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dirty boy

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14,706 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Fittster said:
Anyway a list of opponents I'd like to see Joshua fight:

Lucas Browne - Commonwealth HW Champ currently has 22 / 0 with 19 KOs

Tony Thompson - Let's see if Joshua is David Price MKII

Ruslan Chagaev - Small but only lost against Wlad and Povetkin.
Agree entirely.

If he came through fights like that with decent wins, then he's legitimate top ranked and deserves a title shot, nothing wrong with the likes of Jennings, Stiverne and Pulev.

I think Once we get to Wilder, Povetkin and Wlad (even Fury?) that's when things will get serious.

Let him fight Whyte, if it's a score that needs settling and someone's mouth needs shutting (whoever it may be) then I'm all for it. He still needs to be taken seriously as a threat though, he's not a small guy.

spikeyhead

17,366 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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dirty boy said:
Fittster said:
Anyway a list of opponents I'd like to see Joshua fight:

Lucas Browne - Commonwealth HW Champ currently has 22 / 0 with 19 KOs

Tony Thompson - Let's see if Joshua is David Price MKII

Ruslan Chagaev - Small but only lost against Wlad and Povetkin.
Agree entirely.

If he came through fights like that with decent wins, then he's legitimate top ranked and deserves a title shot, nothing wrong with the likes of Jennings, Stiverne and Pulev.

I think Once we get to Wilder, Povetkin and Wlad (even Fury?) that's when things will get serious.

Let him fight Whyte, if it's a score that needs settling and someone's mouth needs shutting (whoever it may be) then I'm all for it. He still needs to be taken seriously as a threat though, he's not a small guy.
I've just added them up and counted 24 rounds as a pro, and that includes a few rounds that ended in under a minute. He's good, and if he hits anyone they are going to stay hit, but there is a lot we don't know.

Challo

10,211 posts

156 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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spikeyhead said:
dirty boy said:
Fittster said:
Anyway a list of opponents I'd like to see Joshua fight:

Lucas Browne - Commonwealth HW Champ currently has 22 / 0 with 19 KOs

Tony Thompson - Let's see if Joshua is David Price MKII

Ruslan Chagaev - Small but only lost against Wlad and Povetkin.
Agree entirely.

If he came through fights like that with decent wins, then he's legitimate top ranked and deserves a title shot, nothing wrong with the likes of Jennings, Stiverne and Pulev.

I think Once we get to Wilder, Povetkin and Wlad (even Fury?) that's when things will get serious.

Let him fight Whyte, if it's a score that needs settling and someone's mouth needs shutting (whoever it may be) then I'm all for it. He still needs to be taken seriously as a threat though, he's not a small guy.
I've just added them up and counted 24 rounds as a pro, and that includes a few rounds that ended in under a minute. He's good, and if he hits anyone they are going to stay hit, but there is a lot we don't know.
I don't understand how the WBC can rank him so highly. Yes he has knocked everyone out, but against journeymen or guys at the end of their career. He needs to go up against some decent opponents. How many more easy fights does Hearn think he needs.
Im one for taking it slow but after 12 fights he has to be fighting quality not quantity.

Would the next logical steps to be British, European and then World Champion?

Edited by Challo on Thursday 11th June 12:51

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Yiliterate said:
Joshua has also been installed as WBC #2.
The WBC is a bit silly isn't it. Their webstite states Joshua and Int Champion (presume that is international) behind Wilder, the Champion and Klitchko, the "Emeritus Champion". They also note Chugaev, Pulez and Tyson Fury as unavailable to be ranked - presumably because they hold high ranks or mandatory positions in other associations or won't pay what it costs to be ranked by the WBC.

I think Eddie Hearn is great and is doing great things for British boxing but if he's paid a big sum of money to get Joshua that ranking then frankly it's money wasted.

Gerradi

1,542 posts

121 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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If I were Hearn I wouldn't risk Joshua against Ruslan Chagaev just yet, unless he (Ruslan) has deteriorated quite a bit, he is a really good fighter, I think one to avoid .

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Lee Haskins....what a shot!!!

jules_s

4,292 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Yiliterate said:
Lee Haskins....what a shot!!!
Great shot, respect to the local lad

Not hugely impressed over all though

mikebradford

2,527 posts

146 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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Yiliterate said:
Lee Haskins....what a shot!!!
Great fight
exciting from start to finish
The blood on / from the ear looked worrying, so hope the guy is ok

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Saturday 13th June 2015
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mikebradford said:
Yiliterate said:
Lee Haskins....what a shot!!!
Great fight
exciting from start to finish
The blood on / from the ear looked worrying, so hope the guy is ok
Yeah, slightly concerning; plus them giving him oxygen too...but thankfully he seemed okay.

To be honest, I can't remember the last time I saw a punch being wound up from so far back...but it was an absolute cracker! Just hope he can make a few quid off the back of it now.

tuscaneer

7,774 posts

226 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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Missed that show......

The Nicholas Walters show was pretty good...

That 'el diamonte' kid from Puerto Rico is a superstar in the making!!!


Did anyone else get down to the mk dons stadium yesterday for the signing event???

fking great. I got my photo with carl froch, Anthony Joshua,kell Brook,lee selby, Kevin Mitchell, ricky burns, Frank bruno and Darren barker.....



....and being stood next to Joshua , no, I didn't have the bks to ask him if david price floored him in sparring !!!!!

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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tuscaneer said:
Missed that show......

The Nicholas Walters show was pretty good...

That 'el diamonte' kid from Puerto Rico is a superstar in the making!!!


Did anyone else get down to the mk dons stadium yesterday for the signing event???

fking great. I got my photo with carl froch, Anthony Joshua,kell Brook,lee selby, Kevin Mitchell, ricky burns, Frank bruno and Darren barker.....



....and being stood next to Joshua , no, I didn't have the bks to ask him if david price floored him in sparring !!!!!
Gah! Why didn't you post on here that was coming up?! I'd have definitely come up for that!

Forgot to mention, had a (very) brief chat with Jim McDonnell coming home from the Brook-Gavin show. Really nice, genuine and humble guy - it was a pleasure to have met him.

Haven't got round to watching the Walters card yet but have seen the Heavyweight title fight. With all due respect to Molina, I think he was the least convincing challenger for the heavyweight title I've seen. He looked the sort of opponent the likes of Audley Harrison would routinely blow away...and yet he didn't look massively out of his depth against Wilder and really actually had an opportunity to pull off a massive upset. Frankly, if it had been any other heavyweight from Lucas Browne upwards in there, Wilder could have been in a whole heap of trouble...

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Sunday 14th June 2015
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For anyone who missed the Lee Haskins fight, if you've got Sky, I've just noticed Ch175 is 'Channel 5 +24' and the fight is on at 10pm tonight...

tuscaneer

7,774 posts

226 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Yiliterate said:
Gah! Why didn't you post on here that was coming up?! I'd have definitely come up for that!

Forgot to mention, had a (very) brief chat with Jim McDonnell coming home from the Brook-Gavin show. Really nice, genuine and humble guy - it was a pleasure to have met him.

Haven't got round to watching the Walters card yet but have seen the Heavyweight title fight. With all due respect to Molina, I think he was the least convincing challenger for the heavyweight title I've seen. He looked the sort of opponent the likes of Audley Harrison would routinely blow away...and yet he didn't look massively out of his depth against Wilder and really actually had an opportunity to pull off a massive upset. Frankly, if it had been any other heavyweight from Lucas Browne upwards in there, Wilder could have been in a whole heap of trouble...
i know mate, i saw it a few weeks ago but it went out of my mind. the wife had a hen do and the mother in law said she'd take the kids then......bang, i was off. didn't stop to think about you guys in here so apologies fella

StuTheGrouch

5,740 posts

163 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Yiliterate said:
tuscaneer said:
Missed that show......

The Nicholas Walters show was pretty good...

That 'el diamonte' kid from Puerto Rico is a superstar in the making!!!


Did anyone else get down to the mk dons stadium yesterday for the signing event???

fking great. I got my photo with carl froch, Anthony Joshua,kell Brook,lee selby, Kevin Mitchell, ricky burns, Frank bruno and Darren barker.....



....and being stood next to Joshua , no, I didn't have the bks to ask him if david price floored him in sparring !!!!!
Gah! Why didn't you post on here that was coming up?! I'd have definitely come up for that!

Forgot to mention, had a (very) brief chat with Jim McDonnell coming home from the Brook-Gavin show. Really nice, genuine and humble guy - it was a pleasure to have met him.

Haven't got round to watching the Walters card yet but have seen the Heavyweight title fight. With all due respect to Molina, I think he was the least convincing challenger for the heavyweight title I've seen. He looked the sort of opponent the likes of Audley Harrison would routinely blow away...and yet he didn't look massively out of his depth against Wilder and really actually had an opportunity to pull off a massive upset. Frankly, if it had been any other heavyweight from Lucas Browne upwards in there, Wilder could have been in a whole heap of trouble...
Yeah, why didn't you mention it??!?!?!?! I live 20 minutes away from MK Dons!

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Yiliterate said:
Haven't got round to watching the Walters card yet but have seen the Heavyweight title fight. With all due respect to Molina, I think he was the least convincing challenger for the heavyweight title I've seen. He looked the sort of opponent the likes of Audley Harrison would routinely blow away...and yet he didn't look massively out of his depth against Wilder and really actually had an opportunity to pull off a massive upset. Frankly, if it had been any other heavyweight from Lucas Browne upwards in there, Wilder could have been in a whole heap of trouble...
Wilder worked his way to a title shot by fighting opponents who I'll politely call journeymen, he then beat stiverne for which he deserves credit but now he's the champion he's not going to be able to have such compliant opposition.

"After his beautiful four-knockdown, 9th round knockout victory over a game challenge Eric Molina (23-3, 17 KOs) last Saturday, WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (34-0, 33 KOs) says he’s now ready for his #1 WBC mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin (29-1, 21 KOs) in what could be the 29-year-old Wilder’s next fight later this year.

“I’m looking forward to my first mandatory,” Wilder said after the fight last night at the Bartow Arena, in Birmingham, Alabama, USA."


What surprises me is the belief that Wilder fans have in his ability to beat Povetkin or any other top class heavyweight.





Edited by Fittster on Monday 15th June 11:00

tuscaneer

7,774 posts

226 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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StuTheGrouch said:
Yiliterate said:
tuscaneer said:
Missed that show......

The Nicholas Walters show was pretty good...

That 'el diamonte' kid from Puerto Rico is a superstar in the making!!!


Did anyone else get down to the mk dons stadium yesterday for the signing event???

fking great. I got my photo with carl froch, Anthony Joshua,kell Brook,lee selby, Kevin Mitchell, ricky burns, Frank bruno and Darren barker.....



....and being stood next to Joshua , no, I didn't have the bks to ask him if david price floored him in sparring !!!!!
Gah! Why didn't you post on here that was coming up?! I'd have definitely come up for that!

Forgot to mention, had a (very) brief chat with Jim McDonnell coming home from the Brook-Gavin show. Really nice, genuine and humble guy - it was a pleasure to have met him.

Haven't got round to watching the Walters card yet but have seen the Heavyweight title fight. With all due respect to Molina, I think he was the least convincing challenger for the heavyweight title I've seen. He looked the sort of opponent the likes of Audley Harrison would routinely blow away...and yet he didn't look massively out of his depth against Wilder and really actually had an opportunity to pull off a massive upset. Frankly, if it had been any other heavyweight from Lucas Browne upwards in there, Wilder could have been in a whole heap of trouble...
Yeah, why didn't you mention it??!?!?!?! I live 20 minutes away from MK Dons!
Oh lads!!! .....may I apologise once more....i feel a right now!!

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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tuscaneer said:
Fittster said:
Turning that around, Price's record was of beating people such as Skelton, Audley Harrison and Sam Sexton. Are they really better than martin rogan and michael sprott?

I don't see any obvious difference in their records to say Price is a higher quality boxer. It's a big fight for them both and it could go either way. Price has power but if your his opponent you are going to be thinking if you plant one on his chin it's all over.

Edited by Fittster on Thursday 21st May 16:48
i was of the opinion that price's amateur credentials were far superior than that of teper but i must admit that while teper didn't medal at an olympic games he DID amass an incredible amateur record of :

2003 and 2004 West German Champion
2006 German Championships silver medal 2006
2008 World Military Championships silver medal

amateur record: 130-14-2

looks like we've got a fight on our hands!
Price v Erkan Teper in Germany on July 17 for the European Heavyweight title.


tuscaneer

7,774 posts

226 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Fittster said:
Price v Erkan Teper in Germany on July 17 for the European Heavyweight title.
Yeah price out of the liverpool date with a neck injury....i was worrying that it wouldn't be rescheduled...I'm made up now

StuTheGrouch

5,740 posts

163 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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tuscaneer said:
Oh lads!!! .....may I apologise once more....i feel a right now!!
I'm not angry. I'm just very disappointed

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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StuTheGrouch said:
tuscaneer said:
Oh lads!!! .....may I apologise once more....i feel a right now!!
I'm not angry. I'm just very disappointed
Yeah, you disappoint us tuscaneer...


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