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scubadude said:
okgo said:
Everyday is a School day- I did not know that, am now expecting a thread of VAM scores to appear :-) (My best is a poor 900 something)I'd seen the VAM number on hilly segments, but also didn't fully understand what it meant.
Now I understand exactly what it means. I am s
t at climbing 
(best I can find is a 751 up 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' and the same again up 'The Real Hill', Box Hill)
My 751 on 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' compares with the KOM for that segment, "john storms" (British National Champion - Hill Climb - 'B' Veterans, 2012) who's VAM for the segment was 2206
On my local 10 tt last night strava came in fairly accurately for me, giving me the exact same time as the stopwatch. However for my friend it added on almost a minute to his time. So despite my friend apparently being 40 secobds faster by stopwatch he is shown 15 seconds slower than me on the strava segment. Confusing.
yellowjack said:
One more 'thank you' for that link.
I'd seen the VAM number on hilly segments, but also didn't fully understand what it meant.
Now I understand exactly what it means. I am st at climbing
(best I can find is a 751 up 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' and the same again up 'The Real Hill', Box Hill)
My 751 on 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' compares with the KOM for that segment, "john storms" (British National Champion - Hill Climb - 'B' Veterans, 2012) who's VAM for the segment was 2206
I tend to pretty consistently be in the 1000-1100 range up moderate climbs (3ish km, 7-8%, 9-11 minutes). Not sure how that compares, but I can't see why the number shouldn't be reasonably accurate over a climb of that length. I'd seen the VAM number on hilly segments, but also didn't fully understand what it meant.
Now I understand exactly what it means. I am s
t at climbing (best I can find is a 751 up 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' and the same again up 'The Real Hill', Box Hill)
My 751 on 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' compares with the KOM for that segment, "john storms" (British National Champion - Hill Climb - 'B' Veterans, 2012) who's VAM for the segment was 2206
I found out the meaning of embarrassment last night. My mate invited me to Richmond Park for a spin, then bailed on me last minute, so I went all-out to beat his PBs (on my heavy bike with a pannier rack) by way of punishment.
Ran out of puff 30 seconds from the end of the climb up to Richmond Gate from Ham Gate, and got overtaken.
By an 8 year old.
On an IslaBike.
FML.
In fairness, he was a bloody quick 8 year old!
Ran out of puff 30 seconds from the end of the climb up to Richmond Gate from Ham Gate, and got overtaken.
By an 8 year old.
On an IslaBike.
FML.
In fairness, he was a bloody quick 8 year old!
yellowjack said:
One more 'thank you' for that link.
I'd seen the VAM number on hilly segments, but also didn't fully understand what it meant.
Now I understand exactly what it means. I am st at climbing
(best I can find is a 751 up 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' and the same again up 'The Real Hill', Box Hill)
My 751 on 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' compares with the KOM for that segment, "john storms" (British National Champion - Hill Climb - 'B' Veterans, 2012) who's VAM for the segment was 2206
Your not seriously calling Box Hill "the real hill" more like mole hill! I'd seen the VAM number on hilly segments, but also didn't fully understand what it meant.
Now I understand exactly what it means. I am s
t at climbing (best I can find is a 751 up 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' and the same again up 'The Real Hill', Box Hill)
My 751 on 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' compares with the KOM for that segment, "john storms" (British National Champion - Hill Climb - 'B' Veterans, 2012) who's VAM for the segment was 2206
Grandfondo said:
yellowjack said:
One more 'thank you' for that link.
I'd seen the VAM number on hilly segments, but also didn't fully understand what it meant.
Now I understand exactly what it means. I am st at climbing
(best I can find is a 751 up 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' and the same again up 'The Real Hill', Box Hill)
My 751 on 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' compares with the KOM for that segment, "john storms" (British National Champion - Hill Climb - 'B' Veterans, 2012) who's VAM for the segment was 2206
Your not seriously calling Box Hill "the real hill" more like mole hill! I'd seen the VAM number on hilly segments, but also didn't fully understand what it meant.
Now I understand exactly what it means. I am s
t at climbing (best I can find is a 751 up 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' and the same again up 'The Real Hill', Box Hill)
My 751 on 'Whitedown Lane, Surrey Hills' compares with the KOM for that segment, "john storms" (British National Champion - Hill Climb - 'B' Veterans, 2012) who's VAM for the segment was 2206
Brummmie said:
I got a second place on the way home tonight, only been on Strava two days and i'm hooked!
Got a seventh on another stretch too....must improve on that one...
Most flat segments will have TTers and chain gangs at the top of the leaderboard so its difficult to really rank yourself there. I only really look at my ranking on climbs where your position will be more representative of your ability versus others.Got a seventh on another stretch too....must improve on that one...
nammynake said:
Brummmie said:
I got a second place on the way home tonight, only been on Strava two days and i'm hooked!
Got a seventh on another stretch too....must improve on that one...
Most flat segments will have TTers and chain gangs at the top of the leaderboard so its difficult to really rank yourself there. I only really look at my ranking on climbs where your position will be more representative of your ability versus others.Got a seventh on another stretch too....must improve on that one...
But there are others where they dont appear, and its not like they are bagging if you look at their rides as a whole,
I have a single KOM, I aint got a clue how as its uphill and I aint best built for them hills, and have got me in a couple of top 10's on 'TT's, I take more pride as these TT's are towards my house so are done on the way home within the last 3 or 4 mile.
Taking in part of TDF day2 tomorrow, show how slow I really am
http://app.strava.com/activities/140810906
Guernsey's Tobyn Horton's ride from the Stoke on Trent city centre race from this week. Pretty impressive stats, not sure about the elevation though. Regularly have the 'pleasure' of trying to keep on his wheel in the local chain gangs and group rides through the year. Very painful! Although I did nick a KOM off him recently.
Guernsey's Tobyn Horton's ride from the Stoke on Trent city centre race from this week. Pretty impressive stats, not sure about the elevation though. Regularly have the 'pleasure' of trying to keep on his wheel in the local chain gangs and group rides through the year. Very painful! Although I did nick a KOM off him recently.
nammynake said:
Most flat segments will have TTers and chain gangs at the top of the leaderboard so its difficult to really rank yourself there. I only really look at my ranking on climbs where your position will be more representative of your ability versus others.
Most hill segments will have undernourished twiglet climbing specialists who weigh nothing at the top of the leaderboard so its difficult to really rank yourself there. I only really look at my ranking on the flat where your position will be more representative of your ability versus others
yellowjack said:
Good Lord, no. It's the actual name of one of the Umtpy Billion segments up it, hence the capitals and the 'marks' around it. Same for Whitedown Lane. I've written the segment names exactly as they appear on Strava, because there are multiple segments on both of those hills
Is anyone else getting increasingly hacked off with this? 
I've been riding my commute for over three years now, and recently have kept notching up new PRs and podium times. Of course I start out thinking "yippee! I've got faster!", then open the ride only to find it's yet another numpty adding yet another segment which is near enough identical to something which is already there!
Why do people do this?? I can understand people setting up new segments which cover just the 3 miles that they personally spend on CS7, for example, to compare their own times, but why the hell are there now three almost identical segments on Clapham Common Southside which only vary by a few yards at either end????
I'm sure Strava could automatically decline any new segments within a certain tolerance of existing ones.
Most segments in Central London are worthless anyway. It's more a question of how heavy the traffic was and how lucky you got with the lights. There aren't many where you can get a proper measure of your relative pace.
Most segments in Central London are worthless anyway. It's more a question of how heavy the traffic was and how lucky you got with the lights. There aren't many where you can get a proper measure of your relative pace.
Kermit power said:
Is anyone else getting increasingly hacked off with this?
I've been riding my commute for over three years now, and recently have kept notching up new PRs and podium times. Of course I start out thinking "yippee! I've got faster!", then open the ride only to find it's yet another numpty adding yet another segment which is near enough identical to something which is already there!
Why do people do this?? I can understand people setting up new segments which cover just the 3 miles that they personally spend on CS7, for example, to compare their own times, but why the hell are there now three almost identical segments on Clapham Common Southside which only vary by a few yards at either end????
Hit "Hide" on all the crap ones, I believe that if a large enough percentage of people hide the same segment it gets hidden by default. I do agree that a bit of a cull is needed though!I've been riding my commute for over three years now, and recently have kept notching up new PRs and podium times. Of course I start out thinking "yippee! I've got faster!", then open the ride only to find it's yet another numpty adding yet another segment which is near enough identical to something which is already there!
Why do people do this?? I can understand people setting up new segments which cover just the 3 miles that they personally spend on CS7, for example, to compare their own times, but why the hell are there now three almost identical segments on Clapham Common Southside which only vary by a few yards at either end????
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