The difference between English rugby players and footballers

The difference between English rugby players and footballers

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XG332

3,927 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Also look at the supporters.
Footballs the crowds are kept separate and often made to leave the ground at different times to avoid fights.

In football everybody usually sits together and has a good time.
hell, when i last went to twickenham. A load of the players came to the Guinness bar for a pint after the game.

Godzuki

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Wouldn't it be better to just drag up one of the other "isn't rugby so terribly superior that the other popular sport" threads? It's all getting terribly predictable.

Godzuki

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Godzuki said:
Wouldn't it be better to just drag up one of the other "isn't rugby so terribly superior that the other popular sport" threads? It's all getting terribly predictable.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/sep/28/halifax-featherstone-crowd-trouble

Digger

14,696 posts

192 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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During one of the Six Nations matches yesterday, did I hear one of the players saying "Yes Sir" to the referee? Some of the Premiership footballers seemingly expect similar respect from the ref.

Godzuki

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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FA refs don't have mics like they do in rugby. Still, as long as you can lipread for every player your good to go.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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XG332 said:
Also look at the supporters.
Footballs the crowds are kept separate and often made to leave the ground at different times to avoid fights.

In football everybody usually sits together and has a good time.
hell, when i last went to twickenham. A load of the players came to the Guinness bar for a pint after the game.
thats because you can't ruck in a Barbour jacket

Mr Jenks

1,204 posts

266 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Arthur Jackson said:
Threads that generalise like this aren't worth the effort, in my opinion,
So why bother to respond ?

Arthur Jackson said:
There are PLENTY of top lads playing Premiership football.
Sadly though, the vast majority of those top blokes dont qualify to play for England. IMHO that may be a lot of the problem with devalueing the pride of rising to the top of their game and being selected to play for the national team, lack of competition.
Personally I watch far more football than rugby but I really dont understand why only a few at Wembley, or wherever they may be, can bring themselves to mutter the words of the national anthem, while the rugger boys ALL sing their hearts out.

escort90

3,045 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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XG332 said:
Also look at the supporters.
Footballs the crowds are kept separate and often made to leave the ground at different times to avoid fights.

In football everybody usually sits together and has a good time.
hell, when i last went to twickenham. A load of the players came to the Guinness bar for a pint after the game.
id rather the supporters where seperated, actually creates a decent atmosphere

Godzuki

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Mr Jenks said:
Sadly though, the vast majority of those top blokes dont qualify to play for England. IMHO that may be a lot of the problem with devalueing the pride of rising to the top of their game and being selected to play for the national team, lack of competition.
Personally I watch far more football than rugby but I really dont understand why only a few at Wembley, or wherever they may be, can bring themselves to mutter the words of the national anthem, while the rugger boys ALL sing their hearts out.
You're going to have to show that the English boys don't have pride. As it stands that is just your opinion with nothing really to back it up. Not singing the national anthem does not mean you have no pride.

XG332

3,927 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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escort90 said:
id rather the supporters where seperated, actually creates a decent atmosphere
in what way

ClintonB

4,721 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Godzuki said:
Errr pretty much any Old Firm game (or with an international flavour, the Superclásico as an easy example).

Millwall vs just about anyone.

Inter fans assessing the flight worthiness of a scooter.

and so on with an absolute host of examples - Should we get Danny Dyer to host?


Rugby of either persuasion isn't quite 100% squeaky but one isolated example is hardly a deal breaker.


Mr Jenks

1,204 posts

266 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Godzuki said:
Mr Jenks said:
Sadly though, the vast majority of those top blokes dont qualify to play for England. IMHO that may be a lot of the problem with devalueing the pride of rising to the top of their game and being selected to play for the national team, lack of competition.
Personally I watch far more football than rugby but I really dont understand why only a few at Wembley, or wherever they may be, can bring themselves to mutter the words of the national anthem, while the rugger boys ALL sing their hearts out.
You're going to have to show that the English boys don't have pride. As it stands that is just your opinion with nothing really to back it up. Not singing the national anthem does not mean you have no pride.
Hello, is that Fabio ? Its xxxx here, sorry I cant make the game next week, I broke my leg yesterday. I reckon I`ll be fit to play against xxxx in the prem the following week though. Must go, my flight to Dubai`s just been called. Bye.



Godzuki

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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ClintonB said:
Errr pretty much any Old Firm game (or with an international flavour, the Superclásico as an easy example).

Millwall vs just about anyone.

Inter fans assessing the flight worthiness of a scooter.

and so on with an absolute host of examples - Should we get Danny Dyer to host?


Rugby of either persuasion isn't quite 100% squeaky but one isolated example is hardly a deal breaker.
I know it isn't, and no-one is saying football has not has it's fair share of complete twerps, but the usual tarring and feathering that PH manages to do well is so dull and predictable. I think it says more about the people, than the sports to be honest.

As for "I broke my leg...", please, show me where someone said that, or is that you exaggerating again?

ClintonB

4,721 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Godzuki said:
FA refs don't have mics like they do in rugby. Still, as long as you can lipread for every player your good to go.
Good job really, given the amount of time Tabloid Wayne and his chums spend chasing the ref to give him the lesson that he's foolishly been avoiding for some time in directional usage of f's and c's.

Rugby players (of both persuasions) have used industrial language in the presence of refs (it was once broadcast live on Grandstand on Saturday afternoon - amusing at the time) but it isn't a vitriolic outburst in the direction of the whistle chap.


Godzuki

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Well, whatever makes you feel better. Still not sure how that equates to no pride?

XG332

3,927 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Godzuki said:
Well, whatever makes you feel better. Still not sure how that equates to no pride?
You are arguing with yourself.

Godzuki

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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XG332 said:
You are arguing with yourself.
Nope... Several posters on this thread, in case you hadn't noticed.

ClintonB

4,721 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Godzuki said:
I know it isn't, and no-one is saying football has not has it's fair share of complete twerps, but the usual tarring and feathering that PH manages to do well is so dull and predictable. I think it says more about the people, than the sports to be honest.

As for "I broke my leg...", please, show me where someone said that, or is that you exaggerating again?
The not having exactly the same opinion as me, so I'll blame it on moral & social disintegration, along with rank stupidity and chavvy retardedness is really just as dull and predictable TBH.


Most, if not all sports would appear to be having an increasing problem with participants taking any decision against them as being an affront to their sexuality, religion, family and so on. I actually watched the Ireland v England game last night and thought there was rather more questioning & the like than used to be the case. Same goes for Northern Monkey rugby, cricket and so on. However, fine, upstanding individuals such as R-Wayne, Ashley, EBJT really are the shining stars on that front.


As for the broke my leg issue, obviously not familiar with figurative speech (or just being deliberately obtuse for whatever reason). Anyhow, Ryan Giggs would probably be a decent (but far from lonely) example of the malaise. I wonder how many of his 62 caps over nigh on 20 years were gained playing in friendlies, especially mid-week ones?

MiniMan64

16,936 posts

191 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Beardy10 said:
Ian Lancs said:
The main reason for the lack of crap given to the ref is the threat of advancing the penalty 10m for backchat. Something you learn very quickly not to do! Not sure I can imagine the average footballer (round ball) understanding that - I reckon you'd probably march the freekick the length of the pitch!
There wasn't really a problem with backchat before that rule was introduced...certainly nothing like we see in football.
The fact that the refs are all miked up in rugby probably helps too, I would LOVE that to be brought into football so we could all hear the delightful langauge our footballers use.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Godzuki said:
Godzuki said:
Wouldn't it be better to just drag up one of the other "isn't rugby so terribly superior that the other popular sport" threads? It's all getting terribly predictable.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/sep/28/halifax-featherstone-crowd-trouble
but that's league , which is a different class of game both on and off t'field