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loudlashadjuster

5,130 posts

185 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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okgo said:
They won't sell the data for marketing purposes, I've asked.
Ahh, was that 'to send valuable offers from carefully selected partners' or anonymised aggregated data on the same basis as they provide under Metro?

okgo

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38,072 posts

199 months

Monday 11th July 2016
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loudlashadjuster said:
Ahh, was that 'to send valuable offers from carefully selected partners' or anonymised aggregated data on the same basis as they provide under Metro?
Latter.

Notorious100HP

301 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Does anyone know the answer to my question please;

A couple of local road segments have disappeared that were definitely there at some point previously. One of them could be down to my privacy setting as it's just at the end of my road, however the other one shouldn't be. I understand they might have been flagged and removed possibly? If this was the case, would I be able to re-add them as private segments? I only want to compete against myself, I'm not fast enough to bother with other people

Cheers

Stupeo

1,343 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Notorious100HP said:
Does anyone know the answer to my question please;

A couple of local road segments have disappeared that were definitely there at some point previously. One of them could be down to my privacy setting as it's just at the end of my road, however the other one shouldn't be. I understand they might have been flagged and removed possibly? If this was the case, would I be able to re-add them as private segments? I only want to compete against myself, I'm not fast enough to bother with other people

Cheers
I can't explain how they have gone missing, but you can re-create the segments through the website:

https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/21691...




Notorious100HP

301 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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Stupeo said:
I can't explain how they have gone missing, but you can re-create the segments through the website:

https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/21691...
Thanks

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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The person who first created a segment can delete it. Which might be what has happened.

Deletion of segments can often occur when the creator finally works out that no matter how many repeats of the same segment you create under different names on the same piece of road, Strava will retrospectively add riders who rode it before it was created. Some silly arses think that by creating a new segment it will make them KOM on it, albeit briefly. Richmond Park and Box Hill are examples of places with far too many individual segments, and which ought to be 'cleaned up' by Strava HQ so that things make more sense. Believe it or not, there are also folk out there who will delete a segment they created, simply out of spite if they lose "their" KOM on it.

Flagging doesn't completely disappear a segment, it just hides it until you sign a waiver, and prevents you from setting a goal on it, I think. Either way, if your favourite segment has definitely been deleted, just recreate it yourself.

But please? If you create a segment, try to make it start and finish at safe, logical points easily found in the 'real world'. Too many annoying segments start or end the wrong side of a roundabout, traffic lights, road crossings or even (local to me) the wrong side of an uncontrolled level crossing where a cycle path goes over a railway line...
yikes

Those sorts of segments get flagged regularly for safety reasons, and rightly so. I know it's the "responsibility of participants to ride safely and legally at all times", but no-one should be getting tempted to run red lights, or take silly risks on roundabouts or crossing railway lines simply to claim a hollow (digital) crown, FFS! It's supposed to be about who has the silkiest skills, and/or the strongest legs/lungs - not about who has the biggest balls/smallest brain, after all.

Some Gump

12,703 posts

187 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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So, it's TOB time again. On one hand this is good, because I get to see pros battle it out on my favourite hills. I expect to tumble down the order as a good few hundred keen riders tear up the places where I'm normally at least not last =)

The thing is, which muppets feel the need to add all these extra sections? TOB Stage 3 KOM1. You mean Wizard Hill? there's already Wizard Hill, Alderley Edge to Wizard Pub, Race you to the Wizard, Alderley Artists and Race to the Pub! - and that's ignoring the bonusly wky Wizard Hill (steepest bit), and Top of Wizard Hill which serve no purpose whatsoever (because if you've only done that part then you came up Swiss Hill, which has matching segments anyway).

To add this segment, you'd have to look and ignore the 4 identical segments, which end at the KOM point by the pub (just before Artists lane), and think "hey, hy don't I make this new one that ends 50m before the KOM point on the tour map? That'll be really beneficial to everyone!

Then, do the exact same thing for KOM2 (the Brickworks), and the Cat and fiddle (the hill equivalent of Richmond Park's segment fest).

I swear Strava should get some system of cleaning this stuff up, or maybe add a "bellend of the hill" token to anyone making duplicate segments. The site is still awesome, but going out for a ride and having more than 50% of all segments hidden (so you can't see your own performance vs PB, which is what it's all about) is increasingly frustrating!

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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There's just been a 12 hour MTB race in my local woods. "Incomers" have been naming segments. God Damn It People! Every segment worth naming in these woods already has a name. Sometimes more than one. And they're all named when ridden in reverse too. And where the actual fk has "Farmer Palmer" gone? It meant something, and was one of the originals. Now when I ride it, it comes up as "Smash it!",which is utterly meaningless. You should be 'smashing' them all, FFS! As for "Clara's corner - Sleep well my beautiful daughter"? Fcensoredk right off. It's part of "Farmer Palmer", and always has been. No-one called Clara has EVER ridden it, nor has anyone called Clara ever died there. And no-one cares. I hate shrines, I hate unofficial memorials, and I hate soppiness. Even worse if it's been named after a damned dog. Stick to the segment names already in use, and quit trying to stamp your 'mark' on MY woods. I've been riding here since before some of you soppy feckers were born. rage

Dizeee

18,346 posts

207 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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What's bothering me with strava is the fact despite I have maximum privacy set it's not private at all.

I set my followers and privacy to max a year or so ago. However people I have never heard off abroad are able to go through my ride history and give kudos. I got 14 kudos for my last 14 rides this week from some bloke in Utrecht.

okgo

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38,072 posts

199 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Yes there are various ways around the private thing. Pretty poor from them.

Fluffsri

3,165 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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yellowjack said:
There's just been a 12 hour MTB race in my local woods. "Incomers" have been naming segments. God Damn It People! Every segment worth naming in these woods already has a name. Sometimes more than one. And they're all named when ridden in reverse too. And where the actual fk has "Farmer Palmer" gone? It meant something, and was one of the originals. Now when I ride it, it comes up as "Smash it!",which is utterly meaningless. You should be 'smashing' them all, FFS! As for "Clara's corner - Sleep well my beautiful daughter"? Fcensoredk right off. It's part of "Farmer Palmer", and always has been. No-one called Clara has EVER ridden it, nor has anyone called Clara ever died there. And no-one cares. I hate shrines, I hate unofficial memorials, and I hate soppiness. Even worse if it's been named after a damned dog. Stick to the segment names already in use, and quit trying to stamp your 'mark' on MY woods. I've been riding here since before some of you soppy feckers were born. rage
Brilliant!!!

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Fluffsri said:
Brilliant!!!
Sorry if that sounds like I meant it. Well, actually, I meant all of it. It was just meant to contain a little more humour than how it reads back this morning.

getmecoat

I just wouldn't dream of naming segments in a briefly-visited other part of the country, unless they weren't created at all but were crying out for a witty segment title. I certainly wouldn't be creating new segments on top of existing ones. Fair enough to create "Torq 2016 lap" for the race, but make sure it follows the route properly and forms a complete lap. There are a lot of segments round here that are not named after their original "pre-Strava" titles. So names like 'Fern Gulley' and 'Sunrise Copse' are how the older Gorrick chaps (who design the race lap) talk about features, whereas Strava users (like me) know those two as 'Low Point' and 'Farmer Palmer' respectively. Prior to Strava I rode alone or with one other person at any time, so those features never had names other than the OS map names (which are different again!!!!)

One of my favourite segments, outside of Strava, is called 'Sleeping Serpent' (by the Gorrick boys)
In Strava? It's half of 'Send It' (confusingly there's also a longer version of 'Send It' earlier in the lap)
It's also 'Torq Final singletrack' (new for this year's race rolleyes)
And the almost identical 'Gorrick Last Section' (it's original Strava name)

Don't get me wrong, it looks great on your feed if you really nail it - three trophies for the price of one. But I'd rather it just had one name because that would avoid confusion when you try to talk someone through a lap and describe turns as being before 'x' segment, or after 'y'.


Edit to add: Quit "straight lining" 'Corkscrew'! You know who you are. It's called Corkscrew for a reason. If you ride straight down the middle it looks more like a nail, and no, by cutting out the berms and turns around the outside of the trees, you are not bringing down the KOM time. You are cheating, plain and simple. NO MORE SHORTCUTS - RIDE THE TRAIL AS IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU. irked

Grump over. For now!

Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 1st September 12:43

Craikeybaby

10,417 posts

226 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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It is the same at Cannock, 4 or 5 Strava segments for each of the named/signed sections of trail - not to mention all of the other segments which have been hidden. Surely some of them could be binned/merged.

Fluffsri

3,165 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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yellowjack said:
Fluffsri said:
Brilliant!!!
Sorry if that sounds like I meant it. Well, actually, I meant all of it. It was just meant to contain a little more humour than how it reads back this morning.

getmecoat

I just wouldn't dream of naming segments in a briefly-visited other part of the country, unless they weren't created at all but were crying out for a witty segment title. I certainly wouldn't be creating new segments on top of existing ones. Fair enough to create "Torq 2016 lap" for the race, but make sure it follows the route properly and forms a complete lap. There are a lot of segments round here that are not named after their original "pre-Strava" titles. So names like 'Fern Gulley' and 'Sunrise Copse' are how the older Gorrick chaps (who design the race lap) talk about features, whereas Strava users (like me) know those two as 'Low Point' and 'Farmer Palmer' respectively. Prior to Strava I rode alone or with one other person at any time, so those features never had names other than the OS map names (which are different again!!!!)

One of my favourite segments, outside of Strava, is called 'Sleeping Serpent' (by the Gorrick boys)
In Strava? It's half of 'Send It' (confusingly there's also a longer version of 'Send It' earlier in the lap)
It's also 'Torq Final singletrack' (new for this year's race rolleyes)
And the almost identical 'Gorrick Last Section' (it's original Strava name)

Don't get me wrong, it looks great on your feed if you really nail it - three trophies for the price of one. But I'd rather it just had one name because that would avoid confusion when you try to talk someone through a lap and describe turns as being before 'x' segment, or after 'y'.


Edit to add: Quit "straight lining" 'Corkscrew'! You know who you are. It's called Corkscrew for a reason. If you ride straight down the middle it looks more like a nail, and no, by cutting out the berms and turns around the outside of the trees, you are not bringing down the KOM time. You are cheating, plain and simple. NO MORE SHORTCUTS - RIDE THE TRAIL AS IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU. irked

Grump over. For now!

Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 1st September 12:43
No mate, I saw the humour in it. Made me chuckle this morning and the follow up has raised a smile this afternoon. Im off to what I called the double drops which I actually think is now called the whoopdeedoos...tts!

jesusbuiltmycar

4,537 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Dizeee said:
What's bothering me with strava is the fact despite I have maximum privacy set it's not private at all.

I set my followers and privacy to max a year or so ago. However people I have never heard off abroad are able to go through my ride history and give kudos. I got 14 kudos for my last 14 rides this week from some bloke in Utrecht.
I have also been given random Kudos from a guy in Utrecht - Hi name wasn't Tom Hdz was it?

Craikeybaby

10,417 posts

226 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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I saw it mentioned in another thread, but this multiple ride mapper is fun to play with.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

206 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
I have also been given random Kudos from a guy in Utrecht - Hi name wasn't Tom Hdz was it?
And me, he liked about 10 of my rides...random!

Some Gump

12,703 posts

187 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Craikeybaby said:
I saw it mentioned in another thread, but this multiple ride mapper is fun to play with.
Some cool things appear when you hide the map background...

Dizeee

18,346 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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TwistingMyMelon said:
And me, he liked about 10 of my rides...random!
Yes same guy. Liked a whole load if rides in one go despite my profile supposedly being private

Fluffsri

3,165 posts

197 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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I carried out a search and nothing popped up. Has anyone seen this site? Lots of Strava add ons

http://www.scarletfire.co.uk/strava-sites/