The **BOXING** thread

[Birkin1932]

He's just getting himself out of a tax avoidance situation. Film schemes are being chased by HMRC, lots of ex footballers also being forced into bankruptcy, done properly he will be OK financially, the head injuries are another matter

[Gerradi]

One of all time greats Azumah Nelson, who McGuigan managed to avoid at all costs (Lol), in a fascinating interview. An amazing fighter, having said that he was lucky to get the decision in the 1st Fenech fight. Enjoy...
http://www.boxingchannel.tv/azumah-nelson-tells-gr...

Painting a wall & thought I'd watch this in between coats .. pure gold...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKh-OsOOBkg
http://www.boxingchannel.tv/roberto-duran-vs-pipin...

Edited by Gerradi on Saturday 28th March 13:05

[Yiliterate]

Very good night for Kell Brook last night:

Chance to defend his title in his home town - tick
Enough rounds to shake off any rust from his enforced absence - tick
A bit of live practice against a southpaw (which is always useful) - tick
Showing no physical effects from the stabbing - tick

...and, for me, probably the most important thing...

Showing no psychological effects from the stabbing - tick

Good on ya, Kell...really looking forward to seeing what the future holds for you over the next year or two!

[STW2010]

I haven't yet watched the fight from last night, but gather from the reports that Brook blew him away.

So, what do we all think about Brook vs Khan? Will it happen, and who wins?

[Yiliterate]

STW2010 said:

I haven't yet watched the fight from last night, but gather from the reports that Brook blew him away.

So, what do we all think about Brook vs Khan? Will it happen, and who wins?

Kell wants it - that much is clear - and with the announcement of the Mayweather-Paquiao fight, it might just be the case that a title fight with Brook at Wembley Stadium has become a considerably more interesting option for Khan too.

Firstly, the big spring/summer showdown with either Mayweather or Pacquiao is obviously no longer out there for Khan, so the contest with Brook is now almost certainly the biggest of the viable options at this stage.

Secondly, and this could be crucial, if Khan turns down that fight and instead Brook takes on, say, Juan Manuel Marquez and wins impressively, it might be the case that Brook then jumps ahead of Khan in terms of lining up the winner of Mayweather-Pacquiao; not only will Brook's credibility have taken a big step forward but he'd still be holding the one other title in the division...and, for the winner of Money-Pacman, the chance to unify all four belts would arguably be the one final crowning glory left to achieve in their careers (other than the half-century for Floyd) and a brilliant position from which to bow out.

Personally, I'd love to see Brook-Khan...I think it would be an absolutely sensational fight and fantastic for British boxing, proving events like Froch-Groves needn't be a once-in-a-generation occurrence.

Edited by Yiliterate on Sunday 29th March 12:56

[lord trumpton]

Yiliterate said:

STW2010 said:

I haven't yet watched the fight from last night, but gather from the reports that Brook blew him away.

So, what do we all think about Brook vs Khan? Will it happen, and who wins?

Kell wants it - that much is clear - and with the announcement of the Mayweather-Paquiao fight, it might just be the case that a title fight with Brook at Wembley Stadium has become a considerably more interesting option for Khan too.

Firstly, the big spring/summer showdown with either Mayweather or Pacquiao is obviously no longer out there for Khan, so the contest with Brook is now almost certainly the biggest of the viable options at this stage.

Secondly, and this could be crucial, if Khan turns down that fight and instead Brook takes on, say, Juan Manuel Marquez and wins impressively, it might be the case that Brook then jumps ahead of Khan in terms of lining up the winner of Mayweather-Pacquiao; not only will Brook's credibility have taken a big step forward but he'd still be holding the one other title in the division...and, for the winner of Money-Pacman, the chance to unify all four belts would arguably be the one final crowning glory left to achieve in their careers (other than the half-century for Floyd) and a brilliant position from which to bow out.

Personally, I'd love to see Brook-Khan...I think it would be an absolutely sensational fight and fantastic for British boxing, proving events like Froch-Groves needn't be a once-in-a-generation occurrence.

Edited by Yiliterate on Sunday 29th March 12:56

Good post

[STW2010]

Agreed, good post.

But who do you think would win?

[tuscaneer]

khan/brook is an absolute belter of a fight and as yilliterate points out if khan doesn't take it then brook will most likely leapfrog him for the bigger fights.


how does it go down???

for a long while i was convinced khan took this by outpointing brook with speedy countering......but it's only recently i have been getting more respect for the amount of power brook carries...

aarrgghh!! i don't know!!...i can see khan getting off to a decent lead but brook pulling it back later on ......whoever wins, it's either a late stoppage for brook or khan on points in a close decision...

[dirty boy]

I was actually quite concerned about Brook. Hadn't seen much at all of JJD, but he looked busy and awkward.

I guess we should have remembered how Brook dealt with Porter, who is VERY busy and awkward. As mentioned, he looked like he'd never had any problems, nice to see.

With respect to a potential fight with Khan, it needs to be noted, Amir has fought at a far higher level than Brook thus far and there's no doubting the lad is technically very good and can punch. At this moment, I'd favour Khan, but i'd prefer Brook (if that makes sense!)

If Brook can take out someone like Garcia (doubt there'd be much money in that one) or be mad (and brave) enough to take on Thurman he'd probably jump Khan in the race to take on the P4P#1

[SR7492]

dirty boy said:

With respect to a potential fight with Khan, it needs to be noted, Amir has fought at a far higher level than Brook thus far and there's no doubting the lad is technically very good and can punch.

Apart from Porter, Brook has not fought anyone of a decent standard. The fight on Saturday was a joke, if I'm honest. I know it was his 'mandatory' defense but let us all be clear, it was a training session, not a fight.

Anyway, it is really interesting to see the comments from both camps. As far as I can see, Brook is basically looking for a pay day and a big one. He is only going to get that with fighting Khan.

Khan says Brook needs to up his CV and then they can look to make the fight next year, providing Brook holds onto the belt.

Brook is desperately calling out Khan
Khan saying he has bigger fish to fry (with Broner or Cotto in the mix for a June fight)

Who needs who first?

[dirty boy]

Brook needs Khan first, but if Khan isn't very careful, Brook could pick up a fight elsewhere and jump Khan in the queue as he's the one holding a belt.

Mayweather and Manny will both have one eye on Brook whilst he has that.

[STW2010]

I think they both need each other.

My view is that Khan would beat Brook quite comfortably. Khan's chin is always up for debate but look at his two KO losses, the punches which stopped him would have knocked down most fighters.

[Gerradi]

STW2010 said:

I think they both need each other.

My view is that Khan would beat Brook quite comfortably. Khan's chin is always up for debate but look at his two KO losses, the punches which stopped him would have knocked down most fighters.

I agree with this , in fact I think Brook would do well to have a few defence's to get better quality opponents before Khan, if (big one) he beat Khan then maybe Maywether but he should stay away from Manny.

[STW2010]

I think Brook would have more trouble against Mayweather than Manny, but believe that Brook loses (easily) to both plus Khan.

I am a big fan of Brook (believe it or not), but I just see him as a league below many others in the division. The most competitive division in the sport of boxing!

[Gerradi]

Well we may find out, 5 Live news said that Khan has accepted Brooks challenge & should be arranged within a year!

Brook may get well frustrated with Mayweather & be taught a boxing lesson but I think a Mayweather fight might be psychically less demanding than a Manny fight.

[dirty boy]

STW2010 said:

I think they both need each other.

Indeed, the sooner Khan realises that the better, hence he appears to be softening his stance very quickly the past few days.

I see Khan as a winner in the match up, but it's all about levels and sometimes boxers step up to the next level and perform as required, so there's no guarantee Brook wouldn't up his game and do the job, you simply can't tell what will happen until he fights at that level. Khan has had an excellent upbringing though, moving stateside, working with Roach and Hunter undoubtedly gives valuable experience.

Brook is no mug in the ring though, that's for sure.

[FredClogs]

Khan beats Brook in my opinion but it will be a great fight.

They said on the radio today that Ward has called out Froch and says he'll come and do it in the UK, but not in Nottingham - well you can't blame him for that, I guess that needs to happen asap, Froch isn't getting any younger and Wards done a handfull of rounds in 4 years. Could it all happen on a mega billing this summer?

[Gerradi]

Still think Brook would be wise to have a warm up fight than straight in with Khan...as was said he has had the pedigree of Hunter & Roach tall order for Brook!

Has Ward only just called Froch ?? I thought Froch was saying he wants Chavez then retire ...unless its gamesmanship to reel Ward in ?

[FredClogs]

Gerradi said:

Still think Brook would be wise to have a warm up fight than straight in with Khan...as was said he has had the pedigree of Hunter & Roach tall order for Brook!

Has Ward only just called Froch ?? I thought Froch was saying he wants Chavez then retire ...unless its gamesmanship to reel Ward in ?

Who knows, it may be just paper talk but it was today's paper talk... http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2414993-andre...

I can't see Froch risking his legacy by getting in a ring with Golovkin, he knows at worst Ward will out class him but it'll be close and he's got a decent chance, Golovkin could really hurt him and leave him KO'd in the early rounds which I imagine isn't how he wants to be remembered.

[Robatr0n]

I'm probably in the minority but to my mind Froch stands more of a chance against someone like Golovkin than he does against Ward. Although Golovkin can box, he does steam in straight on and shrug his opponents shots off whereas Ward is a mover but can fight surprisingly well on the inside. Can GGG take Froch's shots? Who would he react to fighting on the back foot? I'd be keen to find out and I think it'd be a good old fashion tear-up for as long as it lasts. My only concern would be for Froch taking a fight like that at his advanced years.

Ward completely outclassed Froch last time around so I think those scorecards need to be taken with a pinch of salt because the judges had that fight way closer than it actually was.