Car keyed at FOS parking
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I attended on the Friday and Saturday.
I had a great time and did comment to a friend that we did not see many chavs and a lot of people were very well dressed. As soon as I said that I did see some taps aff though. Plus a couple of young girls posing in the supercar car park and some quite drunk groups. I arrived around 10am both days and my favourite time was after 6 when most people have left and you get a proper chance to see the cars without the crowds.
I wonder if someone had had some road rage on the way to the show and someone was having revenge on the owner. Having had a car keyed myself in the past I would be totally gutted to find that after having a great day at the event.
I had a great time and did comment to a friend that we did not see many chavs and a lot of people were very well dressed. As soon as I said that I did see some taps aff though. Plus a couple of young girls posing in the supercar car park and some quite drunk groups. I arrived around 10am both days and my favourite time was after 6 when most people have left and you get a proper chance to see the cars without the crowds.
I wonder if someone had had some road rage on the way to the show and someone was having revenge on the owner. Having had a car keyed myself in the past I would be totally gutted to find that after having a great day at the event.
I did see one bit of rage at the end. As people were converging on exits and getting impatient, a yellow/gold Renault I think, barged around everyone to the front. Someone to his credit got out and had it out with the driver leading to what looked like the marshal blocking the car from moving to which he eventually buggered off to push in elsewhere.
And of course the autograph runners who work for the dealers, who push and shove people aside to get their 15 photos signed for profit. Nothing that can be done about that of course, its a consequence of the great access to the drivers and riders.
OH! And parents who shove their kids in as if its alright to do so! Several times either looking at cars, drivers or by the hillclimb I saw parents just push their kids into a crowd as if the kid had a right without asking if it was ok. If you ask people of course theyll let your child to the front so they can see the track or meet someone, but one lady by a scrum around Stirling Moss just pushed the kid in (his cap was being knocked off it was that tight!) and started hitting people on the back and demanding "let my kid in". When one lady finally said "Ive been waiting a long time too" and refused to budge the woman acted as if it was the wosrt thing in the world and her and her husband started moaning! What happened to manners?!
And of course the autograph runners who work for the dealers, who push and shove people aside to get their 15 photos signed for profit. Nothing that can be done about that of course, its a consequence of the great access to the drivers and riders.
OH! And parents who shove their kids in as if its alright to do so! Several times either looking at cars, drivers or by the hillclimb I saw parents just push their kids into a crowd as if the kid had a right without asking if it was ok. If you ask people of course theyll let your child to the front so they can see the track or meet someone, but one lady by a scrum around Stirling Moss just pushed the kid in (his cap was being knocked off it was that tight!) and started hitting people on the back and demanding "let my kid in". When one lady finally said "Ive been waiting a long time too" and refused to budge the woman acted as if it was the wosrt thing in the world and her and her husband started moaning! What happened to manners?!
Never been to FOS before, always clashed with kids footie tournaments, World superbikes or other events, so went as a first timer.
was surprised by the amount of alcohol being drunk pre 8am, the amount of smokers in non smoking places, but saddest/funniest was the young kids in the supercar paddock ignoring the exotica to drool over the Focus ST..... nothing against the ST, but it made me chuckle with all the super expensive cars around it that a small group were attracted to it with such obvious excitement was amusing.
was surprised by the amount of alcohol being drunk pre 8am, the amount of smokers in non smoking places, but saddest/funniest was the young kids in the supercar paddock ignoring the exotica to drool over the Focus ST..... nothing against the ST, but it made me chuckle with all the super expensive cars around it that a small group were attracted to it with such obvious excitement was amusing.
At our stand we had a couple of incidents over the 4 days out of perhaps 30-50,000 people who came through. Not bad odds really, far better than you'd expect of the wider general public, but still unacceptable.
The one chap who very nearly got quite badly hurt was using a Swiss Army knife to (I assume) try and disconnect part of the Metro 6R4's engine and take it away with him. Stupid
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The one really tricky part for us (and I assume a huge number of exhibitors) was people just assuming the could help themselves to anything they wanted. We had some of the Mission Motorsport merchandise on a big table for sale to raise funds (stickers, helmet stickers, wrist bands, cups etc) and people would simply start filling their bags with the stuff. In those situations it is hard to know how to react as the big part of me thinks "thieving tt, lets batter him round the back" but there is always the small chance that they're just harmless morons who don't think they're doing anything wrong.
All par for the course though at an event like that.
The one chap who very nearly got quite badly hurt was using a Swiss Army knife to (I assume) try and disconnect part of the Metro 6R4's engine and take it away with him. Stupid
.The one really tricky part for us (and I assume a huge number of exhibitors) was people just assuming the could help themselves to anything they wanted. We had some of the Mission Motorsport merchandise on a big table for sale to raise funds (stickers, helmet stickers, wrist bands, cups etc) and people would simply start filling their bags with the stuff. In those situations it is hard to know how to react as the big part of me thinks "thieving t
t, lets batter him round the back" but there is always the small chance that they're just harmless morons who don't think they're doing anything wrong.All par for the course though at an event like that.
m4tti said:
The number of individuals wandering around without a top on has gone up annually.
I think it could be time to strictly enforce a dress code to wheedle some of it out. No trainers or sports wear. Men in shirts etc. Have people on the gate enforcing it.
It's generally on a hot day and involves an awful lot of walking if you go there for the cars. It's trainers or walking boots for me, I'm afraid, and sensible clothing for the weather.I think it could be time to strictly enforce a dress code to wheedle some of it out. No trainers or sports wear. Men in shirts etc. Have people on the gate enforcing it.
Why not go the revival instead, if dress code bothers you?
mistakenplane said:
And of course the autograph runners who work for the dealers, who push and shove people aside to get their 15 photos signed for profit. Nothing that can be done about that of course, its a consequence of the great access to the drivers and riders.
I was quite shocked by this I came out from looking at a tag watch to be greeted by lots of people running at me with photos, so I got my pen out to sign them and they ran straight past. I noticed the same people sat around all weekend around the same area and thought what a waste of a day. For me it's all about the cars. I'm surprised drivers don't sign things with the persons name to stop this, I know I always put "To xxxxxxx, happy birthday, Robin just so they can't sell their birthday card on.
ecsrobin said:
I was quite shocked by this I came out from looking at a tag watch to be greeted by lots of people running at me with photos, so I got my pen out to sign them and they ran straight past. I noticed the same people sat around all weekend around the same area and thought what a waste of a day. For me it's all about the cars.
I'm surprised drivers don't sign things with the persons name to stop this, I know I always put "To xxxxxxx, happy birthday, Robin just so they can't sell their birthday card on.
the worst example i saw of a-hole autograph hunters was when Sir Stirling was walking down the drivers club walkway.. he was really struggling walking and his wife was helping him.. as soon as he got into the open, some scumbag hunter was like gollum... "hehe.. must get the autograph..etc.. rushing around grabbing his stuff for signing" give the guy a break.. ffs.. I'm surprised drivers don't sign things with the persons name to stop this, I know I always put "To xxxxxxx, happy birthday, Robin just so they can't sell their birthday card on.
Lynchie999 said:
...when Sir Stirling was walking down the drivers club walkway.. he was really struggling walking and his wife was helping him...
Aside from the fact that the autograph twots should be strung up from a tree - isn't the transformation amazing when he sits in a car? Him in the Merc on the hill was a proper thing to see.otolith said:
Why not go the revival instead, if dress code bothers you?
I don't think it's so much a "dress code" but my wife did comment that she doesn't really want to be rubbing shoulders with blokes with beer bellies, tattoos and sweaty hairy chests at a motoring event. Elsewhere maybe, I don't know, but not there 
I didn't see much untoward. We've had access to one of the rally paddock car park's for the past 2 years, but didn't use it last year, but had no real problems with car parking. We only used the exhibitors bit this year to avoid the queues in and out. I guess at the end of the day it's just a big supermarket car park - some (like me) go out of my way NOT to scrap someone elses pride and joy, and some couldn't give a stuff.
Didn't see much bad behaviour in the event either - although the mad rush from some McLaren presentation to see Jenson walking up the red carpet was embarassing - kids literally went flying as middle-aged blokes chased after him.
Didn't see much bad behaviour in the event either - although the mad rush from some McLaren presentation to see Jenson walking up the red carpet was embarassing - kids literally went flying as middle-aged blokes chased after him.
Surprised to read of so many negative experiences.
It was my first time there (Saturday), and I repeatedly mentioned how serene and well-behaved the crowds were. Had no issues at all, on the contrary, everyone I met or bumped into was charming and polite.
I was at Le Mans 2 weeks ago, so maybe that truly hideous voyage into the murky depths of foul "motoring fans" has clouded my judgement, but I doubt it...
It was my first time there (Saturday), and I repeatedly mentioned how serene and well-behaved the crowds were. Had no issues at all, on the contrary, everyone I met or bumped into was charming and polite.
I was at Le Mans 2 weeks ago, so maybe that truly hideous voyage into the murky depths of foul "motoring fans" has clouded my judgement, but I doubt it...
benjj said:
At our stand we had a couple of incidents over the 4 days out of perhaps 30-50,000 people who came through. Not bad odds really, far better than you'd expect of the wider general public, but still unacceptable.
The one chap who very nearly got quite badly hurt was using a Swiss Army knife to (I assume) try and disconnect part of the Metro 6R4's engine and take it away with him. Stupid.
The one really tricky part for us (and I assume a huge number of exhibitors) was people just assuming the could help themselves to anything they wanted. We had some of the Mission Motorsport merchandise on a big table for sale to raise funds (stickers, helmet stickers, wrist bands, cups etc) and people would simply start filling their bags with the stuff. In those situations it is hard to know how to react as the big part of me thinks "thieving tt, lets batter him round the back" but there is always the small chance that they're just harmless morons who don't think they're doing anything wrong.
All par for the course though at an event like that.
WTF?!The one chap who very nearly got quite badly hurt was using a Swiss Army knife to (I assume) try and disconnect part of the Metro 6R4's engine and take it away with him. Stupid
.The one really tricky part for us (and I assume a huge number of exhibitors) was people just assuming the could help themselves to anything they wanted. We had some of the Mission Motorsport merchandise on a big table for sale to raise funds (stickers, helmet stickers, wrist bands, cups etc) and people would simply start filling their bags with the stuff. In those situations it is hard to know how to react as the big part of me thinks "thieving t
t, lets batter him round the back" but there is always the small chance that they're just harmless morons who don't think they're doing anything wrong.All par for the course though at an event like that.
How did he react when you caught him trying to nick part of the 6R4?
otolith said:
m4tti said:
The number of individuals wandering around without a top on has gone up annually.
I think it could be time to strictly enforce a dress code to wheedle some of it out. No trainers or sports wear. Men in shirts etc. Have people on the gate enforcing it.
It's generally on a hot day and involves an awful lot of walking if you go there for the cars. It's trainers or walking boots for me, I'm afraid, and sensible clothing for the weather.I think it could be time to strictly enforce a dress code to wheedle some of it out. No trainers or sports wear. Men in shirts etc. Have people on the gate enforcing it.
Why not go the revival instead, if dress code bothers you?
With the weather I don't really have an issue with people with their shirts off if they're sat by the side of the track. We don't have enough sun so make the most of it. Not that I would. As long as the shirts back on for walking round. What I do have a problem with is no females partaking in these shirtless activities....
monamimate said:
Surprised to read of so many negative experiences.
It was my first time there (Saturday), and I repeatedly mentioned how serene and well-behaved the crowds were. Had no issues at all, on the contrary, everyone I met or bumped into was charming and polite.
I was at Le Mans 2 weeks ago, so maybe that truly hideous voyage into the murky depths of foul "motoring fans" has clouded my judgement, but I doubt it...
I think it's a question of context.It was my first time there (Saturday), and I repeatedly mentioned how serene and well-behaved the crowds were. Had no issues at all, on the contrary, everyone I met or bumped into was charming and polite.
I was at Le Mans 2 weeks ago, so maybe that truly hideous voyage into the murky depths of foul "motoring fans" has clouded my judgement, but I doubt it...
For you, first time at FoS, it'll have been nicer than other events you might've experienced and because you've no previous Goodwood to compare it to, it'll have gone very well. The longer you've been attending, the more 'downhill' you'll think the crowds have gone, I reckon.
Lot's more 'stuff' goes on inside the event now. Junior FoS, the GAS arena, and the cricket pitch car display are all 'new' to me, as I remember just lying in the sun on the cricket pitch, eating, drinking, and listening to the bands. Then they made it even better with the addition of a big screen, so you could chill out while still watching the cars on the hill. Now, the cricket pitch is chockers, and the number of quiet places you can nip off to, and simply take stock are fewer and further between. Add in the increase in crowd size, and the wider publicity prior to the event, and you inevitably end up sharing your day with people you'd happily move house to avoid.
In the 'old days' boisterous behaviour would be limited to a few posh boys doing donuts in the (grass
) car park in a couple of TVRs, after a nice day out. Now it's AM drinking, criminal damage and general ignorance. Despite the fact that these idiots are in a very small minority, you've only got to cross paths with one of them for it to skew your memory of the day.Having said all that, though, my other annual indulgence is Reading Festival, and the crowd behaviour at Goodwood is a model of perfect etiquette by comparison. At least I've never felt it necessary at Goodwood to floor an imbecile for kicking my wife repeatedly to try to make her give up her place at the front of the crowd rail. (I got a thank you from the couple beside her for that too, as he'd been kicking that girl too). I can't see stuff like that happening at Goodwood anytime soon, as the crowd generally polices itself, but if stuff kicked off, there aren't enough security or stewards to deal with it, like there are at music festivals. Which worries me, as the crowd becomes ever less 'genteel' in it's make up.
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