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Very close fight for me. Sure floyd was more accurate and classy but maidanas volume won him 5 or 6 rounds.the compubox punch stats bear this out as well,Having floyd ever so slightly landing more albeit with (obviously) a higher percentage of success.
It's got to be said the pacquiao of the Bradley fight the other week would do well against the floyd of last night.
One guy you won't see floyd signing up for any time soon is shawn porter. The porter that wrecked mallignagi could well do the same to floyd seeing how much success an incredibly crude maidana had
It's got to be said the pacquiao of the Bradley fight the other week would do well against the floyd of last night.
One guy you won't see floyd signing up for any time soon is shawn porter. The porter that wrecked mallignagi could well do the same to floyd seeing how much success an incredibly crude maidana had
Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 4th May 16:10
tuscaneer said:
Very close fight for me. Sure floyd was more accurate and classy but maidanas volume won him 5 or 6 rounds.the compubox punch stats bear this out as well,Having floyd ever so slightly landing more albeit with (obviously) a higher percentage of success.
It's got to be said the pacquiao of the Bradley fight the other week would do well against the floyd of last night.
One guy you won't see floyd signing up for any time soon is shawn porter. The porter that wrecked mallignagi could well do the same to floyd seeing how much success an incredibly crude maidana had
I would just like to say that I totally agree with the above It's got to be said the pacquiao of the Bradley fight the other week would do well against the floyd of last night.
One guy you won't see floyd signing up for any time soon is shawn porter. The porter that wrecked mallignagi could well do the same to floyd seeing how much success an incredibly crude maidana had
Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 4th May 16:10
tuscaneer said:
lord trumpton said:
I would just like to say that I totally agree with the above
We need to start a Facebook campaign to make him fight pacquiao or porter!!!!! God I couldn't take it if he beat rocky marcianos record of 49-0 before retirement! ! Imagine the ego explosion. .....I'd love Pacquiao to fight him, I really would. I personally think Mayweather should take a step out of the 'money' bubble and face the Pacman.
As Kenny Rogers once sang '...sometimes you gotta fight to be a man.'
tuscaneer said:
We need to start a Facebook campaign to make him fight pacquiao or porter!!!!! God I couldn't take it if he beat rocky marcianos record of 49-0 before retirement! ! Imagine the ego explosion. .....
Even worse, could you imagine Beiber's sycophantic f
king histrionics?! Aaaaagggghhhhh!!!Amirhussain said:
I think Mayweather should give Khan a chance, Maidana lost to Khan before, and plus Khan did win the twitter poll....
Now he has proven himself at the weight, the argument that Khan is not deserving of the shot is certainly significantly weaker. However, it looks like there's a problem with dates. Mayweather typically fights in September and May. Understandably, Khan doesn't want to fight in September as Ramadan would clash with his training camp (and Khan has already found to his cost - specifically, the fight with Prescott - how much observing Ramadan can impact his ability to perform), while Mayweather usually fights Latinos in May to coincide with the Cinco de Mayo celebrations e.g. De La Hoya, Cotto, Guerrero and now Maidana. I think Khan may need to be bringing something else to the table (i.e. a belt) to get Mayweather to give him the May slot...although that would mean going after either Pacman or the winner of Porter and Brook (assuming this fight finally gets delivered); neither of which would be a formality!Amirhussain said:
I think Mayweather should give Khan a chance, Maidana lost to Khan before, and plus Khan did win the twitter poll....
Khan won only on his own twitter poll, not the official polls. Anyway, it was a stupid way of picking an opponent!The Maidana we saw last night is completely different to the Maidana who fought Khan. He's looking stronger and has a whole lot more stamina under his trainer Garcia and the conditioning coach Ariza. Apparently they started using Ariza for Broner but only had him for two weeks but for the Mayweather fight they had him the full 8 weeks.
With regards to the fight, it went very differently to how I expected but it was all the better for it. It was nice to see an opponent grit his teeth and show Mayweather no respect and keep in his grill from the first bell to the last bell. Mayweather had no choice but to fight back, particularly from the mid fight onwards. I also disagree with Mayweather when he says that he could have made the fight an easy one but chose not to. Looking back, he has only ever been bothered by relentless pressure fighters in Castillo and Maidana and although they both came very close, they still came up short against him.
I don't think I can argue with outcome. Some rounds were so close that you could argue with anything from a draw to a two round lead by Mayweather.
As for this fight giving us a good indication of how a fight with Pacquiao goes, well, I don't really agree with that. Pacquiao is a not a relentless pressure fighter, he uses movement and quick feet to jump in and do his work and then jump back out again. When he faces counter punchers (Marquez, Bradley, etc..) his high work rate drastically reduces because he winds up jumping onto punches. I can see Mayweather having a field day with that.
If he does fight Maidana again then I see it being more of the same, a very hard fought that Mayweather will have a slightly easier time winning only because he'll take the initiative earlier he next time around.
Edited by Robatr0n on Sunday 4th May 23:31
Amirhussain said:
You make good points, I think your defo right when you say Khan needs to bring something to the table, a belt would be his best bet.
Either way, if the fight does happen, the build up/hype is going to be wicked, I know its unlikely, but just IMAGINE if Khan beat Mayweather?!
You know what; the more I think about it, the more convinced I become that Pacquiao is the way forward for Khan. Khan's priority is clearly to be involved in the biggest fights, but there are still hurdles to getting a fight with Mayweather signed (dates, potential Maidana rematch, Mayweather's tendency to pEither way, if the fight does happen, the build up/hype is going to be wicked, I know its unlikely, but just IMAGINE if Khan beat Mayweather?!
ss about with negotiations, etc). And while Mayweather is undeniably the biggest name in boxing right now, Pacquiao has to be a bldy close second. I'm guessing it would be a hell of a lot easier to get signed up too; not only because there probably wouldn't be the same dates issues but Pacquiao seems to be running short on credible options as well...he's got his revenge on Bradley, a fight with Mayweather doesn't seem any closer and, apart from a fifth fight with Marquez, what other big box-office match-ups are there on the horizon for him? Add to that the Freddie Roach angle (star pupil vs former pupil) and you've got a massive fight, and one where Khan has a significantly stronger negotiating position (what was the split on Saturday's fight...Mayweather $30m, Maidana $1.5m or something?!).Take the Pacquiao fight and what's the worst that can happen? He gets beaten and misses his chance to fight Mayweather. Okay, but Pacquiao is still a fighter where there is no shame losing to him. So Khan goes off and picks things up going after the likes of Bradley, Alexander, Thurman, etc; not forgetting a still huge domestic fight with Brook. Not only that, but he might actually make more money out of a fight with Pacquiao than with Mayweather...and he can still say he stepped in the ring with one of the all-time greats. And that's the worst that can happen...
...win it, and suddenly the whole landscape changes. He holds a belt, he's beaten a legend and now he's negotiating for a (now even bigger) fight with Mayweather from a far stronger position. 60-40 split? Yeah, a possibility. Fight in May? Sure...who cares if he's not of Latin descent?! It's a whole different ball-game then...!
All good stuff Yilly which all makes business sense from AK's POV, but would he get anywhere near a 60-40 split with Mayweather should be beat MP? I can't see that ... Mayweather will fight who HE wants to fight, on HIS terms surely ...
His ego surely won't let him retire just yet - I live in hope of seeing him dumped on his backside just the once ...
His ego surely won't let him retire just yet - I live in hope of seeing him dumped on his backside just the once ...
Yeah, the 60-40 was just an illustration; i.e. a figure that recognises it won't be a 50-50 split but a more even allocation than the purse for the Maidana fight...hence the use of 'possibility'. Mayweather would still hold the upper hand, of course, but if the one question mark over Mayweather's legacy is that he didn't fight Pacquiao, then fighting/beating the man who beat him is the next best thing. And from Khan's perspective, he'd have already beaten a legend so his legacy is already looking solid; hence he'd probably be a little less inclined (metaphorically) to bend over and apply the KY Jelly just to get the Mayweather fight...
The Khan that fought Collazo was a very good Khan, what I enjoyed the most was the fact that he remained disciplined. Virgil Hunter working his magic, I see no reason why Khan can't continue winning fights if he carries on like he did against Collazo, and possibly even beat Mayweather, that's if the fight happens (hopefully).
Khan vs Paqman could be very interesting too, like Yiliterate said, the worst that could happen is that he loses, but losing to Pacquiao isn't something to be ashamed off, and if he wins, a fight with Mayweather HAS to happen, if not, Mayweather would be seen as the one who pussied out of fighting Khan.
Also, Adrien Broner called out Pacquiao, don't think that's sensible, he'll get massacred.
Khan vs Paqman could be very interesting too, like Yiliterate said, the worst that could happen is that he loses, but losing to Pacquiao isn't something to be ashamed off, and if he wins, a fight with Mayweather HAS to happen, if not, Mayweather would be seen as the one who pussied out of fighting Khan.
Also, Adrien Broner called out Pacquiao, don't think that's sensible, he'll get massacred.
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