Goodwood Festival - previous shootout winners

[Gc285]

Id like to see a Gould take on the hill again.

[coppice]

There are plenty of opportunities to see Goulds, Forces etc all over the UK in the hillclimb championship . What is extraordinary is that so few people take that opportunity but thousands watch cars ascend a mediocre hill like Goodwood . Must be the chance of seeing a sleb drive ...

I am being slightly unfair as FoS does attract some extraordinary machinery but I do wonder about some people -not on PH obviously _ who appear to think that hillclimbs begin and end at FoS and that the Revival is the only show in town for historics. Must be the panto aspect, all that dressing up ....

[robstopper]

Goodwood isn't truly a hillclimb event as such, its about far more than that. I've been 6 or 7 times, and have still never made it to see everything on offer, from the style et luxe, the rally stage, top paddock, supercar paddock, trade show, etc etc. The timed hillclimb section is actually a pretty small segment in comparison.

[Vocal Minority]

coppice said:

There are plenty of opportunities to see Goulds, Forces etc all over the UK in the hillclimb championship . What is extraordinary is that so few people take that opportunity but thousands watch cars ascend a mediocre hill like Goodwood . Must be the chance of seeing a sleb drive ...

I am being slightly unfair as FoS does attract some extraordinary machinery but I do wonder about some people -not on PH obviously _ who appear to think that hillclimbs begin and end at FoS and that the Revival is the only show in town for historics. Must be the panto aspect, all that dressing up ....

It's a combination of mass media and sports fans who like a dabble.

It's sort of an extension of fat man in the pub won't watch rugby other than the 6 nations, because anything except the very top strata is somehow beneath them.

Goodwood is famous - Harewood is not!

[ecsrobin]

Hillclimb isn’t the greatest of sports to watch if you’re a spectator, what sets Goodwood apart is putting so many aspects of a motoring event in one place, motorshow, concours, hill climb, rally stage, off roaring and stunt riding. Nowhere else could you see all that in a day.

[coppice]

I don't easily tire of watching a Gould pull 140mph up a narrow track a few feet away . Must be something wrong with me......

[Vocal Minority]

There is mate - for shame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afrQqFs-kRo

This is boring (or sped up if you have no imagination)

[robstopper]

Breaking news.....

2018 - Romain Dumas, Volkswagen IDR Pikes Peak, 43.86s (went 43.05 in qualifying!)
2017 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR12D, 46.13s
2016 - Olly Clark, Subaru Impreza "Gobstopper II", 46.23s
2015 - Olly Clark, Subaru Impreza "Gobstopper II", 44.91s
2014 - Sebastien Loeb, Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak, 44.6s
2013 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR8/9, 45.95s
2012 - Anthony Reid, Chevron GR8 GT3, 46.46s
2011 - Dan Collins, Lotus Cosworth 88, 48.52s
2010 - Roger Wills, Williams Cosworth FW05, 47.15s
2009 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR8/9, 44.4s
2008 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR8/9, 44.19s
2007 - Anthony Reid, Nissan 350Z GT500, 53.78s (wet)
2006 - Richard Lyons, Nissan 350Z GT500, 49.51s
2005 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR12, 47.96s
2004 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR12, 49.26s
2003 - Graeme Wight, Gould GR51, 42.9s
2002 - Rod Millen, Toyota Celica Pikes Peak, 47.4s
2001 - David Franklin, Ferrari 712, 48.26s
2000 - Martin Stretton, Tyrrell P34, 45.05s
1999 - Nick Heidfeld, McLaren MP4/13, 41.6s (still quickest outright)
1998 - Nick Heidfeld, McLaren MP4/12, 48.30s
1997 - Nick Heidfeld, McLaren MP4/11B, 47.3s
1996 - Jonathan Palmer, Williams FW07B, 45.0s
1995 - Jonathan Palmer, Williams FW08B, 46.06s
1994 - Martin Brundle, McLaren MP4/9, 47.80s
1993 - Willie Green, Surtees Cosworth TS20 56.3s

[RB Will]

Need to send that 919 up there

[Welshbeef]

RB Will said:

Need to send that 919 up there

Why didn’t it go up? This was the Porsche celebration year too? Strange

[confucuis]

Welshbeef said:

RB Will said:

Need to send that 919 up there

Why didn’t it go up? This was the Porsche celebration year too? Strange

I have a feeling Volkswagen did not want anything challenging it's electric car and definitely not a challenge coming from in house!

[Kraken]

Porsche GB asked them to do it but they declined saying it wasn't what the 919 tribute was about. All they wanted to do with it was show it was faster than an F1 car and break the Nordschleife record.

I doubt VW would have been bothered if it had been there. After all they are two totally different cars. The VW has smashed the electric record and would go a lot faster with changes to do such a short run.

[selym]

Kraken said:

Porsche GB asked them to do it but they declined saying it wasn't what the 919 tribute was about. All they wanted to do with it was show it was faster than an F1 car and break the Nordschleife record.

I doubt VW would have been bothered if it had been there. After all they are two totally different cars. The VW has smashed the electric record and would go a lot faster with changes to do such a short run.

Why didn't they make those changes? If they could go a lot faster then Heidfeld's time could have been smashed - unlikely to be vested for some time. Now THAT would have been an achievement.

[robstopper]

I don't actually think GRRC actually want the record to be broken, that's why the modern F1 cars were banned from doing timed runs in 1999 (iirc) - it's a normal piece of tarmac, with a crown on it, and spectators close-by behind straw bales. They don't want it turning in to an arms race to go quicker and quicker to break the record each year. They're happy with the time as it is, it's not about going quicker each year, it's just who out of the invited participants is quickest in each years' shootout.

I think if the times continued to get quicker and quicker, then you'd need to increase run-offs, barriers, road surface etc, which would change the complexion of the event and take away much of its charm.

[Eric Mc]

robstopper said:

I don't actually think GRRC actually want the record to be broken, that's why the modern F1 cars were banned from doing timed runs in 1999 (iirc) - it's a normal piece of tarmac, with a crown on it, and spectators close-by behind straw bales. They don't want it turning in to an arms race to go quicker and quicker to break the record each year. They're happy with the time as it is, it's not about going quicker each year, it's just who out of the invited participants is quickest in each years' shootout.

I think if the times continued to get quicker and quicker, then you'd need to increase run-offs, barriers, road surface etc, which would change the complexion of the event and take away much of its charm.

The ban came in from 2001 on. It was as a result of the accident that claimed the life of John Dawson-Damer and injured a marshal which happened at the 2000 FOS.

[chunder27]

They also banned all the top British hillclimb guys from going, after Wighty got close one year.

I reckon if Merli or Faggioli entered they would beat the record.

Interestingly that BMW 3 series with the Judd engine was a car I though had disappeared, driven in the past by Georg Plasa, a bit of a God in Bergrennen circles, he died a few years ago in the replacement for that car, was amazing to see it in vid clips, here are some stunning Euro hill cars, and Plasa's old 3 series is one of them,

A great tribute to a truly brave, fast and committed man.

[chevronb37]

I tried to broker getting the Edlinger 320 IRL to the FoS a few years ago. Never happened but he’d be ascending at a similar pace to Plasa’s car I’d expect. Faggioli would annihilate the hill record - no doubt in my mind about that. I’ve booked to go to the Masters at Gubbio in October - can’t wait to see him in action again. He’s phenomenal.

[chunder27]

He is that, but recently he has been getting pasted by Christian Merli, who is even quicker and braver!

Fair play to the lad in Plasa's car, he set one hell of a time, would love to see Reto Meisel, Felix, Schwaiger, Schargl all go up there too! My bet would be Cyrille Frantz I think his name is, very quick lad.

Envious of your trip, would love to go man!!

Need to get a decent Berg Cup event in some time soon, before health and safety find it!!

[Vocal Minority]

Everything crossed I will be commentating at the Masters again this year - its a wonderful event. The European way of doing it is so different from the British.

[robstopper]

Breaking news.....

2019 - Romain Dumas, Volkswagen IDR, 42.32s (set a new unofficial record in qualifying of 39.90s!!!!!)
2018 - Romain Dumas, Volkswagen IDR Pikes Peak, 43.86s (went 43.05 in qualifying!)
2017 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR12D, 46.13s
2016 - Olly Clark, Subaru Impreza "Gobstopper II", 46.23s
2015 - Olly Clark, Subaru Impreza "Gobstopper II", 44.91s
2014 - Sebastien Loeb, Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak, 44.6s
2013 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR8/9, 45.95s
2012 - Anthony Reid, Chevron GR8 GT3, 46.46s
2011 - Dan Collins, Lotus Cosworth 88, 48.52s
2010 - Roger Wills, Williams Cosworth FW05, 47.15s
2009 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR8/9, 44.4s
2008 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR8/9, 44.19s
2007 - Anthony Reid, Nissan 350Z GT500, 53.78s (wet)
2006 - Richard Lyons, Nissan 350Z GT500, 49.51s
2005 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR12, 47.96s
2004 - Justin Law, Jaguar XJR12, 49.26s
2003 - Graeme Wight, Gould GR51, 42.9s
2002 - Rod Millen, Toyota Celica Pikes Peak, 47.4s
2001 - David Franklin, Ferrari 712, 48.26s
2000 - Martin Stretton, Tyrrell P34, 45.05s
1999 - Nick Heidfeld, McLaren MP4/13, 41.6s (still quickest outright)
1998 - Nick Heidfeld, McLaren MP4/12, 48.30s
1997 - Nick Heidfeld, McLaren MP4/11B, 47.3s
1996 - Jonathan Palmer, Williams FW07B, 45.0s
1995 - Jonathan Palmer, Williams FW08B, 46.06s
1994 - Martin Brundle, McLaren MP4/9, 47.80s
1993 - Willie Green, Surtees Cosworth TS20 56.3s