the industry and they would never fold. But you can almost see a situation where Arsenal (best debt structure in the league, if not the world), Liverpool, Chelsea and others have more purchasing power than Utd because of the strain on debt.

Anyway, I think 1-0 Chelsea on Sunday.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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Arsenal might find themselves in a different situation if Red and White gobble up enough share to force a buy out

that result would be nice smile

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

219 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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soapbox said:
Anyway, I think 1-0 Chelsea on Sunday.
As much as I would love that, I think the game is going to be overhyped given the current status of management in Chelsea, added to the natural and dominating rivalry that already exists between these two clubs (still the two 'forces' of English football and IMHO a cert for 1st and 2nd places in the league - in whichever order.)

It all points towards a nil-nil draw methinks.

Edited as I'm a bit of a thicko.

Edited by ehyouwhat on Thursday 20th September 13:25

im

34,302 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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ehyouwhat said:
It all points towards a nin-nil draw methinks.
yikes a NINE-NIL draw

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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sleep envy said:
doesn't seem like much of a CV

jewish mafia springs to mind...
But i bet he is one hell of a yes man hehe

Im sure Bramovitch is arrogant enough to belive he could do a better job than The Special one , this new guy could be a beard so to speak so The Bramov can do it him self wink

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

219 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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im said:
ehyouwhat said:
It all points towards a nin-nil draw methinks.
yikes a NINE-NIL draw
D'oh!