The difference between English rugby players and footballers
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okgo said:
The money didn't come first. The popularity came first, then the money.
But yes, although Ronaldo etc go down a lot they're built a lot different to rugby players, and they don't need to be built to take hits. Ronaldo is one of the more muscular fottballers too.
Backs aren't built like rugby players. We were not all fat blokes with no forehads you know. Some of us were quite pretty - until a fat bloke with no forehead tackled us.But yes, although Ronaldo etc go down a lot they're built a lot different to rugby players, and they don't need to be built to take hits. Ronaldo is one of the more muscular fottballers too.
Backs run you know. Also in rugby you can trip a player.
Imagine you are running flat out (I'll have to imagine that as well it has to be admitted) and 24-stone of prop tackles you. The phrase 'didn't know what hit him' is so often true.
Today their #4 didn't like a perfectly legal tackle that our #10 got him with. Our 10 backed away, lining up for the feed from our 9 (not sure where our 8 was). Their #4 comes through the line and throws a wild punch (a bit of a handbag job despite the chap's size) at our 10 who tried to stand his ground, despite the disparity in weight. Their #4 then aims a cross between a kick and a knee in the groin at our 10 who moved inside the kick/knee and whatever it was hit him hit on the thigh/hip area. Our 10 then grabs the shirt of their 4 and a face off happens. A few choice words are exchanged and their 4 headbuts our 10 on the nose. Not much of a contact, but the attempt was quite serious.
Our 10, probably knowing that the headbut was viewed by both the ref and the linesman, puts one hand up and the other on his nose.
Referee and linesman confer and our 10 is yellow carded, although the reason is not yet known, and their #6 is red carded, the reason being mistaken identity we believe. No back-chat from either player but their coach well over-reacted, running down the pitch and screaming at the ref. Very unlike what happens normally at my club and he was roundly booed.
Footballers would have misbehaved somewhat differently I believe.
I'm not suggesting that this makes rugby a better game or ruby players more sensible but it does show what can be done to reinforce the authority of the ref. Argue with the ref and you get aggro. You soon learn.
Our 10, probably knowing that the headbut was viewed by both the ref and the linesman, puts one hand up and the other on his nose.
Referee and linesman confer and our 10 is yellow carded, although the reason is not yet known, and their #6 is red carded, the reason being mistaken identity we believe. No back-chat from either player but their coach well over-reacted, running down the pitch and screaming at the ref. Very unlike what happens normally at my club and he was roundly booed.
Footballers would have misbehaved somewhat differently I believe.
I'm not suggesting that this makes rugby a better game or ruby players more sensible but it does show what can be done to reinforce the authority of the ref. Argue with the ref and you get aggro. You soon learn.
goldblum said:
Footballers in the main are mouthy spoilt gobs
tes.Rugby players let their game do the talking.
In the main? There may be a few gobby ones, but really, in the main? Please, evidence to back this up please? Clearly we'll need something for the vast majority of footballer to back this claim up, so we'll see you in a few hours. tes.Rugby players let their game do the talking.Godzuki said:
goldblum said:
Footballers in the main are mouthy spoilt gobstes.Rugby players let their game do the talking.
In the main? There may be a few gobby ones, but really, in the main? Please, evidence to back this up please? Clearly we'll need something for the vast majority of footballer to back this claim up, so we'll see you in a few hours. tes.Rugby players let their game do the talking.The comment above is an opinion,based on my experiences of playing both.
Godzuki said:
In the main? There may be a few gobby ones, but really, in the main? Please, evidence to back this up please? Clearly we'll need something for the vast majority of footballer to back this claim up, so we'll see you in a few hours.
what is it with you & your "evidence" to back things up! 
boobles said:
what is it with you & your "evidence" to back things up! 
If the chap had said, "well, the footy player I knew were tts", then fair enough, but sweeping statements like that are just cobblers. Godzuki said:
I don't know... I'm the kind of chap who can't abide fanciful claims, or statements that are just untrue. hence, evidence required. If the chap had said, "well, the footy player I knew were tts", then fair enough, but sweeping statements like that are just cobblers.
Do you have any evidence to your claims then? If the chap had said, "well, the footy player I knew were tts", then fair enough, but sweeping statements like that are just cobblers. 
boobles said:
Do you have any evidence to your claims then?
What claims? I haven't made any. Hence me asking who they are. After all, we all read about footballers, but it's a small handful that get in the papers. You never hear of a Wolves defender, or an Everton goalkeepr, or whatever being gobby. Hence, I ask him to back it up. he than changes it to 'the ones I know"... Northampton and England full-back Ben Foden was arrested by police following a row with a taxi driver after a night out with friends celebrating his club’s Aviva Premiership victory over Wasps on Sunday, Telegraph Sport can reveal.
Foden who scored a try in Northampton’s impressive 39-3 victory at Franklin’s Gardens, was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage at 3.30am on Monday morning. He and a friend, 23, who is not thought to be a professional rugby player, spent Monday morning in police cells before being released on bail in the afternoon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
Foden who scored a try in Northampton’s impressive 39-3 victory at Franklin’s Gardens, was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage at 3.30am on Monday morning. He and a friend, 23, who is not thought to be a professional rugby player, spent Monday morning in police cells before being released on bail in the afternoon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
Fittster said:
Northampton and England full-back Ben Foden was arrested by police following a row with a taxi driver after a night out with friends celebrating his club’s Aviva Premiership victory over Wasps on Sunday, Telegraph Sport can reveal.
Foden who scored a try in Northampton’s impressive 39-3 victory at Franklin’s Gardens, was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage at 3.30am on Monday morning. He and a friend, 23, who is not thought to be a professional rugby player, spent Monday morning in police cells before being released on bail in the afternoon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
Ah, but it's good spirited high jinks when it's a rugger player.Foden who scored a try in Northampton’s impressive 39-3 victory at Franklin’s Gardens, was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage at 3.30am on Monday morning. He and a friend, 23, who is not thought to be a professional rugby player, spent Monday morning in police cells before being released on bail in the afternoon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
A footballer would more likely be labelled scum.
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