The Wattage Thread

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okgo

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38,192 posts

199 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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JPJPJP said:
Spotted this on Dean Downing's twitter feed, thought it might interest a few here



https://twitter.com/TrainSharpDean/status/89641061...
He's a strong lad is Langworthy.

Not that aero though, but he is about 6,6.

Though his headunit is doing something a bit weird as its 406W on Strava.

Edited by okgo on Wednesday 16th August 09:54

murray

408 posts

284 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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I normally get a diference between Garmin np and Strava 'np'. Strava one is always lower. Can't believe the progress Matt has made as he hasn't really been cycling for that long.

BMWBen

4,899 posts

202 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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okgo said:
He's a strong lad is Langworthy.

Not that aero though, but he is about 6,6.

Though his headunit is doing something a bit weird as its 406W on Strava.

Edited by okgo on Wednesday 16th August 09:54
I've always had different numbers on strava from Garmin and Elemnt for NP. Not sure why, just assumed they were doing a slightly different calculation.

okgo

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Wednesday 16th August 2017
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That is his avg, the 426 number on the headunit, NP is below that out of shot. But strava has the the average as 406. I presume he might have the headunit set to exclude periods of 0 cadence or something like that which would give an inflated figure.

murray

408 posts

284 months

Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Just realised that, strange as you say.

BMWBen

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Wednesday 16th August 2017
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okgo said:
That is his avg, the 426 number on the headunit, NP is below that out of shot. But strava has the the average as 406. I presume he might have the headunit set to exclude periods of 0 cadence or something like that which would give an inflated figure.
Ah yes - fair point!

okgo

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Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Some people do that, never understood why myself, but meh.

Decent numbers, strangely, I did a TT with him earlier in the year, and did 406W to his 396W apparently. He was nearly 1 min slower! Aero and all that!

I did a longer ride on Sunday actually, 250w avg for a bit over 5 hours, it left a fair few aches and pains despite it never really feeling 'hard' just attrition on the legs I suppose. A very good way of burning through a LOT of calories, which I promptly ate back soon after.

murray

408 posts

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Wednesday 16th August 2017
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Is that purely down to being more aero and/or better pacing?

okgo

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Wednesday 16th August 2017
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murray said:
Is that purely down to being more aero and/or better pacing?
I would imagine mostly aero.

z4RRSchris

11,349 posts

180 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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it’s winter so i’m back indoors after work because it’s cold and i’m a wimp.

setting myself the challenge of getting to 4.5wkg over winter. currently 77kg and c305W. report back in 6 months. so 325W and 72kg would do it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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z4RRSchris said:
it’s winter so i’m back indoors after work because it’s cold and i’m a wimp.

setting myself the challenge of getting to 4.5wkg over winter. currently 77kg and c305W. report back in 6 months. so 325W and 72kg would do it.
nice goal to aim for

look forward to updates

okgo

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Wednesday 4th October 2017
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z4RRSchris said:
it’s winter so i’m back indoors after work because it’s cold and i’m a wimp.

setting myself the challenge of getting to 4.5wkg over winter. currently 77kg and c305W. report back in 6 months. so 325W and 72kg would do it.
You'll need to have some sort of base though, which is pretty much impossible to do indoors. Raising CTL is generally (within reason) the way to raise FTP with a mixture of riding. Most people who go indoor only lower their CTL and have too much intensity I would wager.

Winning 2/3 cat road races is requiring more like 5 w/kg down here these days!

E65Ross

35,125 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Okgo - what's your CTL, generally? There's obviously a point where too high a CTL just means you feel tired all the time. I had that last summer I was doing about 13-14 hours a week and CTL was always over 100, but I just felt tired. I improved my FTP but have reduced my CTL. I tend to be around 70-75 at the moment and that's having a very easy week every 4 weeks or so.

tuffer

8,850 posts

268 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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My Wife just did her second FTP test today, Average 220 and Max minute power 293 and Max peak 340. Power to Weight of 3.99 Watts per Kilo. She weighs 55.1kg.

She kills me on hills.

E65Ross

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213 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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tuffer said:
My Wife just did her second FTP test today, Average 220 and Max minute power 293 and Max peak 340. Power to Weight of 3.99 Watts per Kilo. She weighs 55.1kg.

She kills me on hills.
That's really good going for a woman (without wanting to sound sexist!). She weighs about the same as me (I'm about 55, maybe a shade under) and I had a peak minute of 280W, max peak 311W and a 20 min average of 254.

Reminds me....I really ought to do another FTP test soon just to see where I'm at, that was done back at the beginning of April! I don't think I've moved a great deal to be honest, if anything I may have dipped on the 20min front, although I suspect my anaerobic capacity is marginally better.

z4RRSchris

11,349 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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okgo said:
You'll need to have some sort of base though, which is pretty much impossible to do indoors. Raising CTL is generally (within reason) the way to raise FTP with a mixture of riding. Most people who go indoor only lower their CTL and have too much intensity I would wager.

Winning 2/3 cat road races is requiring more like 5 w/kg down here these days!
I will keep riding on the weekends, and will race the winter LVVP series. At the moment its still light enough for Regents in the mornings but when it gets cold and dark i cant be arsed with that. indoor sessions are 2 hours a time three days a week. total of 10-12 hours cycling a week.

the idea is to race crit 3's and 3/4's, try and get out of cat 3. 40 points or whatever.

love to try a road race but no idea where.

okgo

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Wednesday 4th October 2017
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E65Ross said:
Okgo - what's your CTL, generally? There's obviously a point where too high a CTL just means you feel tired all the time. I had that last summer I was doing about 13-14 hours a week and CTL was always over 100, but I just felt tired. I improved my FTP but have reduced my CTL. I tend to be around 70-75 at the moment and that's having a very easy week every 4 weeks or so.
You have to build to these things. You could easily get a point where that level didn't leave you always tired. I know a fair few riders with huge CTL's who can manage it as they have got the capacity to handle it, but it doesn't come quickly!

No idea on mine. When training, probably around 80-90.

I know a girl who wins a fair bit, 20 min power about 300W @55kg - handy. It took most of my effort to ride up hills at same pace.

Edited by okgo on Wednesday 4th October 11:11

E65Ross

35,125 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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I need to have a rethink....I'm beginning to struggle a little with the motivation to really work hard at the moment. I'm not especially tired and I've been able to put out (for me) decent numbers recently but the last few weeks I've been struggling with the motivation to reach my usual TSS for my hard sessions.

I'm going away on holiday next week in Devon, the bike will be coming with so hopefully that'll be nice....new scenery. I usually do anywhere between 550-700TSS for 3 weeks on the trot then 1 week doing about 250-300 before getting back to it. I haven't had more than 2 days off cycling this year I don't think, so maybe it's time I just did 2 or 3 full weeks of only doing 250TSS or so just to really unwind.

Hmmmm

okgo

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Wednesday 4th October 2017
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As per dizzzeeee, why train if you have nothing to train for. Even the most dedicated people will struggle with motivation if there is no goal.

E65Ross

35,125 posts

213 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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okgo said:
As per dizzzeeee, why train if you have nothing to train for. Even the most dedicated people will struggle with motivation if there is no goal.
A fair point, but I generally like working hard and seeing how good I can (or can't hehe ) get. Most of the races/TT's around here seem to be on days I work frown