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Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

226 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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HereBeMonsters said:
pablo said:
HereBeMonsters said:
There's a downhill section in the woods near me that's mainly ridden by old people on hybrids, or kids on jump bikes.
So on Strava I'm 10mph faster down it than anyone else. This means I've been flagged by about ten different people, and therefore have had my KOM stripped, despite my protestations to Strava bods. They say "we can't do anything for you". Well, you could. You could re-instate my fking sector.

I'm just going to have to go back and do it over and over again until they get the point that yes, you can go downhill at at 35mph offroad.
Do this. I flagged a guy recently who had almost certainly used a powered vehicle to bag a few segments, including one where he reached 63kmh up a up a 3.3% avg grad hill!, and strava removed it. He hasnt been back to reclaim it again.... they will get bored of flagging it eventually.
I've stopped trying for sectors on my commute now, as I'm regularly passed by people with powered bikes. I actually saw one guy at the bottom of a hill fiddling with his phone before flying up at around 20mph. I average about 7mph up it!
It's fun nailing those people though. Once the 48v bikes become widespread it may be more difficult.


Westy Carl

178 posts

249 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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OK, just got introduced to Strava (wow how did I miss this!)
Current method is via the Andriod APP (HTC one mini), if I want to get heart rate I guess the easiest is using a Polar WearLink+ with Bluetooth HRM strap.
Can anyone confirm this will work (or is there an easier way)

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

204 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
HereBeMonsters said:
pablo said:
HereBeMonsters said:
There's a downhill section in the woods near me that's mainly ridden by old people on hybrids, or kids on jump bikes.
So on Strava I'm 10mph faster down it than anyone else. This means I've been flagged by about ten different people, and therefore have had my KOM stripped, despite my protestations to Strava bods. They say "we can't do anything for you". Well, you could. You could re-instate my fking sector.

I'm just going to have to go back and do it over and over again until they get the point that yes, you can go downhill at at 35mph offroad.
Do this. I flagged a guy recently who had almost certainly used a powered vehicle to bag a few segments, including one where he reached 63kmh up a up a 3.3% avg grad hill!, and strava removed it. He hasnt been back to reclaim it again.... they will get bored of flagging it eventually.
I've stopped trying for sectors on my commute now, as I'm regularly passed by people with powered bikes. I actually saw one guy at the bottom of a hill fiddling with his phone before flying up at around 20mph. I average about 7mph up it!
It's fun nailing those people though. Once the 48v bikes become widespread it may be more difficult.
All the electric bikes I see look like they would have trouble pulling the skin of rice puddings, don't get me wrong they are great for helping the elderly to get about, but none look too powerful, especially up 8% + hills . I'm not saying they don't exist but in WIlts they all look st in terms of power at the moment

Saw a younger guy on one the other day on a hill, I pulled out to overtake with a cheery hello, he gave me the skunk eye and then I heard the high pitch whine get louder and crankier, although he was still doing a pretty stty speed and I carried on pulling away .




BMWBen

4,899 posts

200 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
HereBeMonsters said:
pablo said:
HereBeMonsters said:
There's a downhill section in the woods near me that's mainly ridden by old people on hybrids, or kids on jump bikes.
So on Strava I'm 10mph faster down it than anyone else. This means I've been flagged by about ten different people, and therefore have had my KOM stripped, despite my protestations to Strava bods. They say "we can't do anything for you". Well, you could. You could re-instate my fking sector.

I'm just going to have to go back and do it over and over again until they get the point that yes, you can go downhill at at 35mph offroad.
Do this. I flagged a guy recently who had almost certainly used a powered vehicle to bag a few segments, including one where he reached 63kmh up a up a 3.3% avg grad hill!, and strava removed it. He hasnt been back to reclaim it again.... they will get bored of flagging it eventually.
I've stopped trying for sectors on my commute now, as I'm regularly passed by people with powered bikes. I actually saw one guy at the bottom of a hill fiddling with his phone before flying up at around 20mph. I average about 7mph up it!
It's fun nailing those people though. Once the 48v bikes become widespread it may be more difficult.
All the electric bikes I see look like they would have trouble pulling the skin of rice puddings, don't get me wrong they are great for helping the elderly to get about, but none look too powerful, especially up 8% + hills . I'm not saying they don't exist but in WIlts they all look st in terms of power at the moment

Saw a younger guy on one the other day on a hill, I pulled out to overtake with a cheery hello, he gave me the skunk eye and then I heard the high pitch whine get louder and crankier, although he was still doing a pretty stty speed and I carried on pulling away .
I can confirm however, that the go-cycle does go up hills quite well. It was an all out effort to stay with one up broomfield hill in Richmond Park!

yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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lepetitoeuf said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
All the electric bikes I see look like they would have trouble pulling the skin of rice puddings, don't get me wrong they are great for helping the elderly to get about, but none look too powerful, especially up 8% + hills . I'm not saying they don't exist but in WIlts they all look st in terms of power at the moment

Saw a younger guy on one the other day on a hill, I pulled out to overtake with a cheery hello, he gave me the skunk eye and then I heard the high pitch whine get louder and crankier, although he was still doing a pretty stty speed and I carried on pulling away .
This morning I drove into work and had trouble keeping up with an electric bike being ridden by a guy with glasses, a moustache, sandals and a builders hi-viz. He was doing 30-40mph on the A316, pretty scary stuff.
The first time I encountered an 'E-bike' on the road, I was gurning my way up a short sharp climb at the start of a ride. The chap on the e-bike literally whizzed past up the hill, wearing a suit, an expensive looking woolen coat, with a briefcase strapped to the rear carrier. I was on a road bike in full Lycra. To say I was a bit pissed off was an understatement, so I dug in and caught him at the top of the hill. We exchanged a few words, as I realised what it was he was riding, and he explained that he was a regular road cyclist, but the 'assist' he received from the motor enabled him to keep comfortable and non-sweaty on his commute to and from the station. He pointed out that with maximum assist he could out-climb me, but that, due to the limitations on assist above 15mph(?I think?), there was no way he could catch me on the flats and descents. That was pretty much the moment when I changed my mind about electrically assisted bikes, realising that they fulfill a useful purpose, rather than being 'cheating' at cycling.

As far as Strava is concerned, though, they absolutely are not "in the spirit" of cycling, and owners should refrain from uploading their activities done with assistance. Most riders would have the integrity to self-police, but I cannot see how the Strava folk can police it otherwise. Maybe they need another 'activity type' so that e-bikes could be kept separate from 'proper' bikes on the leaderboards.

From my own perspective, I seriously doubt the validity of a number of KOMs locally, and the most suspicious times are the ones least likely to be backed up with HRM/cadence data. I've just given up on ever troubling the leaderboard on a number of local segments, and now concentrate on hitting the ones with realistic timings.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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BMWBen said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
HereBeMonsters said:
pablo said:
HereBeMonsters said:
There's a downhill section in the woods near me that's mainly ridden by old people on hybrids, or kids on jump bikes.
So on Strava I'm 10mph faster down it than anyone else. This means I've been flagged by about ten different people, and therefore have had my KOM stripped, despite my protestations to Strava bods. They say "we can't do anything for you". Well, you could. You could re-instate my fking sector.

I'm just going to have to go back and do it over and over again until they get the point that yes, you can go downhill at at 35mph offroad.
Do this. I flagged a guy recently who had almost certainly used a powered vehicle to bag a few segments, including one where he reached 63kmh up a up a 3.3% avg grad hill!, and strava removed it. He hasnt been back to reclaim it again.... they will get bored of flagging it eventually.
I've stopped trying for sectors on my commute now, as I'm regularly passed by people with powered bikes. I actually saw one guy at the bottom of a hill fiddling with his phone before flying up at around 20mph. I average about 7mph up it!
It's fun nailing those people though. Once the 48v bikes become widespread it may be more difficult.
All the electric bikes I see look like they would have trouble pulling the skin of rice puddings, don't get me wrong they are great for helping the elderly to get about, but none look too powerful, especially up 8% + hills . I'm not saying they don't exist but in WIlts they all look st in terms of power at the moment

Saw a younger guy on one the other day on a hill, I pulled out to overtake with a cheery hello, he gave me the skunk eye and then I heard the high pitch whine get louder and crankier, although he was still doing a pretty stty speed and I carried on pulling away .
I can confirm however, that the go-cycle does go up hills quite well. It was an all out effort to stay with one up broomfield hill in Richmond Park!
Hmmm are there hills in RIchmond park? Always seemed like slight inclines whenever I went through there

okgo

Original Poster:

37,841 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Hmmm are there hills in RIchmond park? Always seemed like slight inclines whenever I went through there
Its over 10%, so unless you're Contador, you would notice you were going up it.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Has anyone else been Strava stalked ? I had two conversations at the weekend about cyclists I didn't know along the lines of "Yeah, he checked you out on Strava". yikes

okgo

Original Poster:

37,841 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Just set your profile to 'request to follow' that way all rides are private unless they request to follow you.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
Has anyone else been Strava stalked ? I had two conversations at the weekend about cyclists I didn't know along the lines of "Yeah, he checked you out on Strava". yikes
I had some random Brazillain follow me over the weekend.

yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
Has anyone else been Strava stalked ? I had two conversations at the weekend about cyclists I didn't know along the lines of "Yeah, he checked you out on Strava". yikes
I had some random Brazillain follow me over the weekend.
I've had 'kudos' left by a South African rider on my last two rides. He's not even 'following' me as far as I can see. No idea how he found me, or what his interest is, either. I'm not exactly setting the world (or the leaderboards) alight...


...no matter, it's harmless as far as I can tell.

yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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okgo said:
Just set your profile to 'request to follow' that way all rides are private unless they request to follow you.
It's possible to circumvent that privacy, via the leaderboards, if you can find the rider you want on them. Just click on the time from the leaderboard and that particular ride will be viewable. I used that one to send a 'cease and desist' warning to a couple of 'trail diggers' who I caught digging on MOD land. I got no response, but at least they know they're being watched now.

I've also said a 'digital' "Hi!" to a couple of people I've identified via the StravaLabs ride playback site, but only folk I've actually met and spoken to on a ride. I'm not weird or owt wink

okgo

Original Poster:

37,841 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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yellowjack said:
It's possible to circumvent that privacy, via the leaderboards, if you can find the rider you want on them. Just click on the time from the leaderboard and that particular ride will be viewable. I used that one to send a 'cease and desist' warning to a couple of 'trail diggers' who I caught digging on MOD land. I got no response, but at least they know they're being watched now.

I've also said a 'digital' "Hi!" to a couple of people I've identified via the StravaLabs ride playback site, but only folk I've actually met and spoken to on a ride. I'm not weird or owt wink
I've used it to hunt out choppers who sit on my wheel when I'm on my TT bike training and give them both barrels for it.-

Fotic

719 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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yellowjack said:
I used that one to send a 'cease and desist' warning to a couple of 'trail diggers' who I caught digging on MOD land. I got no response, but at least they know they're being watched now.
rofl

BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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okgo said:
I've used it to hunt out choppers who sit on my wheel when I'm on my TT bike training and give them both barrels for it.-
What is the problem with this? I find people do this to me fairly often and I will sometimes do likewise if I happen upon another rider. I am not on a TT bike if that makes a difference.

okgo

Original Poster:

37,841 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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On road bike, I don't have an issue as such, but if I am training rather than dawdling I will do my best to drop them instead of drag them round the park or Surrey.

On a TT bike however, I am not near the brakes when in the extensions, I am training on fast roads, and I'm usually going faster than I would on a roadbike. The last thing I want is somebody I don't know on my wheel, or more likely half wheeling me as he's got no idea. The reasons it annoys me is because TT bikes are not THAT safe at the best of times on public roads, but if I need to stop, or take evasive action then the bloke behind me doesn't know I am not near my brakes. If he is half wheeling and I move right to dodge a hole then it all goes wrong very quickly. The fact its a £4500 frame also makes me nervous about randoms sitting 2 inches away from me.

As for doing it to other people, what is the point?

yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Fotic said:
yellowjack said:
I used that one to send a 'cease and desist' warning to a couple of 'trail diggers' who I caught digging on MOD land. I got no response, but at least they know they're being watched now.
rofl
Why the laughter? You really cannot seriously side with two twunts digging frankly dangerous 'jumps', 'rollovers', and 'berms' on an already unauthorised trail, on land which doesn't belong to them, and from which the MOD already want to ban mountain bikes?

tttery of that sort hands ammo to the land wardens, which will only advance the agenda against cyclists. So I warned them that they were incurring the wrath of a government department which will not hesitate to bring it's powers (and they are real powers, by the way, actual Bylaws, not idle threats) to bear on whomever they catch in the act, so as to make an example of them.

The MOD attitude to us (MTBers) is mainly informed by the small, yet significant minority of asshats who dig trails, damage fences, hoon around like idiots and ride straight through training serials. The silent majority are rarely seen by the Army guys, or the land warden/estates team, because we do none of those things, yet who do you think stands to suffer the most from any ban? Yup, laugh it up, because it's dead funny...


...until such time as the MOD loose patience with the idiots, and we're ALL left with nowhere decent to ride.



YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! rolleyes


BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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okgo said:
On road bike, I don't have an issue as such, but if I am training rather than dawdling I will do my best to drop them instead of drag them round the park or Surrey.

On a TT bike however, I am not near the brakes when in the extensions, I am training on fast roads, and I'm usually going faster than I would on a roadbike. The last thing I want is somebody I don't know on my wheel, or more likely half wheeling me as he's got no idea. The reasons it annoys me is because TT bikes are not THAT safe at the best of times on public roads, but if I need to stop, or take evasive action then the bloke behind me doesn't know I am not near my brakes. If he is half wheeling and I move right to dodge a hole then it all goes wrong very quickly. The fact its a £4500 frame also makes me nervous about randoms sitting 2 inches away from me.

As for doing it to other people, what is the point?
OK I wondered if it was brake proximity related. Doing it to others tends to be on uphill bits and the point is I am a Fat B**tard so every little bit of help is needed.

okgo

Original Poster:

37,841 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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If you do, then give them a turn, or let them know you're there. Its considered a bit rude otherwise...

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

205 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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BigBen said:
What is the problem with this? I find people do this to me fairly often and I will sometimes do likewise if I happen upon another rider. I am not on a TT bike if that makes a difference.
If the rider pulls up along side me and has a chat then,no problem but if he just whelsucks then I will give him a real hard time including not pointing out potholes,drainconers etc!