Goodwood FoS - Saturday cancelled

Goodwood FoS - Saturday cancelled

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Graveworm

8,496 posts

71 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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bristolbaron said:
Dr Interceptor said:
The poster above going to Mercedes Benz World - Brooklands is just next door across the river Wey, and is a lovely museum to spend a few hours wandering round.
They’ll pop over there if there’s time later. They’ve had a result so far, MB pulled the FOS team back to MBW so they’re getting to see some decent stuff anyway!





Edited by bristolbaron on Saturday 15th July 11:47
We were also there. Lucky happenstance as Saturday was our rest day and we were taking our goddaughter to MBW for her under 17 driving lesson anyway. We left at just after 1 and, by then, it was really busy. They threw some very expensive classic machinery (and the AMG one) around the track so fair play to them. I am guessing it was continuity for their Goodwood hospitality commitments.

nordboy

1,464 posts

50 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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tonymor said:
Is it on tomorrow?
Yes

vaud

50,515 posts

155 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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paulw123 said:
Anyone who thinks this decision was taken lightly is an idiot. Lots of things closed today due to high winds. Currently staying at Center Parcs in Longleat. Safari Park is closed today. Just the times we live in afraid.
Exactly.

Also it probably wasn't a decision for them to make (per se), they would have to look at the forecast and their insurance clauses and apply one to the other.

Diderot

7,321 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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PSRG said:
Lordbenny said:
Whoever was responsible for the dedication to cancel needs sacking. Beautiful day and not too windy!
I’m not sure where you are, but I live in north Chichester only a mile or so ans the crow flys form Goodwood and it’s very windy, with strong gusts and lots of bits flying around from trees. I wouldn’t want to be there today. It was miserable enough there later in the day yesterday in the rain!
Not too far from you but on the coast. Getting worse now again. Force 10 (53 knots) just now at Southampton, highest so far today. Heading our way.

9.3

1,134 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Luckily the Bosham fete went ahead this afternoon unabated!

BananaFama

4,404 posts

79 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Diderot said:
PSRG said:
Lordbenny said:
Whoever was responsible for the dedication to cancel needs sacking. Beautiful day and not too windy!
I’m not sure where you are, but I live in north Chichester only a mile or so ans the crow flys form Goodwood and it’s very windy, with strong gusts and lots of bits flying around from trees. I wouldn’t want to be there today. It was miserable enough there later in the day yesterday in the rain!
Not too far from you but on the coast. Getting worse now again. Force 10 (53 knots) just now at Southampton, highest so far today. Heading our way.
Lordbenny lives near me in Surrey ,about 50 miles north ,it's been an okay day here with some wind and light showers .
I totally get why it was cancelled today .It could have been carnage .

7 minutes later edit , showers also heavy .


Edited by BananaFama on Saturday 15th July 16:59

Voldemort

6,147 posts

278 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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I suspect that after someone got ttted with a wheel t'other day they feel very much under the H&S microscope and the decision to cancel was easier than it might otherwise have been.

The Hypno-Toad

12,283 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Voldemort said:
I suspect that after someone got ttted with a wheel t'other day they feel very much under the H&S microscope and the decision to cancel was easier than it might otherwise have been.
^^^^^ This 100%.

There would have been a lot of very twitchy insurers after that wheel issue and the decision to be better safe than sorry was probably taken.

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Voldemort said:
I suspect that after someone got ttted with a wheel t'other day they feel very much under the H&S microscope and the decision to cancel was easier than it might otherwise have been.
Chain-link fencing, moving spectators further back and/or a speed limit next year?



Robw73

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233 posts

129 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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dr_gn said:
Chain-link fencing, moving spectators further back and/or a speed limit next year?
In my humble opinion, fencing will kill the event.

It's the unique closeness that still offers a huge attraction.

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Robw73 said:
dr_gn said:
Chain-link fencing, moving spectators further back and/or a speed limit next year?
In my humble opinion, fencing will kill the event.

It's the unique closeness that still offers a huge attraction.
I agree, but I get the impression that won't last long. You expect it to then die a death, but it seems like the audience gradually changes to those who've never known any different (like with modern F1). O/T, but it seems like some members of the current F1 crowd wouldn't be out of place at a football match judging by foul-mounthed chanting I've seen online.

Pivo-T

1,082 posts

35 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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I was fortunate to go on Friday. The intermittent showers were annoying, but still doable. However, with heavy wind, the aluminum board-walks and wet grass/mud would be wicked. Good call to cancel today. Hopefully tomorrow it’s open again.

coppice

8,612 posts

144 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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dr_gn said:
I agree, but I get the impression that won't last long. You expect it to then die a death, but it seems like the audience gradually changes to those who've never known any different (like with modern F1). O/T, but it seems like some members of the current F1 crowd wouldn't be out of place at a football match judging by foul-mounthed chanting I've seen online.
Quite - I fell in love with motor sport because it was then almost devoid of the ghastly tribalism and godawful behaviour which affected , and still affects many ball sports. There were only the tifosi , but they were very friendly when we sat among them at Imola .

But jeez .. the DtS converts ask me whom I support . And look bemused when I reply that I only support close racing , and rarely care very much who wins. I fear I am now in a small minority - let's call it an elite ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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It just needs some sensible management of cars capabilities. Doing a burnout in a Mk2 jag with knock off wheel nuts, then drifting round a corner isn’t *that* sensible so may be a “you can only do a burn out or drift with wheels fixed by more than one bolt” type thing…

We’ve often spectated at Goodwood circuit during the revival or members meeting and thought you need to be looking up the track for a stray wheel from a race car or something. Problem at FoS is how busy the pinch points/best viewing areas are though I always maintain the best place to view is the first 100m from the start line.

I can’t see catch fencing at a temporary event such as at FoS, surely they would just the event changing into a new/supercar parade and a motor show type affair with the occasional historic car too. Personally I think there’s a gap in the market now the traditional motor show format is dead and Goodwood could really exploit it. Many more appear to be interested in the latest Lamborghini Aventador CBR1000RR than a Porsche 917 so why not just start focusing on that market?

The revival, members meeting, Silverstone classic, VSCC and HSCC events have all the historic content you could ask for at, as far as the last two events are concerned, on the whole, considerably less financial outlay.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 15th July 18:29

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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pablo said:
It just needs some sensible management of cars capabilities. Doing a burnout in a Mk2 jag with knock off wheel nuts, then drifting round a corner isn’t *that* sensible so may be a “you can only do a burn out or drift with wheels fixed by more than one bolt” c
It was probably nothing whatsoever to do with the knock-of centrelock wheels. Think of how many Grand Prix and leMans cars had them.

Far more likely to be a splined hub failure (behind the inner taper), with the splined hub and spinner being still firmly attached to the wheel when it entered the crowd (as shown in certain angles on video).

philswitchengage

8 posts

10 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Here’s a pretty good video showing the way the site is at th moment - there’s lots of stuff been moved and put away. It’s going to be a fair job to get it all back out in the morning…

https://youtu.be/rffcwoJWWZA

Red9zero

6,858 posts

57 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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dr_gn said:
pablo said:
It just needs some sensible management of cars capabilities. Doing a burnout in a Mk2 jag with knock off wheel nuts, then drifting round a corner isn’t *that* sensible so may be a “you can only do a burn out or drift with wheels fixed by more than one bolt” c
It was probably nothing whatsoever to do with the knock-of centrelock wheels. Think of how many Grand Prix and leMans cars had them.

Far more likely to be a splined hub failure (behind the inner taper), with the splined hub and spinner being still firmly attached to the wheel when it entered the crowd (as shown in certain angles on video).
Driveshaft failed according to his twitter.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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philswitchengage said:
Here’s a pretty good video showing the way the site is at th moment - there’s lots of stuff been moved and put away. It’s going to be a fair job to get it all back out in the morning…

https://youtu.be/rffcwoJWWZA
Serious overnight shifts considering they've confirmed that they are opening at 7am as normal tomorrow, incredible amount of work to be done, presumably later this evening when this wind dies off.

loskie

5,227 posts

120 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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Kirkcudbright country festival was also cancelled.
Tough call for organisers but with today’s compensation culture wholly understandable

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 15th July 2023
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dr_gn said:
It was probably nothing whatsoever to do with the knock-of centrelock wheels. Think of how many Grand Prix and leMans cars had them.

Far more likely to be a splined hub failure (behind the inner taper), with the splined hub and spinner being still firmly attached to the wheel when it entered the crowd (as shown in certain angles on video).
Ah tight thanks, that makes sense…… but also opens up another issue whereby the car is now producing considerably more power than period but due to FIA app k(?)regs, components such as driveshafts etc have to remain as per period design and construction so can now longer cope with the power… to say nothing of the improvements in tyres…