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Blackpuddin
4,806 posts
74 months
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ewenm said: But people who know Murray personally says he's a nice chap, some of them on this thread. Just because that doesn't come over in the TV interviews doesn't mean it isn't true. I've heard the same thing - which makes me wonder even more why he feels it necessary to present such a different face to the public. He must be making a positive effort to deny us his own personality, which (if it's so great) is an odd thing for him to do. I really enjoy seeing him win, but his post-match interviews instantly kill any sense of euphoria. I begrudge that. It's almost as if he doesn't want anyone to share in the moment.
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uk66fastback
9,546 posts
140 months
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I thought after watching Fed's demolition of Djokovic cos that's what it was, there would be no way Murray could beat him but after having seen some of the shots Murray is capable of in his battle with Tsonga I think he has an excellent chance but has to get away to a good start. He actually has beaten Fed more times than he has lost to him - but not sure about the head to heads on grass ... Sure, AM will be nervous, but he's old enough now to know what he has to do and I'll be just as pleased for Lendl if Murray wins it as Lendl never won Wimbledon of course - I hated the big Czech f  ker back in the 80s but he's a lot more laid back now. For sure Murray can win, but he has to take his chances when they arise, the odd break point, hot selection etc - all have to be good. Federer was sublime today in his match though ...
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elster
16,648 posts
79 months
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Blackpuddin said: So they have no obligations as role models then? He is a bloody good role model. Since when has public speaking been the example to set to be a top sportsman?
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MartinQ
561 posts
50 months
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Blackpuddin said: I've heard the same thing - which makes me wonder even more why he feels it necessary to present such a different face to the public. He must be making a positive effort to deny us his own personality, which (if it's so great) is an odd thing for him to do.
I really enjoy seeing him win, but his post-match interviews instantly kill any sense of euphoria. I begrudge that. It's almost as if he doesn't want anyone to share in the moment. Maybe he just dislikes the cameras and questions. I've been told I'm quite an enjoyable person to be around and try to crack the odd joke, but put me at the front of a room to do a presentation and I'm sure I sound like Murray.
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ewenm
24,467 posts
114 months
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I don't have an issue with Murray's interviews. Yes, his voice is dull and he tends not to show emotion, but what he says is no different to anyone else. I can't read anything into his personality (as opposed to his voice/delivery) from the interviews. He doesn't seem grumpy or rude or impolite, just isn't blessed with the most interesting voice.
I don't really rate post-match interviews in any sport anyway - the questions are always the same, the answers avoid any controversy. I don't expect any great insights from them.
Edit: I was interviewed by ITV on the spot after the Bath Half Marathon a few years ago. I'm pretty sure I sounded like a banal runner, something along the lines of: "How does it feel to be the first local runner home?" "I'm pleased with the position but would have liked a faster time. I'm happy to have finished with no recurrence of a recent injury." Most of my mates said it didn't really sound like me, but if you're just trying to be polite to a journalist while you really want to get away for a massage/recovery/meal/(beer!), then you tend to be rather guarded.
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FlyInMySoup
80 posts
53 months
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Blackpuddin said: You're right on many of these points – which makes it all the more puzzling that he can't go the extra mile and make himself more likeable. I would not be happy to have my son model himself on Murray. Not from a personality point of view anyway. I can only assume he is an introvert, it's the way he's wired, I doubt he can help it and has maybe decided to be honest to himself rather than present a false face to the world, that's very mature for a 25 year old. I too would like my children to have only the good personality traits but I'm a realist, Murray is perhaps not the greatest ever role model, but he is far from being a bad one. Better to have Murray as a role model than Barry Ferguson or John Terry for example.
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wormburner
6,397 posts
122 months
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johnfm said: Blackpuddin said: Totally disagree with this. Professional sport is one of the biggest things kids can aspire to. Ordinary kids. How difficult would it really be for the pros to put in a bit of effort? Look at Federer. Not only is he a brilliant role model who manages to do amazing work for charity while following the same tour as Murray, he does infinitely better interviews in his non-native tongue than Murray apparently ever will. It can be done. Murray simply chooses not to. For that I can never like him. I can admire his skills, sure. But I admire Federer's more. And I admire his human qualities a thousand percent more. I expect Murray is gutted and Federer is delighted with your approval. Well 250,000,000 people agree, so it will certainly be reflected in the size of their cheques from the sponors. It does make a big difference.
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ewenm
24,467 posts
114 months
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MiniMan64
7,548 posts
59 months
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MartinQ said: Maybe he just dislikes the cameras and questions.
I've been told I'm quite an enjoyable person to be around and try to crack the odd joke, but put me at the front of a room to do a presentation and I'm sure I sound like Murray. Last time I was at Wimbledon we were in the players lounge watching his brother Jamie play and found ourselves talking to his grandparents for a few hours and they agreed with the above, apparently he has a very dry sarcastic sense of humour and intensely dislikes the media spotlight. Usually when he's interviewed it's not that he's putting it on, he's just extremely uncomfortable in those situations. More so with some of the negative press he's had in the past. The next day we were up there again and he was a few tables over with what I guess was his entourage and he seemed as happy, smiley and chilled as the next fella.
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johnfm
9,024 posts
119 months
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Blackpuddin said: johnfm said: I expect Murray is gutted and Federer is delighted with your approval.  You're a hard man John, sorry I can't persuade you on this one. Neither of them need or care about my approbation or disdain, you're right there. But I wonder which of the two men will look back with more satisfaction at their careers, and at old videos of themselves being interviewed, forty years from now. Do you think an ageing tennis player will watch videos of himself: Playing on Wimbledon centre court; or Being interviewed afterwards? I'm sorry I can't pursuance you that for a sportsman, or any sports fan, the playing, the losing or winning of the sport is number 1. Prize money, technology, changing it he rules to improve the spectator experience - all secondary.
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Semi hemi
1,677 posts
67 months
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Anyway, If he does win tomorrow, You're not going to mind if we take the Net & Grass back to Scotland to keep the Wembley Goal Posts & Turf company?
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garyhun
13,996 posts
97 months
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im said: garyhun said: Those sad f kers complaining about Murray's personality are probably the same people taking a sharp object to your car. Jealous and without any desire to put the effort into making a future for themselves. Really?  Mmmm- I had had rather too many wines at that stage. On reflection, probably not
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Jasey@
886 posts
47 months
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If Murray doesn't bottle it he has the game to give Federer a run for his money. Could be a long haul tomorrow. Good luck Andy
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ViperPict
8,447 posts
106 months
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Am genuinely nervous! f k knows what Andy must feel like...
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ViperPict
8,447 posts
106 months
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Not wanting to turn this into a nationalist thread but:  Come on, us Scots rarely get anything Scottish to support in world class sporting events. And, for the record, I did support Tim whenever he played.  A pretty tall order today but, come on Andy, get it done! For Scotland AND Britain.
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garyhun
13,996 posts
97 months
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ViperPict said: Am genuinely nervous! f k knows what Andy must feel like... The most excited and nervous he's ever been. Can you just imagine the feeling of being a few hours away from possibly the most important moments of your life to date, with the hopes of a nation behind you? Amazing I should imagine.
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Apache
38,248 posts
153 months
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MiniMan64 said: MartinQ said: Maybe he just dislikes the cameras and questions.
I've been told I'm quite an enjoyable person to be around and try to crack the odd joke, but put me at the front of a room to do a presentation and I'm sure I sound like Murray. Last time I was at Wimbledon we were in the players lounge watching his brother Jamie play and found ourselves talking to his grandparents for a few hours and they agreed with the above, apparently he has a very dry sarcastic sense of humour and intensely dislikes the media spotlight. Usually when he's interviewed it's not that he's putting it on, he's just extremely uncomfortable in those situations. More so with some of the negative press he's had in the past. The next day we were up there again and he was a few tables over with what I guess was his entourage and he seemed as happy, smiley and chilled as the next fella. enough of that! haters gotta hate
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MiniMan64
7,548 posts
59 months
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Apache said: MiniMan64 said: MartinQ said: Maybe he just dislikes the cameras and questions.
I've been told I'm quite an enjoyable person to be around and try to crack the odd joke, but put me at the front of a room to do a presentation and I'm sure I sound like Murray. Last time I was at Wimbledon we were in the players lounge watching his brother Jamie play and found ourselves talking to his grandparents for a few hours and they agreed with the above, apparently he has a very dry sarcastic sense of humour and intensely dislikes the media spotlight. Usually when he's interviewed it's not that he's putting it on, he's just extremely uncomfortable in those situations. More so with some of the negative press he's had in the past. The next day we were up there again and he was a few tables over with what I guess was his entourage and he seemed as happy, smiley and chilled as the next fella. enough of that! haters gotta hate There was yet another story kicking around online this morning where they'd interviewed him yesterday and the last question was "And how was your private dinner with Kim (his missus) last night?" and he was getting jip because he answered "None of your business!"Why the hell should he answer anythiing else?
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im
Original Poster
27,993 posts
86 months
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C'mon Andy! ...yer whinging scottish git 
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Sheets Tabuer
12,144 posts
84 months
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I wish him all the best.
C'mon Tim Andy!
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