Murray's Clearly Not Turning Into Henman mark II
Discussion
chippy17 said:
As has been said on a Sports post, Murray has done a very good job of manipulating the rankings and frankly does not deserve his No2 spot in terms of talent, yet, much like Safina in the women's game, she is world No1 and has yet to win a slam
He is a good player but whether he will be a great player still remains to be seen, he will retain his no2 spot after the US I think, but we all know who it really belongs to. he is top 10 for sure but there are a fair few other players who I personally rate higher than Murray. And now that people have figured out how to beat his 'anti-tennis' game he is gonig to lose a lot more.
As for comparing him to Henman that remains to be seen, but give Tim a break he was a very good player for a very long time just could not take that one (huge) step to becoming a slam winner and frankly Murray has yet to do that either, he has gone one better than Henman but he still lost!
An amusing comment from someone who clearly hasn't got a clue.He is a good player but whether he will be a great player still remains to be seen, he will retain his no2 spot after the US I think, but we all know who it really belongs to. he is top 10 for sure but there are a fair few other players who I personally rate higher than Murray. And now that people have figured out how to beat his 'anti-tennis' game he is gonig to lose a lot more.
As for comparing him to Henman that remains to be seen, but give Tim a break he was a very good player for a very long time just could not take that one (huge) step to becoming a slam winner and frankly Murray has yet to do that either, he has gone one better than Henman but he still lost!
Edited by chippy17 on Friday 11th September 14:09
May I present to you evidence Murray has clearly done a lot better than 'Tiger' Tim:
Number 1 ranking
3 times GS champion (x2 the Holy Grail that is Wimbledon)
11 GS finals (on all 4 surfaces)
14 Masters 1000 (only missing is Indian Wells and Monte Carlo)
2 times Olympic Gold champion
1 Davis Cup
43 career titles to date
His place in the Hall of Fame is assured for someone who plays 'anti tennis'.
johnxjsc1985 said:
I am not huge Tennis fan or even a fan of Andy Murray however you can only give great credit to the lad who has had so many knocks along the way only to get up and work harder. He is number one in the world and its a well earned position.
Seems to be a fairly common problem that the best players have a bit of a problem with doping. Also rather unusual for British sporting cheats to get caught.amare32 said:
chippy17 said:
As has been said on a Sports post, Murray has done a very good job of manipulating the rankings and frankly does not deserve his No2 spot in terms of talent, yet, much like Safina in the women's game, she is world No1 and has yet to win a slam
He is a good player but whether he will be a great player still remains to be seen, he will retain his no2 spot after the US I think, but we all know who it really belongs to. he is top 10 for sure but there are a fair few other players who I personally rate higher than Murray. And now that people have figured out how to beat his 'anti-tennis' game he is gonig to lose a lot more.
As for comparing him to Henman that remains to be seen, but give Tim a break he was a very good player for a very long time just could not take that one (huge) step to becoming a slam winner and frankly Murray has yet to do that either, he has gone one better than Henman but he still lost!
An amusing comment from someone who clearly hasn't got a clue.He is a good player but whether he will be a great player still remains to be seen, he will retain his no2 spot after the US I think, but we all know who it really belongs to. he is top 10 for sure but there are a fair few other players who I personally rate higher than Murray. And now that people have figured out how to beat his 'anti-tennis' game he is gonig to lose a lot more.
As for comparing him to Henman that remains to be seen, but give Tim a break he was a very good player for a very long time just could not take that one (huge) step to becoming a slam winner and frankly Murray has yet to do that either, he has gone one better than Henman but he still lost!
Edited by chippy17 on Friday 11th September 14:09
May I present to you evidence Murray has clearly done a lot better than 'Tiger' Tim:
Number 1 ranking
3 times GS champion (x2 the Holy Grail that is Wimbledon)
11 GS finals (on all 4 surfaces)
14 Masters 1000 (only missing is Indian Wells and Monte Carlo)
2 times Olympic Gold champion
1 Davis Cup
43 career titles to date
His place in the Hall of Fame is assured for someone who plays 'anti tennis'.
JNW1 said:
amare32 said:
chippy17 said:
As has been said on a Sports post, Murray has done a very good job of manipulating the rankings and frankly does not deserve his No2 spot in terms of talent, yet, much like Safina in the women's game, she is world No1 and has yet to win a slam
He is a good player but whether he will be a great player still remains to be seen, he will retain his no2 spot after the US I think, but we all know who it really belongs to. he is top 10 for sure but there are a fair few other players who I personally rate higher than Murray. And now that people have figured out how to beat his 'anti-tennis' game he is gonig to lose a lot more.
As for comparing him to Henman that remains to be seen, but give Tim a break he was a very good player for a very long time just could not take that one (huge) step to becoming a slam winner and frankly Murray has yet to do that either, he has gone one better than Henman but he still lost!
An amusing comment from someone who clearly hasn't got a clue.He is a good player but whether he will be a great player still remains to be seen, he will retain his no2 spot after the US I think, but we all know who it really belongs to. he is top 10 for sure but there are a fair few other players who I personally rate higher than Murray. And now that people have figured out how to beat his 'anti-tennis' game he is gonig to lose a lot more.
As for comparing him to Henman that remains to be seen, but give Tim a break he was a very good player for a very long time just could not take that one (huge) step to becoming a slam winner and frankly Murray has yet to do that either, he has gone one better than Henman but he still lost!
Edited by chippy17 on Friday 11th September 14:09
May I present to you evidence Murray has clearly done a lot better than 'Tiger' Tim:
Number 1 ranking
3 times GS champion (x2 the Holy Grail that is Wimbledon)
11 GS finals (on all 4 surfaces)
14 Masters 1000 (only missing is Indian Wells and Monte Carlo)
2 times Olympic Gold champion
1 Davis Cup
43 career titles to date
His place in the Hall of Fame is assured for someone who plays 'anti tennis'.
- Nadal was injured
- Federer was injured
- Nadal was put out
- Djokovic was put out
- Federer was put out
- Surface was slowed down
- It was windy
- It was sunny
- cake walk draw
- Federer and Nadal have slowed down
People conveniently forget that the other 3 greats have benefitted from joke draws, injured opponents giving walkovers and favoured scheduling when Murray consistently is made to play during the heat of the day e.g. in Australia and New York or very late at nights whilst the other top 3 don't. Let's not forget Djokovic getting a virtual cake walk to this year's US Open final.
Oh and none of the other 3 players has had to go through major back surgery like Murray did. Only Federer is finding out now having surgery so he has been quite fortunate.
amare32 said:
JNW1 said:
amare32 said:
chippy17 said:
As has been said on a Sports post, Murray has done a very good job of manipulating the rankings and frankly does not deserve his No2 spot in terms of talent, yet, much like Safina in the women's game, she is world No1 and has yet to win a slam
He is a good player but whether he will be a great player still remains to be seen, he will retain his no2 spot after the US I think, but we all know who it really belongs to. he is top 10 for sure but there are a fair few other players who I personally rate higher than Murray. And now that people have figured out how to beat his 'anti-tennis' game he is gonig to lose a lot more.
As for comparing him to Henman that remains to be seen, but give Tim a break he was a very good player for a very long time just could not take that one (huge) step to becoming a slam winner and frankly Murray has yet to do that either, he has gone one better than Henman but he still lost!
An amusing comment from someone who clearly hasn't got a clue.He is a good player but whether he will be a great player still remains to be seen, he will retain his no2 spot after the US I think, but we all know who it really belongs to. he is top 10 for sure but there are a fair few other players who I personally rate higher than Murray. And now that people have figured out how to beat his 'anti-tennis' game he is gonig to lose a lot more.
As for comparing him to Henman that remains to be seen, but give Tim a break he was a very good player for a very long time just could not take that one (huge) step to becoming a slam winner and frankly Murray has yet to do that either, he has gone one better than Henman but he still lost!
Edited by chippy17 on Friday 11th September 14:09
May I present to you evidence Murray has clearly done a lot better than 'Tiger' Tim:
Number 1 ranking
3 times GS champion (x2 the Holy Grail that is Wimbledon)
11 GS finals (on all 4 surfaces)
14 Masters 1000 (only missing is Indian Wells and Monte Carlo)
2 times Olympic Gold champion
1 Davis Cup
43 career titles to date
His place in the Hall of Fame is assured for someone who plays 'anti tennis'.
- Nadal was injured
- Federer was injured
- Nadal was put out
- Djokovic was put out
- Federer was put out
- Surface was slowed down
- It was windy
- It was sunny
- cake walk draw
- Federer and Nadal have slowed down
People conveniently forget that the other 3 greats have benefitted from joke draws, injured opponents giving walkovers and favoured scheduling when Murray consistently is made to play during the heat of the day e.g. in Australia and New York or very late at nights whilst the other top 3 don't. Let's not forget Djokovic getting a virtual cake walk to this year's US Open final.
Oh and none of the other 3 players has had to go through major back surgery like Murray did. Only Federer is finding out now having surgery so he has been quite fortunate.
So I certainly don't have "nothing but hatred" for the guy - I've huge respect for what he's achieved and am delighted to see him do it. Chippy17 will no doubt speak for himself but I'm not sure who all these Murray haters are that you seem to be seeing? Almost all the recent comments I've read have been complimentary about the bloke and rightly so; however, that doesn't alter the fact that going back 7 years there were legitimate areas to criticise, something I suspect Murray himself would be the first to admit!
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