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Beardy10 said:
Whilst De Jong might say he didn't mean it it's the second players leg he's broken this year. The statistics don't lie....some players go through a season without even getting booked never mind breaking someone's leg. When you think about the number of tackles that happen every week and the rarity of broken legs the chances of the same player being involved in breaking two other players legs are millions to one.
Same thing with Shawcross he has a history having broken both Ramsey and Jeffer's legs but all we heard was "what a nice lad" he was. b
ks.
This is true, although to be fair to NDJ, i think he is being made the scapegoat for all bad tackles going on in football. Yes it was badly timed and probably a bit over zealous, but watch wolves every week, or any number of players who commit foul after foul and seemingly never get punished, like scholes for example. This year i have seen him commit several offences that were worthy of a red card, and all he gets is a warning, booking as a token gesture. The only reason NDJ is being slaughtered in the press is like i said earlier in this thread, marseille are a business like any other club, and if their player isnt playing, then they dont get paid, so they are just trying to claim the lost revenue like most businesses would. As a toon fan, yes i think the tackle was bad, but no worse than is commited every saturday in all the leagues, NDJ is just being singled outSame thing with Shawcross he has a history having broken both Ramsey and Jeffer's legs but all we heard was "what a nice lad" he was. b
ks. PD9 said:
This Nigel De Jong?
His timing for tackles is absolutely ridiculous. A horrific challenge, but not grounds for a court appearance. FA should sort this one out.
Look how mis-timed that is,talk about over zealous. The ball's not even reached Alonso yet His timing for tackles is absolutely ridiculous. A horrific challenge, but not grounds for a court appearance. FA should sort this one out.
Edited by sjc on Wednesday 13th October 21:04
sjc said:
Look how mis-timed that is,talk about over zealous. The ball's not even reached Alonso yet
I honestly don't know how he made it into the WC Final Team. He's more suited to Scottish Division 2 football where a fly kick is usually followed through by an elbow, and defenders are actually out to break your legs
. Personally, I think his days within the cream are numbered. It's too much of a liberty in todays game to go down to ten men in the top flight and De Jong looks tragic in every tackle he attempts to go into on the park.
PD9 said:
sjc said:
Look how mis-timed that is,talk about over zealous. The ball's not even reached Alonso yet
I honestly don't know how he made it into the WC Final Team. He's more suited to Scottish Division 2 football where a fly kick is usually followed through by an elbow, and defenders are actually out to break your legs
. Personally, I think his days within the cream are numbered. It's too much of a liberty in todays game to go down to ten men in the top flight and De Jong looks tragic in every tackle he attempts to go into on the park.
http://dailymail.touch-line.com/stats/?Lang=0&...
you get a lollipop for the right answer. (hint, it's nothing to do with protection from anyone)
Edited by tamore on Thursday 14th October 08:23
anonymous said:
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in the modern game, as a manager i would want all my midfielders to be picking up 12 yellows in a season. anything less would suggest they aren't doing their job, especially defensive minded guys.you get a yellow card for kicking the ball away or taking your shirt off these days!
It was reckless and certainly unnecessary in following through with his other leg onto the standing leg.You know what you're aiming to do with that sort of tackle, in the same way Vinnie Jones knew what he was doing to Gary Stevens on the touchline.De Jong's not the only one, but he's flavour of the month for stick after the WC ( whilst watching it with an ex-pro we both shouted " that's a straight red" immediately).Quite possibly if he'd been duly punished for that,there wouldn't be quite the witchhunt for him at the moment.I'm all for blood and guts football,and I don't partiularly like the way the game is going but there's certain things that have no place on the field.De Jong would have loved the Chelsea/Leeds Cup final from early seventies!
Cowardly challenges designed to injur the other player. There is no defence to it anyone who has played football knows exactly what you can and can't do. Always the "hard" men who go flying into challenges from behind or over the top, fking limp cowards the lot of them.
He (and others) should be banned for a few games, if a player has a poor diciplinary and then goes looking for another club wanting £100k a week the other club will then say "but you will not be available for 7 of those weekes you durty bugger here we'll offer you £20k".
Refs should be stronger and consistent throughout the game, send the hackers off, + book the little scrotey team mates who then harrass the ref, send the managers off too, get the game cleaner, get some more respect for the game.
Dirty unskillfull teams will end up with 9 players a game and eventually at the bottom of the league where they belong.
king limp cowards the lot of them.He (and others) should be banned for a few games, if a player has a poor diciplinary and then goes looking for another club wanting £100k a week the other club will then say "but you will not be available for 7 of those weekes you durty bugger here we'll offer you £20k".
Refs should be stronger and consistent throughout the game, send the hackers off, + book the little scrotey team mates who then harrass the ref, send the managers off too, get the game cleaner, get some more respect for the game.
Dirty unskillfull teams will end up with 9 players a game and eventually at the bottom of the league where they belong.
Don't see any of this in rugby. There might be fisty cuffs on the pitch from time to time but how often at club or international level do you see players talking back to the referee or complaing when they get a yellow or red card.
Maybe yellow cards in football need more punishment like the player has to leave the field for 10mins. That would surely mean less of them think about a wild chop at someone. It'll never happen but I think it'd help clean the game up as there'd be more peer pressure to avoid a booking rather than get one to save a 1 on 1 situation for example.
Maybe yellow cards in football need more punishment like the player has to leave the field for 10mins. That would surely mean less of them think about a wild chop at someone. It'll never happen but I think it'd help clean the game up as there'd be more peer pressure to avoid a booking rather than get one to save a 1 on 1 situation for example.
wolves_wanderer said:
snowy slopes said:
wolves must owe about half a billion quid for the amount of over the top tackles that carl henry has produced this year.
One bad tackle rightly punished with a red card, the rest hardly bear comparison to De Jong's effort
snowy slopes said:
wolves_wanderer said:
snowy slopes said:
wolves must owe about half a billion quid for the amount of over the top tackles that carl henry has produced this year.
One bad tackle rightly punished with a red card, the rest hardly bear comparison to De Jong's effortNot that I disagree with your point.
wolves_wanderer said:
snowy slopes said:
wolves_wanderer said:
snowy slopes said:
wolves must owe about half a billion quid for the amount of over the top tackles that carl henry has produced this year.
One bad tackle rightly punished with a red card, the rest hardly bear comparison to De Jong's effortNot that I disagree with your point.
The problem with De Jong is that it is hard to conclusively say he is doing it on purpose apart from the Alonso challenge which was like something out of UFC!
Take Ben Thatcher for an example of a violent player, he should have gone down for the challenge he made on that Pompey player and it was easy to tell that he was a vicious little st that should not have been allowed to play football. De Jong, on the other hand and all IMO, is just a bit too enthusiastic at times.
Take Ben Thatcher for an example of a violent player, he should have gone down for the challenge he made on that Pompey player and it was easy to tell that he was a vicious little s
t that should not have been allowed to play football. De Jong, on the other hand and all IMO, is just a bit too enthusiastic at times. 
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