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Fourmotion

1,026 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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I don't think so.

It could be misleading even if you found out - I have segments listed under 'My Segments' simply because I was the first to ride them and they were picked up using their automatic segment creation tool from my rides. But I didn't prompt that at all.

dave0010

1,381 posts

162 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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So I basically cheated along a few segments tonight and still didn't get anywhere near the top!! coming onto a round about before a long stretch of road, I joined behind a tractor towing a trailer. Channeling my inner Guy Martin I tucked in behind the trailer. I was mainly doing this to avoid a heavy headwind and rain but stuck behind for maybe 3 miles.

It was great fun I must say but I did think there would be a touch of guilt about nicking someones KOM. Turns out I was still not even close. Really makes me question how some people clock such fast times. I'm guessing it must be group riding?

Dizeee

18,356 posts

207 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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It is exactly that.

3.9 mile segment near me at the end of our club run, my best time with a group nailing it is around 9 mins @ circa 30 mph average - on my own best I can do is around 10 mins circa 25mph average. When you factor in wind and pace of the group at any given time, there is around a 2 to 3 minute difference.

Silver940

3,961 posts

228 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Or a big ass tailwind, took a few recently thanks to a perfect storm of a tailwind to the point where I wished I had a 53 chainring not a compact! I had really paid on the outward leg though.

Hefty wind from the West today, best check the map wink

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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I picked up 2 KOMs on Wednesday by drafting a bin lorry up a hill taking 7 seconds off the previous KOM, it was a complete fluke as the lights were in our favour too... I got as close to the lorry as I felt was comfortable and was feathering the brake for most of the time, its not like I was holding on to it!. Its amazing how quickly you lose the draft though once out of the slipstream and then you drop backwardsat an alarming rate.. as for the KOM, I dont feel that guilty, others TTT their way to a KOM or get lucky behind vehicles, its just luck.

http://app.strava.com/segments/3417123/

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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pablo said:
I picked up 2 KOMs on Wednesday by drafting a bin lorry up a hill taking 7 seconds off the previous KOM, it was a complete fluke as the lights were in our favour too... I got as close to the lorry as I felt was comfortable and was feathering the brake for most of the time, its not like I was holding on to it!. Its amazing how quickly you lose the draft though once out of the slipstream and then you drop backwardsat an alarming rate.. as for the KOM, I dont feel that guilty, others TTT their way to a KOM or get lucky behind vehicles, its just luck.

http://app.strava.com/segments/3417123/
Hmmmmmm?

Drafting a bin lorry? Smells like fun.

Not.

dave0010

1,381 posts

162 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Anyone else think that starve should clear leader boards and segment times on a set interval? I know people could theoretically just re-upload old rides but It would defiantly give people a great bit of motivation to temporally hold a KOM.

Dizeee

18,356 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Not at all. It needs to be the way it is to remain integral. The effort required to get to the top needs real motivation sometimes and if your times are repeatedly wiped it makes it all pointless.

Dizeee

18,356 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Not at all. It needs to be the way it is to remain integral. The effort required to get to the top needs real motivation sometimes and if your times are repeatedly wiped it makes it all pointless.

Some Gump

12,705 posts

187 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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The only segment wiping needs to be a like / dislike button for areas with excess segments, with the least popular being culled. e.g my local landmark the Cat and fiddle climb has 20 odd segments on it, most of which are utter toss. Sadly, the proper one (atrighi Bicnchi's to the pub) is now hidden because the rubbish "part of a hill" segments have more riders (naturally, they're 1/2 a mile each not 7 miles).

I mainly care about my own PR, but also whether I can beat that skinny bugger James from purchasing. If his best time (1 min faster than my PR) was to be removed by some sort of auto kill, then suddenly I would be above him -and that would take all the fun out of it IMO.

dave0010

1,381 posts

162 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Can someone explain the VAM score next to your segments. I've read the description on strava but still don't understand it.

okgo

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38,101 posts

199 months

dave0010

1,381 posts

162 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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right :/ so basically the higher then number the better? ha.

okgo

Original Poster:

38,101 posts

199 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Correct.

scubadude

2,618 posts

198 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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okgo said:
Everyday is a School day- I did not know that, am now expecting a thread of VAM scores to appear :-) (My best is a poor 900 something)

dave0010

1,381 posts

162 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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okgo said:
Correct.
thanks

matt-ITR

892 posts

190 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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VAM is fairly pointless unless the hill/mountain has a decent amount of elevation.
It works brilliantly for comparing in the Alps for example, but mostly pointless in the UK - especially when comparing to Pro VAM numbers.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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I just went for a ride without Strava, it was bloody lovely biggrin

ALawson

7,815 posts

252 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
I just went for a ride without Strava, it was bloody lovely biggrin
I just went for a ride to get home to find there was no GPS data, ahhhh.

Never mind a most lovely evening!

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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ALawson said:
WinstonWolf said:
I just went for a ride without Strava, it was bloody lovely biggrin
I just went for a ride to get home to find there was no GPS data, ahhhh.

Never mind a most lovely evening!
Now that's just cruel! smile