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FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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There is a short interview with Amir Khan on the BBC website discussing the Algieri match, he was saying he felt a little over trained and reckons he'd left something in the gym - I thought that's unlikely until I heard Steve Bunce say on his podcast that in the final few weeks of the camp leading up the fight Khan had done 250 rounds of sparring!!! 250 rounds in a few weeks!

Khan seems confident that Al Hayman is going to sort him out to fight Mayweather in September and Mayweather wants it too, it's only Mayweather Snr who has reservations, I think it could happen!

menousername

2,109 posts

143 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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FredClogs said:
There is a short interview with Amir Khan on the BBC website discussing the Algieri match, he was saying he felt a little over trained and reckons he'd left something in the gym - I thought that's unlikely until I heard Steve Bunce say on his podcast that in the final few weeks of the camp leading up the fight Khan had done 250 rounds of sparring!!! 250 rounds in a few weeks!

Khan seems confident that Al Hayman is going to sort him out to fight Mayweather in September and Mayweather wants it too, it's only Mayweather Snr who has reservations, I think it could happen!
14 week camp though

briangriffin

1,586 posts

169 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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menousername said:
14 week camp though
Which is far to long imo, 12 week max. Khan does tend to blow up a little between fights though. He's still not quite living the life all year round which will shorten his career in my opinion.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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menousername said:
14 week camp though
Say it was a 12.5 week camp (to make the sums easier) that's 20 rounds of sparring a week, obviously there's sparring and sparring but I can't see that they hold back at that level, I mean what's the point in sparring if it's not close to "real" conditions? When they pay to get a guy in to spar I presume they expect him to provide value for money. It does seem excessive but I'm a pussified Joe Blogs.

menousername

2,109 posts

143 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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FredClogs said:
Say it was a 12.5 week camp (to make the sums easier) that's 20 rounds of sparring a week, obviously there's sparring and sparring but I can't see that they hold back at that level, I mean what's the point in sparring if it's not close to "real" conditions? When they pay to get a guy in to spar I presume they expect him to provide value for money. It does seem excessive but I'm a pussified Joe Blogs.
4 rounds a day = less than 20 mins a day sparring, assuming 5 training days a week (not sure what the usual training pattern is)

and it wouldnt be close to a competitive match no... otherwise there would be risk of injury and cuts etc.


Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Timing and intensity of sparring will typically vary according to how far away the fight is and the attitude of the trainer/gym. Regarding that latter part, it's the stuff of boxing folklore that sparring in the Kronk gym was often more brutal than the fights themselves!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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What the deuce.

Floyd Mayweather Jr is keen to fight Amir Khan at Wembley Stadium and repeat the success of Carl Froch and George Groves' bout at the national stadium.

Froch secured an eighth-round knockout against Groves in the IBF and WBA super-middleweight title bout in front of 80,000 on Saturday in the biggest British fight for four decades.

Khan has been chasing a fight with Mayweather Jr for over two years and after laying down another challenge to the unbeaten American at the weekend, the 37 year old has responded claiming he would relish the opportunity to compete in front of a British crowd.

"It's been a goal to come to the UK and put on a spectacular event and the plan is to do just that," he told The Sun.

"I love all my fans in the UK and I want to go there and give a good show at Wembley before I retire. I plan to come in the near future. I want to continue to make history with the mega events we put on.

"The Floyd Mayweather brand is globally recognised. The warm welcome over there in UK is a good indicator of the magnitude of success a fight would have. We're looking forward to it in the future."

Mayweather Jr, who has three fights remaining on his Showtime Television contract, has continually dodged a meeting with Khan – recently deciding to fight Argentine Marcos Maidana in May while the Brit beat Luis Collazo impressively on the undercard.

After watching Froch and Groves compete in front of a capacity crowd at the national stadium, Khan is confident a meeting in 2015 with Mayweather Jr – unbeaten in 46 professional fights – would eclipse that bout.
"I think it will be the biggest fight ever in Britain," he said. "Global interest would come to England and we'd sell out Wembley.

"I really want to bring this fight to the UK. I've fought all over the world and been top of bill but this would be so much bigger.

"They have done a fantastic job hyping Groves and Froch but this fight is on another level. Floyd is boxing. Britain would shut down. It would be like the World Cup final of boxing."
A potential meeting between the pair was thrown into doubt on Tuesday when Mayweather Jr split with Golden Boy Promotions – the co-promoter of his fights alongside his own company Mayweather Promotions – after Richard Schaefer's resignation as chief executive.

Khan signed a deal with Golden Boy in April, in a deal which was expected to ease negotiations over a potential meeting

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/floyd-mayweather-agrees-...

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th June 2015
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Arse. Some tt mate just shared it and I skim read it. Very old article!! Off to kill him.

Katzenjammer

1,085 posts

179 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Part of me thinks Khan would have no chance against Mayweather, then immediately afterwards part of me thinks well maybe he has a chance. For example, if Floyd has a really bad day at the office, or just finally loses the stomach for it by round four as often suddenly happens to many's a great fighter.

But, looking at the cold, hard facts, the likelihood is that Floyd will do a Floyd, Khan will do a Khan, and Floyd will win. How that manifests in terms of KO or the distance, who knows.

I would say 33% chance of it over in 2 rounds, 33% chance of a 12 round snooze fest, 33% chance of a really good fight, 1% chance of a drone or paraglider landing in the ring. They'd certainly need a very good undercard as a contingency.

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Interesting news...Martin Murray signs with Matchroom and announces he's stepping up to Super-Middleweight:

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/13315856._/

StuTheGrouch

5,735 posts

163 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Yiliterate said:
Interesting news...Martin Murray signs with Matchroom and announces he's stepping up to Super-Middleweight:

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/13315856._/
Good move in terms of his size. He is a big middleweight, but he is moving up to one of the most competitive divisions so he will need to be at his absolute best.

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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StuTheGrouch said:
Yiliterate said:
Interesting news...Martin Murray signs with Matchroom and announces he's stepping up to Super-Middleweight:

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/13315856._/
Good move in terms of his size. He is a big middleweight, but he is moving up to one of the most competitive divisions so he will need to be at his absolute best.
The real positive for Murray is that much of the competition in that division is British (as I may have mentioned, that's OUR bloody division!!!). Consequently, his inability to fight in the US doesn't prevent him aiming for some of the biggest fights out there...

StuTheGrouch

5,735 posts

163 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Damn right that's our division!

That's a very good point actually, I forgot he couldn't fight in the US

StuTheGrouch

5,735 posts

163 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Active super middle weights-



Froch isn't included due to inactivity. Unfortunately the top 15 is as many Germans as UK, but that will change. Also Fielding and Callum Smith will climb up the rankings to overtake the Germans

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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StuTheGrouch said:
Damn right that's our division!

That's a very good point actually, I forgot he couldn't fight in the US
Yeah - plus three big name Germany-based fighters in the list above as well....

StuTheGrouch

5,735 posts

163 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Yiliterate said:
Yeah - plus three big name Germany-based fighters in the list above as well....
Two of which are near retirement

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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StuTheGrouch said:
Yiliterate said:
Yeah - plus three big name Germany-based fighters in the list above as well....
Two of which are near retirement
True, but still the opportunity for a fight or two there...personally I'd quite like Murray to get another crack at Sturm; first fight was a decent contest that I felt Murray edged.

StuTheGrouch

5,735 posts

163 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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I agree. Would be interesting whether Sturm vs Murray would be the same contest at a higher weight

lord trumpton

7,406 posts

127 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Katzenjammer said:
Part of me thinks Khan would have no chance against Mayweather, then immediately afterwards part of me thinks well maybe he has a chance. For example, if Floyd has a really bad day at the office, or just finally loses the stomach for it by round four as often suddenly happens to many's a great fighter.

But, looking at the cold, hard facts, the likelihood is that Floyd will do a Floyd, Khan will do a Khan, and Floyd will win. How that manifests in terms of KO or the distance, who knows.

I would say 33% chance of it over in 2 rounds, 33% chance of a 12 round snooze fest, 33% chance of a really good fight, 1% chance of a drone or paraglider landing in the ring. They'd certainly need a very good undercard as a contingency.
Khan didn't really do anything special against Algieri, where Manny knocked him over 6 times and controlled the fight.

Khan has little to offer and Floyd will just slip and slide his way to victory.

I'd like to see Khan fight Manny - that would be a good tear up to watch

StuTheGrouch

5,735 posts

163 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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That's the fight I want too, but with Manny injured it's unlikely to ever happen.

The big fight I REALLY want to see this year is Joshua vs Price. There's talk of Joshua taking on Whyte, who beat him as an amateur. That fight makes me feel nervous- the one guy with a psychological advantage and a very good pro record too. Seems like it could be a banana skin fight.
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