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kazste

5,679 posts

199 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Same here had site open watched the countdown got to zero, put me back onto the front page clicked in and selected the cheap seats which it wouldnt give me and kept putting £85 tickets in basket. Now like you say all sold out but sites as per usual are full of tickets who unfortunately for them have realised in the past five minutes that theyve double booked and cannot make the match.
I truly feel sorry for them as i bet they're gutted and wish they'd checked their calendars before booking.

Challo

10,168 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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kazste said:
Same here had site open watched the countdown got to zero, put me back onto the front page clicked in and selected the cheap seats which it wouldnt give me and kept putting £85 tickets in basket. Now like you say all sold out but sites as per usual are full of tickets who unfortunately for them have realised in the past five minutes that theyve double booked and cannot make the match.
I truly feel sorry for them as i bet they're gutted and wish they'd checked their calendars before booking.
Looks like im going to have to bite the bullet and get seats up in the gods which is not ideal. Took my girlfriend to Wembley last year, and we got tickets released from the team, which was fine but it was right behind the End Zone and low down so she only got a limited view of the game.


stephen300o

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15,464 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Those places shouldn't be a able to block book like that, it screws everyone.

kazste

5,679 posts

199 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Does anyone know when the teams will release their tickets?

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Season tickets were purchased again this year (same seats at Wembley as last year and the year before). Though how the seat alocation will work at Twickenham I have no idea.

kazste said:
Does anyone know when the teams will release their tickets?
Its usually a lot later in the year I think the first time I went we didn't buy them until August/September. It is just a case of keeping an eye out for them.

Challo

10,168 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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PanzerCommander said:
Season tickets were purchased again this year (same seats at Wembley as last year and the year before). Though how the seat alocation will work at Twickenham I have no idea.

kazste said:
Does anyone know when the teams will release their tickets?
Its usually a lot later in the year I think the first time I went we didn't buy them until August/September. It is just a case of keeping an eye out for them.
I think we picked ours up around Sep time. You normally get updated via ticketmaster when they are released.

sato

582 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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This was a few years ago now, but having gone to Wembley on two seperate occasions I decided it wasnt worth the effort. A combination not being a hardcore fan so really struggling to work out what was going on without commentators explaining it all, and a lack of atmosphere.
I have got into the game a lot more this season, but am worried that the above points still apply. Any thoughts?

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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sato said:
This was a few years ago now, but having gone to Wembley on two seperate occasions I decided it wasnt worth the effort. A combination not being a hardcore fan so really struggling to work out what was going on without commentators explaining it all, and a lack of atmosphere.
I have got into the game a lot more this season, but am worried that the above points still apply. Any thoughts?
There are plenty of videos and help bits and bobs on the internet to assist you in getting your head around the various plays and the rules. I have been following the game for five years now and I am still learning about different plays etc. though its very much a secondary interest - I couldn't even tell you who half the players were in the Ravens starting lineup, and I follow them as my team of choice hehe

Challo

10,168 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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PanzerCommander said:
sato said:
This was a few years ago now, but having gone to Wembley on two seperate occasions I decided it wasnt worth the effort. A combination not being a hardcore fan so really struggling to work out what was going on without commentators explaining it all, and a lack of atmosphere.
I have got into the game a lot more this season, but am worried that the above points still apply. Any thoughts?
There are plenty of videos and help bits and bobs on the internet to assist you in getting your head around the various plays and the rules. I have been following the game for five years now and I am still learning about different plays etc. though its very much a secondary interest - I couldn't even tell you who half the players were in the Ravens starting lineup, and I follow them as my team of choice hehe
Im the same as Panzer. Started getting more into it the last 5years and slowly picking more things up watching every game. Its a very technical sport, and lots of rules, but if you get the basics, and the principles of the game everything else will start filling in the gaps.

There are lots of rules which you will never know and unless you memorize the rule book there is no need. The big thing im starting to pick up on is the strategy of certain plays, why they ran a play vs throwing the ball. Seeing how offences and defensive read each other and how different set-ups drive behaviors on the opposition.

If you can try and watch the games on Sky Sports on a Sunday. They normally have a guy called Jeff Reinebold on who is a coach and is very good at breaking down the game and giving good insights.

Overall if you understand the principles and basics of the game its worth going.

skahigh

2,023 posts

132 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Challo said:
PanzerCommander said:
sato said:
This was a few years ago now, but having gone to Wembley on two seperate occasions I decided it wasnt worth the effort. A combination not being a hardcore fan so really struggling to work out what was going on without commentators explaining it all, and a lack of atmosphere.
I have got into the game a lot more this season, but am worried that the above points still apply. Any thoughts?
There are plenty of videos and help bits and bobs on the internet to assist you in getting your head around the various plays and the rules. I have been following the game for five years now and I am still learning about different plays etc. though its very much a secondary interest - I couldn't even tell you who half the players were in the Ravens starting lineup, and I follow them as my team of choice hehe
Im the same as Panzer. Started getting more into it the last 5years and slowly picking more things up watching every game. Its a very technical sport, and lots of rules, but if you get the basics, and the principles of the game everything else will start filling in the gaps.

There are lots of rules which you will never know and unless you memorize the rule book there is no need. The big thing im starting to pick up on is the strategy of certain plays, why they ran a play vs throwing the ball. Seeing how offences and defensive read each other and how different set-ups drive behaviors on the opposition.

If you can try and watch the games on Sky Sports on a Sunday. They normally have a guy called Jeff Reinebold on who is a coach and is very good at breaking down the game and giving good insights.

Overall if you understand the principles and basics of the game its worth going.
Agree with all of this.

I've been watching religiously for four years now I think and I've learned a tonne.

One thing I did a lot was google every term the commentators used that I didn't understand and looked at explanations of it and diagrams of plays that would explain it to me.

Also, I think you have to build your understanding in stages, e.g:

1. Basic rules - Scoring system, downs, punts, etc.
2. Positions - Understand the name and job of each position on the field
3. Tactics - e.g. When to run/pass/punt/kick FG, etc.
4. Complex rules/penalties - e.g. Holding, what constitutes a catch, etc.
5. Understanding complex play calls - e.g. What happened during this play action pass, how did the guard make that block upfield, etc.
6. I havn't reached this level yet smile

Each stage takes time to absorb as you watch more game footage, read news and analysis, learn who people are and what their job is, etc.

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Challo said:
Im the same as Panzer. Started getting more into it the last 5years and slowly picking more things up watching every game. Its a very technical sport, and lots of rules, but if you get the basics, and the principles of the game everything else will start filling in the gaps.

There are lots of rules which you will never know and unless you memorize the rule book there is no need. The big thing im starting to pick up on is the strategy of certain plays, why they ran a play vs throwing the ball. Seeing how offences and defensive read each other and how different set-ups drive behaviors on the opposition.

If you can try and watch the games on Sky Sports on a Sunday. They normally have a guy called Jeff Reinebold on who is a coach and is very good at breaking down the game and giving good insights.

Overall if you understand the principles and basics of the game its worth going.
yes

I enjoy watching his analysis of the various plays, he was an NFL coach I believe and now coaches the Hamilton Tiger Cats (CFL).

sato

582 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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skahigh said:
1. Basic rules - Scoring system, downs, punts, etc.
2. Positions - Understand the name and job of each position on the field
3. Tactics - e.g. When to run/pass/punt/kick FG, etc.
4. Complex rules/penalties - e.g. Holding, what constitutes a catch, etc.
5. Understanding complex play calls - e.g. What happened during this play action pass, how did the guard make that block upfield, etc.
6. I havn't reached this level yet smile
See, I reckon I have 1 and am probably a season off completing 2 or 3. Understanding a position and it's job with the comfort of close-ups and replays is one thing, but I'm a long way from being able to do that from from a seat somewhere miles from the pitch.

Challo

10,168 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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sato said:
skahigh said:
1. Basic rules - Scoring system, downs, punts, etc.
2. Positions - Understand the name and job of each position on the field
3. Tactics - e.g. When to run/pass/punt/kick FG, etc.
4. Complex rules/penalties - e.g. Holding, what constitutes a catch, etc.
5. Understanding complex play calls - e.g. What happened during this play action pass, how did the guard make that block upfield, etc.
6. I havn't reached this level yet smile
See, I reckon I have 1 and am probably a season off completing 2 or 3. Understanding a position and it's job with the comfort of close-ups and replays is one thing, but I'm a long way from being able to do that from from a seat somewhere miles from the pitch.
Well i would do go just for the sake of it being one of the only times you can see a game live, enjoy all the extras that go with it. Cheerleaders, Mascots, party crews, beers in your seat watching the game.

Mrs Challo is only just at level 1, but she loved going to the game last year.

kazste

5,679 posts

199 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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I like the numbered list, i think at level 6 you shoukd be pointing out the illegal formation due to the wide reciever!

Spent a lot of time in america so get to spend lots of time watching the games with people who know their stuff.

skahigh

2,023 posts

132 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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One of the things I love about the NFL is the intricate nature of the rules and how having a mastery of them can make the difference between a good player and a great one.

e.g. Every week you see A-Rod get free yardage for his team by getting the ball snapped while the defense are making substitutions.

Last season in a late season game the Raiders defensive end Justin Tuck saved the Raiders giving up a huge play late in the game by calling a timeout moments before the ball was snapped because Mack and Moore were still in the backfield celebrating their sack on the previous play.

It's a game that can be enjoyed on many levels, superficially due to the big hits and outrageous catches but, it requires great intelligence to understand deeply and play well.

In short, the more you watch, the more there is to enjoy. smile

Challo

10,168 posts

156 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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skahigh said:
One of the things I love about the NFL is the intricate nature of the rules and how having a mastery of them can make the difference between a good player and a great one.

e.g. Every week you see A-Rod get free yardage for his team by getting the ball snapped while the defense are making substitutions.

Last season in a late season game the Raiders defensive end Justin Tuck saved the Raiders giving up a huge play late in the game by calling a timeout moments before the ball was snapped because Mack and Moore were still in the backfield celebrating their sack on the previous play.

It's a game that can be enjoyed on many levels, superficially due to the big hits and outrageous catches but, it requires great intelligence to understand deeply and play well.

In short, the more you watch, the more there is to enjoy. smile
^^^Agree. There are alot of guys who are very good footballers, and have the physical side of the game nailed down, but to be a truley great player you need have brains as well. These are the guys that play 10+ season in the NFL and earn the serious money. Rogers is certainly a prime example of someone who is a couple of seconds in front of everyone else.

Thats why I love the sport and will always watch it over the premiership on a sunday. Every play is like a chess move with both teams trying to outwit the other and make the best play.

burritoNinja

690 posts

101 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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I never knew there were even as many fans of the NFL in the UK. We are an American family living in the UK and Gamepass is how we stay on top of it all, before we move back to the states in the coming years. We are Vikings supporters. Lived an hour outside Minneapolis, so boo to any cheese packers fans.

Can't wait for the Superbowl.

stephen300o

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15,464 posts

229 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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burritoNinja said:
I never knew there were even as many fans of the NFL in the UK. We are an American family living in the UK and Gamepass is how we stay on top of it all, before we move back to the states in the coming years. We are Vikings supporters. Lived an hour outside Minneapolis, so boo to any cheese packers fans.

Can't wait for the Superbowl.
Because it so unique a game I guess. I have a couple of friends out in Minesota, certainly warmer here.

burritoNinja

690 posts

101 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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stephen300o said:
Because it so unique a game I guess. I have a couple of friends out in Minesota, certainly warmer here.
Only in the winter lol.
Football is growing in the US. Lot of Chelsea, Man Utd fans starting up. NFL is great and hopefully it will continue to grow.
Meant to say, we use to go watch the Vikings train in Mankato. The size of the line backers,, like mountains.

lemmingjames

7,460 posts

205 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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It'll be a denver vs Carolina superb owl

Other people's predictions?