Discussion
Had a good 30 mile fast ride last night, knocked a whopping 37 seconds off my PB on a steep circa 5 minute climb. Even regained a KOM by just 1 second, only for the guy I pushed into 2nd go out tonight and smash my time. Part of me is impressed (he clocked 26mph average compared to my 21) but the other part of me is a bit peed off that he had to go out so soon to regain it. He must have really been pissed off to lose his KOM!
Grrr.
The Garmin website has my average speed for this mornings commute as 20.1mph. Hurrah! http://connect.garmin.com/activity/588516175
The Strava website has it as 19.9mpg. Boooo. http://www.strava.com/activities/193346271
Which is right?
Steve
The Garmin website has my average speed for this mornings commute as 20.1mph. Hurrah! http://connect.garmin.com/activity/588516175
The Strava website has it as 19.9mpg. Boooo. http://www.strava.com/activities/193346271
Which is right?
Steve
Matt_N said:
They came through a lot of my local roads on Wednesday and smashed every KoM!
Alex Dowsett took a fair few.
Will they reset the sections so us mere mortals can have a crack at the KoMs again or will they stay?
I honestly don't know the answer to that, although I imagine that they will remain on the leaderboards as they are not 'assisted' or otherwise contrary to the spirit of Strava.Alex Dowsett took a fair few.
Will they reset the sections so us mere mortals can have a crack at the KoMs again or will they stay?
It'd be nice, though, to be able to filter out the 'professional' riders from the leaderboards, so as to see how you would fair amongst fellow amateurs. Maybe this feature already exists? All I know is that my son has a segment on his ride to college that has Wouter Sybrandy (Team IG-Sigma Sport) sitting in third place overall... http://www.strava.com/segments/3346577 ...so he has no chance of getting onto the leaderboard on his pig-iron BSO rigid 6 speed 'MTB' that I put together to save him from worrying about locking his 'good' bike up outside college all day every day. The other two chaps in first and second are not 'professional bike riders' in the strict sense, but I know (via his profile) that the KOM on that run is a veteran category amateur racer, so I think any filter would end up falling down because of the complexity of who to count as a 'pro'. Better to leave it as is, or pay for premium membership so that you can filter by age/weight to see how you come up against your immediate peer group.
Saying that, there are lots of off-road segments local to me that regularly feature in MTB races, and so there are some pretty quick times to aspire to on them, yet the the ridiculously remote chance I have of troubling the leaders on those segments has never put me off riding them, as ultimately, the leaderboard is just a way for me to measure any progress I make against my own previous attempts on those segments. I'm not 'racing' these riders, as I usually ride alone, without on-site medical cover, and direct rivals spurring my efforts on. As such I'm likely to be less 'pushed' to beat a rider who isn't actually there, and more conservative in my approach to hazards because if I come off the bike, I'm on my own, with no-one else to give first aid or to summon help. So I don't worry about placings and such, I just ride as fast as I can manage on a given day without turning myself inside out or riding beyond my technical ability. If Strava was to ever interfere with my enjoyment of bike riding for it's own sake, then the Garmin would have to go back onto ebay, from whence it came...
upsidedownmark said:
Really? That seems utterly pointless; at which point are you 'pro' enough to have to do this? Is the majority so shallow they'd rather be king of the mediocre than compare themselves against the top end? Actually, maybe I shouldn't ask 
You're either KOM or you aren't...WinstonWolf said:
upsidedownmark said:
Really? That seems utterly pointless; at which point are you 'pro' enough to have to do this? Is the majority so shallow they'd rather be king of the mediocre than compare themselves against the top end? Actually, maybe I shouldn't ask
You're either KOM or you aren't...gazza285 said:
CoolC said:
I think the unwritten rule is that pro's flag their own rides so they are removed from the list.
There's a lot of pros still on the segments used in the TdF.Perhaps strava needs some kind of age grading like park run uses.
A lot of Strava KOM's are utter bull anyway. There's one nugget who's well known in my locale, he is forever putting in 30 mph rides up a 14% hill near me and so on ( he's got an electric bike with modified motors).He just waits until people get bored of flagging his (non) achievements then does it again. I think the trick with Strava segments, is to measure yourself against the fastest of the fastest closely grouped bunch on a segment, and not pay too much attention to the KOM's as such.
So what? The speed you can do in a tailwind is amazing. Speed you can do drafting a bus is pretty impressive too! Plenty of Strava users ride together in clubs/groups.
It's never going to be a level playing field. Get over it / if it really matters that much, go do a TT / race / whatever (and yes okgo, I know you do..)
It's never going to be a level playing field. Get over it / if it really matters that much, go do a TT / race / whatever (and yes okgo, I know you do..)
upsidedownmark said:
Over a distance no doubt, as ride london proves - although most strava segments are pretty short.
Still reckon it's delusional if they're thinking they'd be beatable if they weren't riding in a bunch. Each to their own
Well some of them are.Still reckon it's delusional if they're thinking they'd be beatable if they weren't riding in a bunch. Each to their own
A guy I ride time trials with has the KOM up Sal Colabra in Majorca ahead of loads of pro riders, last time I checked I was quicker than a load of pro's up another climb in Majorca too, I doubt they were going full gas, but the point remains.
Pro's are amazing, but they are not all amazing at everything, as I think David Millar may prove when he likely gets beaten in the Bec Hil climb he has entered thinking he is going to set a new course record.
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