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loudlashadjuster said:
Apparently Live Segments for Premium users now work on phones as well as Garmins, unsurprisingly the implementation looks to be a lot better too.
There goes another justification for a Garmin...
Anyone want to buy an Edge 520?
I'm still not entirely comfortable with the idea of attaching the phone to the handlebars and how long will the battery last with the screen on permanently?There goes another justification for a Garmin...
Anyone want to buy an Edge 520?
Silver940 said:
I'm still not entirely comfortable with the idea of attaching the phone to the handlebars and how long will the battery last with the screen on permanently?
Seriously considering dumping the 520 and buying a tatty iPhone 5 (£75?), battery case (£20?) and quadlock (£20). It might not last as long as a Garmin, but with 1,500-2,000 mAh supplementing the built in 1,440 mAh I can't imagine that it wouldn't last at least 7 or 8 hours with the backlight low and no background data, i.e. more than enough.With a decent quadlock it's be as secure as a Garmin and while there's always the "what if I stack it and it gets damaged"?, well the case should help and a) it might be OK, b) if it breaks it might be fixable, and c) it's only another £75 if you need to get a new one. Garmins aren't indestructible either.
It'll be heavier than a Garmin, but it does mean not having to carry a separate phone with you so probably weight neutral.
Thinking it would be worth it to rid myself of the woeful Garmin UI and their ecosystem of s
tty apps.
It's been noticed more this last few weeks, because of the Giro Climbing Challenge, but what is it with folk who duplicate their rides by recording on both a Garmin and a mobile phone App? And what is it with others who indulge this behaviour by giving 'Kudos' to both the 'activities'?
https://www.strava.com/athletes/10520169
Not just one ride, neither. I could understand that if you'd borrowed a Garmin to try, or were trying to establish how accurate your phone's GPS is. But routinely doubling up your distance and elevation? It makes you look slightly silly.
It's no more than mildly irritating for me, as I know what I've done is good data presented only once, but it skews the 'leaderboards' and can bend some folk out of shape quite a bit. That chap above, I looked him up to give him some kudos on account of him appearing to have done some monster miles today alone, but I shan't bother now.
Confuses me as to what there is to gain from it?
https://www.strava.com/athletes/10520169
Not just one ride, neither. I could understand that if you'd borrowed a Garmin to try, or were trying to establish how accurate your phone's GPS is. But routinely doubling up your distance and elevation? It makes you look slightly silly.
It's no more than mildly irritating for me, as I know what I've done is good data presented only once, but it skews the 'leaderboards' and can bend some folk out of shape quite a bit. That chap above, I looked him up to give him some kudos on account of him appearing to have done some monster miles today alone, but I shan't bother now.
Confuses me as to what there is to gain from it?
yellowjack said:
Another icon for his "trophy cabinet" Flip me, has he joined every club on Strava?
I had this happen on my account recently when I plugged in my sons Edge 25, garminconnect auto synched every ride he'd done to my strava account, was a right ball ache going through and finding and deleting them. You'd think there'd be a simple to write algorithm that spots you cannot be riding to places at the same time
Edited by JustinF on Monday 23 May 20:30
Edited by JustinF on Monday 23 May 20:30
This happened to me inadvertently once. The MioShare site automatically started to upload my rides from my GPS and then send them to Strava without my knowledge as soon as it connected to the network, despite me only ever manually uploading them directly. Only found out when somebody brought it to my attention and I had to go back deleting a few months worth of duplicated rides and unconnect my Strava account from the Mio site. Think Mio changed the default settings or I missed the email warning me but I did feel a bit foolish, although my bar chart distance thing looked pretty cool 
CoolC said:
yellowjack said:
Another icon for his "trophy cabinet" Flip me, has he joined every club on Strava?
This 'activity' turned up on the 'Fly By' feature for my ride today...
http://www.strava.com/activities/585293876
...only two segments with an Av Sp lower than 30mph, and wall-to-wall KOMs. It was already flagged when I clicked on it though.
http://www.strava.com/activities/585293876
...only two segments with an Av Sp lower than 30mph, and wall-to-wall KOMs. It was already flagged when I clicked on it though.
I use phone app, for simplicity mainly. My richer-than-yow riding mates have 810s or whatever. I don't like the bar clutter, faff, beeping and that they're always losing rides and seem a right pain in the rear tbh.
I was always getting robbed on altitude, about 15%. This seems to have evened out more recently. Now I'm getting robbed of moving avg speed, again about 15%. There must be a difference in when it autopauses or something. I keep my phone in back pocket so I reckon even just walking round a bit on a stop keeps it ticking.
I was always getting robbed on altitude, about 15%. This seems to have evened out more recently. Now I'm getting robbed of moving avg speed, again about 15%. There must be a difference in when it autopauses or something. I keep my phone in back pocket so I reckon even just walking round a bit on a stop keeps it ticking.
richardxjr said:
I use phone app, for simplicity mainly. My richer-than-yow riding mates have 810s or whatever. I don't like the bar clutter, faff, beeping and that they're always losing rides and seem a right pain in the rear tbh.
I was always getting robbed on altitude, about 15%. This seems to have evened out more recently. Now I'm getting robbed of moving avg speed, again about 15%. There must be a difference in when it autopauses or something. I keep my phone in back pocket so I reckon even just walking round a bit on a stop keeps it ticking.
I so wish you hadn't said that, I'm in the process of pulling the trigger on a Garmin 520, pending pricematch and discount vouchers all lining up.I was always getting robbed on altitude, about 15%. This seems to have evened out more recently. Now I'm getting robbed of moving avg speed, again about 15%. There must be a difference in when it autopauses or something. I keep my phone in back pocket so I reckon even just walking round a bit on a stop keeps it ticking.
I've been doing perfectly well with my phone in my back pocket really, used a cheap <£5 aldi computer for a bit to get the time, speed and distance on the move without getting the phone out but the sensor mounted on the fork has died now. I am looking forward to seeing maps on screen and live speed, cadence, heart-rate etc. It's a big step for me because for 2 years up until a few weeks ago I was riding a £200 2nd hand bike and the thought of spending more on a speedo seemed perverse. I've been thinking about it for a long time though and trying to influence my wife's thinking on the subject so as to get sign-off on the spend. I actually like the control she imposes and wouldn't circumvent the prudency filter, it would be so easy to spend a fortune on the bikes. For us spendthiftery is something of a game I suppose though and we perceive it as a refreshing contrarian position amongst the legion borrowers of shiny lease-cars seemingly trying to impress each other.
I promise while I'm starting out with the Garmin and trying things out, I will try to be careful, detect and delete double postings on Strava (though yellowjack is very quick to spot new rides so there's little margin for error!).
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