The Wattage Thread

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okgo

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Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Which is why in a road race the only figure worth looking at is np. Even a hard race has a lot of non pedalling and drafting.

It's ok, I think on fresher legs I can do 350+ but find it hard to make my self suffer. Max hr is 197 and avg 184 for the hour so reckon I could have pushed a bit more.

Got a speed concept coming soon (trek tt bike) so will be able to have a good blast. Just not sure why I haven't managed to do more than 335 for a 10. In theory 355-375 should be possible but will work on that.

superkartracer

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Sunday 23rd September 2012
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okgo said:
Which is why in a road race the only figure worth looking at is np. Even a hard race has a lot of non pedalling and drafting.

It's ok, I think on fresher legs I can do 350+ but find it hard to make my self suffer. Max hr is 197 and avg 184 for the hour so reckon I could have pushed a bit more.

Got a speed concept coming soon (trek tt bike) so will be able to have a good blast. Just not sure why I haven't managed to do more than 335 for a 10. In theory 355-375 should be possible but will work on that.
Good stuff, in a race/training i can get power and NP to within 5 watts, thats over rolling/steel climbs etc.

okgo

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Sunday 23rd September 2012
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It's easy enough solo but with others it drifts apart.

superkartracer

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Sunday 23rd September 2012
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It's not easy it's very hard hehe

How do you keep the power on 100% though tight bends and steep downhills? it's very tricky to match the avg and NP solo or not, piss easy on drag strip tho..

Edited by superkartracer on Sunday 23 September 20:30

Rocksteadyeddie

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227 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Power meter bust?

superkartracer

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Sunday 23rd September 2012
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?

okgo

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Sunday 23rd September 2012
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superkartracer said:
It's not easy it's very hard hehe

How do you keep the power on 100% though tight bends and steep downhills? it's very tricky to match the avg and NP solo or not, piss easy on drag strip tho..

Edited by superkartracer on Sunday 23 September 20:30
Well you tend to do more uphill than on the flat. Makes up for it. Mine are usually within 10w too if solo.

The goals next year are sub 20 and 51 25 I think, ambitious, but I think for my weight in pretty aero and the power is there.

Won't be easy when trying to make 1st cat on the road, but they are not bad training for each other as long as you get in a few breaks like we did the other week.

And he's trying to be funny I think haha.

superkartracer

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Sunday 23rd September 2012
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my coach did a 19 off 320 watts, he's 6.5 and 85kg so can be done!

yes i thought so, what a tit lol, i was going to say which powermeter, i now have 3 powertaps and wattbike and SRM's i'm dropping the lot bar the taps to keep everything level.

Good luck with the TT's and see you at national level some time :-)

Rocksteadyeddie

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Monday 24th September 2012
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superkartracer said:
my coach did a 19 off 320 watts, he's 6.5 and 85kg so can be done!

yes i thought so, what a tit lol, i was going to say which powermeter, i now have 3 powertaps and wattbike and SRM's i'm dropping the lot bar the taps to keep everything level.

Good luck with the TT's and see you at national level some time :-)
I've ridden with him though wink

superkartracer

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Monday 24th September 2012
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Who Mr power? hehe

okgo

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Monday 24th September 2012
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superkartracer said:
Who Mr power? hehe
Eddie uses power too, just not on his racebike, but I like to have it for all events, especially TT's.

Really looking forward to riding a few more TT's next year. Also a big fan of the sporting ones! We do a sporting 14 in Feb or March around the hilly lanes of Surrey.


Rocksteadyeddie

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Monday 24th September 2012
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superkartracer said:
Who Mr power? hehe
hehe

okgo

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Sunday 28th October 2012
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Oddly set some new power pb's for 20 and 30 secs. Who says its the season to sit on your arse eh? ;-)

Have entered the dark realm of FTP increase for next season, I reckon if I am going to step up, then I need more power to play with, the Kurt is getting a solid workout!

VerbalKent

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207 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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Out of interest, what sort of figures do the pros put out over a TT/race?

okgo

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Sunday 28th October 2012
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Lots smile

Wiggins did 475w for a 10 mile tt not too long ago. Froome did 400w for an hour at the vuelta.

Fabian did 630 for 4 mins in a prologue.

He also averaged 280w for the duration of the paris roubaix nearly 7 hours of racing...And no doubt did a silly amount for the bit where he was solo.


Their numbers depress me.



Edited by okgo on Sunday 28th October 20:50

superkartracer

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Sunday 28th October 2012
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Well they are the best on the planet! hehe why depressed? if you can output 350 watts for an hour you'll be in the top 10 club riders in the UK...

Don't compare yourself to pro's and even more so the best Pro's on the planet.

What makes it even more stunning tho is they output that power in the TT position, i take it you've not do a test on a TT bike in the full tuck yet?

Edited by superkartracer on Sunday 28th October 21:02

VerbalKent

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207 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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Woah, seriously impressive stuff then. I can imagine you getting quite disheartened though when you've given everything and don't even get near a pros numbers.

Come to think of it, I wonder how much the top boys were churning out when on EPO/testosterone etc. Though that's probably another discussion on a different thread.

Get Karter

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201 months

Sunday 28th October 2012
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What sort of numbers do cyclists put out at peak of a sprint?

okgo

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Sunday 28th October 2012
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superkartracer said:
Well they are the best on the planet! hehe why depressed? if you can output 350 watts for an hour you'll be in the top 10 club riders in the UK...

Don't compare yourself to pro's and even more so the best Pro's on the planet.

What makes it even more stunning tho is they output that power in the TT position, i take it you've not do a test on a TT bike in the full tuck yet?

Edited by superkartracer on Sunday 28th October 21:02
My FTP is probably 350 now tbh.

I haven't on the tt bike, but my position on the road bike with clip Ons is very aggressive and I'm very aero for my size, as said on another thread I don't think the position hinders me too much.

My goal is 380 for a ten, I think that is doable.

Rocksteadyeddie

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Sunday 28th October 2012
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superkartracer said:
if you can output 350 watts for an hour you'll be in the top 10 club riders in the UK...
roflroflrofl