The Wattage Thread
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Ponk said:
Which is why part of me thinks it's too good to be true. 
The chaps said my power was good enough for a 3rd/2nd cat. I've no idea if that is true! I reckon it's my weight that's holding me back as even by using my pre Christmas weight I'm heavy for my height at 75/76kgs vs 168 cm.
I'll be able to compare once I have my P2M and work on knocking the weight off by the end of February. There's pretty much a reliability trial every two weeks between now and then which should help.
You'll easily be good enough for 2nd Cat with those numbers. You may not win but IME you'll be in the top five to ten regularly (3rd Cat) if you have half a sprint and are not a complete duffer when it comes to race craft The chaps said my power was good enough for a 3rd/2nd cat. I've no idea if that is true! I reckon it's my weight that's holding me back as even by using my pre Christmas weight I'm heavy for my height at 75/76kgs vs 168 cm.
I'll be able to compare once I have my P2M and work on knocking the weight off by the end of February. There's pretty much a reliability trial every two weeks between now and then which should help.
Ponk said:
Well, my illusions of grandeur have been shattered. Turns out I was right, the results were too good to be true!
Actual FTP was 270w (MAP 360w) which is much more like what I was expecting. I assume I won't be winning any 2/3s any time soon?
I think there are lots of variables, but you should still be able to compete in 2/3 races, but lots depends on whether you have a finish or not. Sadly I would say TT'ing away from the field on your own might be out for the time being, but there are many riders who can ride savvy then unleash their awesome short period power at the end for the points and prizes!Actual FTP was 270w (MAP 360w) which is much more like what I was expecting. I assume I won't be winning any 2/3s any time soon?
Ponk said:
Well, my illusions of grandeur have been shattered. Turns out I was right, the results were too good to be true!
Actual FTP was 270w (MAP 360w) which is much more like what I was expecting. I assume I won't be winning any 2/3s any time soon?
Depends on your sprint, I think you over-estimate how much FTP is worth in crits? It's more about how fast you can recover from anaerobic efforts and where you position yourself in the final third of a race. Everyone (most times) will just circulate looking at each other before the bell goes Actual FTP was 270w (MAP 360w) which is much more like what I was expecting. I assume I won't be winning any 2/3s any time soon?
A lot of that will come down to crit circuit too. I reckon I could get round a Dunsfold aerodrome 4th cat crit with under a 200w average for the hour. But Hog Hill would be tougher due to the corners and hill.
But don't give up hope, you can improve dramatically in not long so nearly anything is possible.
But don't give up hope, you can improve dramatically in not long so nearly anything is possible.
A lot of that will come down to crit circuit too. I reckon I could get round a Dunsfold aerodrome 4th cat crit with under a 200w average for the hour. But Hog Hill would be tougher due to the corners and hill.
But don't give up hope, you can improve dramatically in not long so nearly anything is possible.
But don't give up hope, you can improve dramatically in not long so nearly anything is possible.
Been doing quite a bit of threshold and vo2 interval training over the last couple of. I ths but if the cx training is anything to go by it doesn't seem to make much difference. Here's an example of crit race earlier in the year:-
http://app.strava.com/activities/149867365/overvie...
http://app.strava.com/activities/149867365/overvie...
yonex said:
Ponk said:
Well, my illusions of grandeur have been shattered. Turns out I was right, the results were too good to be true!
Actual FTP was 270w (MAP 360w) which is much more like what I was expecting. I assume I won't be winning any 2/3s any time soon?
Depends on your sprint, I think you over-estimate how much FTP is worth in crits? It's more about how fast you can recover from anaerobic efforts and where you position yourself in the final third of a race. Everyone (most times) will just circulate looking at each other before the bell goes Actual FTP was 270w (MAP 360w) which is much more like what I was expecting. I assume I won't be winning any 2/3s any time soon?
I'm conscious that FTP isn't everything, it was the corner, sprint, repeat that killed me too so I know I've got lots of intervals to do before the season proper kicks off.
it's just that I've got a few more now than I thought yesterday. LolAnd a rr example from year before, gave up on them after this:-
http://app.strava.com/activities/41078378/overview
FTP had been measured at 242 the week before, dropped early on again
http://app.strava.com/activities/41078378/overview
FTP had been measured at 242 the week before, dropped early on again
I suspect you'll do considerably better this year as your power to weight improves - hard efforts will take much less out of you, and you'll be able to accelerate a lot faster for the same effort.
When my FTP was 4 watts/kg I felt pretty fast, I've got a bit of work to do to get back to that though.
When my FTP was 4 watts/kg I felt pretty fast, I've got a bit of work to do to get back to that though.
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